Can you Spot the Trinity?

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If you are Oneness, you believe the Father becomes the Son. But then you have neither Father or Son. You cannot have one without the other.
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"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life...." -John 6:40
"For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body" -Colossians 2:9
 
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"For my Father's will is that everyone who looks to the Son and believes in him shall have eternal life...." -John 6:40
"For in Christ lives all the fullness of God in a human body" -Colossians 2:9
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But the fullness of God is the Trinity. Not a psycho who turns into one person and then another.
 
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But the fullness of God is the Trinity. Not a psycho who turns into one person and then another.
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"For in Christ lives all the fullness of God(triune) in a human body" -Colossians 2:9
 
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But God is one being, three distinct persons.
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God has only one mind and one will in regard to his Divinity, three distinct persons making three minds and three wills is not biblical at all, and so much the one Spirit(God) cannot be a three persons.
 
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God has only one mind and one will in regard to his Divinity, three distinct persons making three minds and three wills is not biblical at all, and so much the one Spirit(God) cannot be a three persons.
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So you have a psycho Jesus who splits from one person into another?
 
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So you have a psycho Jesus who splits from one person into another?
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"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh... "-1 Timothy 3:16
His humanity split from His Divinity(Father)
 
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"And without controversy great is the mystery of godliness: God was manifest in the flesh... "-1 Timothy 3:16
His humanity split from His Divinity(Father)
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You are way off from what scripture says. Not even close.
 
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You are way off from what scripture says. Not even close.
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As the scriptures say the Son does not know His second coming but only the Father, and further Jesus only followed the Father’s will, instead of his will.

Mark 14:36: And he said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
Luke 22:42: "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours(will) be done."

AS WHAT I HAVE TOLD, THERE IS ONLY ONE WILL OF GOD IN HIS DIVINITY.
 
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As the scriptures say the Son does not know His second coming but only the Father, and further Jesus only followed the Father’s will, instead of his will.

Mark 14:36: And he said, "Abba, Father, all things are possible for you. Remove this cup from me. Yet not what I will, but what you will."
Luke 22:42: "Father, if you are willing, take this cup from me; yet not my will, but yours(will) be done."
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This proves each is a distinct person with unique roles.
 
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This proves each is a distinct person with unique roles.
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Only distinct between God and human Son during actual Incarnation, but your Trinity teaches that the Father and Son are all deities in unity. How come they are in contradiction if they are both deity? The other one does not know but the other one knows.
 
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Only distinct between God and human Son during actual Incarnation, but your Trinity teaches that the Father and Son are all deities in unity. How come they are in contradiction if they are both deity? The other one does not know but the other one knows.
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You haven't studied so you cannot comprehend it. You also do not want to comprehend it or we wouldn't be having this conversation.
 
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Hi @just_truth !

Maybe it would be good if you laid out your view of the relationship between the father, Jesus, and the spirit.

I see you talk about humanity separating and becoming Jesus? Did God originally have a human nature, in your view?

Also I should say that I'm posting on a cell phone which has been acting strange lately. If I stop responding, it may just be that my phone has stopped!
 
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Dan_473 said:
Hi @just_truth !

Maybe it would be good if you laid out your view of the relationship between the father, Jesus, and the spirit.

I see you talk about humanity separating and becoming Jesus? Did God originally have a human nature, in your view?

Also I should say that I'm posting on a cell phone which has been acting strange lately. If I stop responding, it may just be that my phone has stopped!
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I think NO, God did not have originally have a human nature. Regarding about Jesus, for me, it is not proper to say that the human becoming Jesus, because Jesus is always since from eternity in terms of His divinity.
 
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just_truth said:
I think NO, God did not have originally have a human nature. Regarding about Jesus, for me, it is not proper to say that the human becoming Jesus, because Jesus is always since from eternity in terms of His divinity.
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What is your view of the relationship between the father, Jesus, and the spirit? I take it from your posts that you are not Trinitarian.
 
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What is your view of the relationship between the father, Jesus, and the spirit? I take it from your posts that you are not Trinitarian.
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In terms of relationship, God the Father has a relationship to His human Son, the human Son is the direct mediator to God for us,
The Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit in action who was once responsible for the conception of the Son by Mary.
Jesus is the name of God given to the Son.
 
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Dan_473 said:
What is your view of the relationship between the father, Jesus, and the spirit? I take it from your posts that you are not Trinitarian.
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In terms of relationship, God the Father has a relationship to His human Son, the human Son is the direct mediator to God for us,
The Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit in action who was once responsible for the conception of the Son by Mary.
Jesus is the name of God given to the Son, same as Father's divine substance fully given to the Son, in which the Spirit fully dwelt in Him.
 
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just_truth said:
In terms of relationship, God the Father has a relationship to His human Son, the human Son is the direct mediator to God for us,
The Holy Spirit is the Father's Spirit in action who was once responsible for the conception of the Son by Mary.
Jesus is the name of God given to the Son, same as Father's divine substance fully given to the Son, in which the Spirit fully dwelt in Him.
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Does that differ from the common view of the trinity, in your opinion?
 
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Dan_473 said:
Does that differ from the common view of the trinity, in your opinion?
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Yes, because their Trinity has common share the divinity from an identified deity, in which the three as distinct persons have their own sets of minds and different wills.
 
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Does that differ from the common view of the trinity, in your opinion?
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Yes, because their Trinity have common share the divinity from an identified deity, base on their illustration of Trinity in a triangle.
In which the three as distinct persons have their own sets of minds and different wills.
 
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