1 Peter 3:19-20 and 1 Peter 4:6 different interpretations.

[just_truth]

Bibles from different versions made a different translation of the specific one word in 1 Peter 3:19 just to harmonize on their respective interpretations. Here’s what is written in King James Version and let us first to quote the whole passage of 1 Peter 3:19 up to verse 20, it says "By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; (20) Which sometime were disobedient, when once the longsuffering of God waited in the days of Noah, while the ark was a preparing, wherein few, that is, eight souls were saved by water." Now, we will focus in verse 19 where the said word has a different translation.

"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;"-KJV

“After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits” -NIV


These are the different interpretations, according to some, they’re the souls of Old Testament believers, whom Jesus liberated from captivity and brought with him to heaven. The preaching of the Gospel(see 1 Peter 4:6), about his death and resurrection, is therefore good news to them, some interpreters have seen Jesus offering a postmortem opportunity for faith and repentance to these “spirits in prison.”

Others have taken these “spirits” to be condemned souls who rejected Noah millennia earlier. For such individuals, Jesus is confirming their condemnation by proclaiming his victory over them and all his enemies in his death and resurrection.

While some interpret that this happened in Noah’s day. Because Peter uses the nebulous language of “spirits,” it is possible that he could be thinking about Noah’s time, rather than hell. Advocates of this view ask why Peter would mention “the days of Noah”(v.20), if he was referring to hell.

 

[Benadam]

I think Jesus entered the state of existence that all human souls enter at death. Souls are drawn to Him and either love Him or hate Him depending on how they lived their life. That's when hell as we think of it formed. Populated by all those that would reject The Gospel since the beginning of history.

 

[just_truth]

REPOST OF THE TWO VERSES FROM DIFFERENT BIBLE VERSIONS =

"By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;"-KJV

“After being made alive, he went and made proclamation to the imprisoned spirits” -NIV

 

[p_rehbein]

Did a "search" of the Commentaries, and it is clear that they have differing interpretatons of these passages of Scripture.


1 Peter 3 Commentary - John Gill's Exposition on the Whole Bible

1 Peter 3:19 - in which also He... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary

1 Peter 4:6 - For the gospel has... - Verse-by-Verse Commentary

1 Peter 4:6 | Bible Exposition Commentary

 

[Nehemiah6]

These are the different interpretations, according to some, they’re the souls of Old Testament believers, whom Jesus liberated from captivity and brought with him to heaven. The preaching of the Gospel(see 1 Peter 4:6), about his death and resurrection, is therefore good news to them, some interpreters have seen Jesus offering a postmortem opportunity for faith and repentance to these “spirits in prison.”

Others have taken these “spirits” to be condemned souls who rejected Noah millennia earlier. For such individuals, Jesus is confirming their condemnation by proclaiming his victory over them and all his enemies in his death and resurrection.

We should keep in mind a couple of things in order to understand what these verses in 1 Peter are saying: (1) The Greek word kerux can mean either preach or proclaim, since preaching is in fact the proclamation of the Gospel, and (2) there are no second chances after death.

Christ was in Sheol/Hades (in the heart of the earth or the lower parts of the earth) for three days and three nights. Hades was the region reserved for the souls and spirits of both the righteous and unrighteous dead (divided by a great chasm). At the same time Tartarus was also in the heart of the earth, but reserved strictly for "the angels which kept not their first estate" (the angels which sinned with human women at the time of Noah).

So Christ would have made both proclamations of His victory on the cross ( to those who were saved) well as a promise of judgment to those who were unrighteous (including the angels which sinned). He would have visited both Hades and Tartarus during that time. He may even have told the OT saints that upon His resurrection He would take them out of Hades directly to Heaven (which He did).

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

It's not a different interpretation at all. Preached, made proclamation. Same thing.
Move along, nothing to see here.

 

[garee]

The Old testament saint had already believed the gospel they were in a hold cell Abraham bosom until the was revealed glory

It does mean he went a spoke to these saints who will not be awoken till the last day. They made the transfer dead asleep.

The phrase. . . that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: is the method he used to bring the gospel he did not literally go any where


For Christ also hath once suffered for sins, the just for the unjust, that he might bring us to God, being put to death in the flesh, but quickened by the Spirit: By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison; 1 Peter 3: 18-19

Which prison .Bondage to sin ? Did those in this prison have the Spirit of Christ . Can we preach those who literally are not here? Catholics say yes.

Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.1 Peter 1:11

 

[oldethennew]

the KJV just translates as it IS - (literal) translation -
the NIV is a (functional) translation, which basically means that the translators
tell us what THEY THINK it means...
spirits is used in (3) senses in the NT;
one=evil spirits -
two=angelic spirits -
three=1COR. 14:32. - And the Spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
the 'key word' is prison,
so the question is, 'which spirits are in prison or in bondage???'

 

[just_truth]

..... He may even have told the OT saints that upon His resurrection He would take them out of Hades directly to Heaven (which He did).

Nehemiah6 isn't there will be a general resurrection the last days for judgement of the Saints first?

 

[just_truth]

It's not a different interpretation at all. Preached, made proclamation. Same thing.
Move along, nothing to see here.

Lucy-Pevensie let us see if there is no such different interpretation. How do you understand the Gospel was ALSO being preached to those who are dead? See 1 Peter 4:6 and 1 Peter 3:19 KJV.

 

[just_truth]

the KJV just translates as it IS - (literal) translation -
the NIV is a (functional) translation, which basically means that the translators
tell us what THEY THINK it means...
spirits is used in (3) senses in the NT;
one=evil spirits -
two=angelic spirits -
three=1COR. 14:32. - And the Spirits of the prophets are subject to the prophets.
the 'key word' is prison,
so the question is, 'which spirits are in prison or in bondage???'

According to Nehemiah6 and I qoute "At the same time Tartarus was also in the heart of the earth, but reserved strictly for "the angels which kept not their first estate" (the angels which sinned with human women at the time of Noah.'

 

[jb]

I did a blog on this, you can find it Here

 

[just_truth]

The Old testament saint had already believed the gospel they were in a hold cell Abraham bosom until the was revealed glory

It does mean he went a spoke to these saints who will not be awoken till the last day. They made the transfer dead asleep.

Peter 1:11

Yes I agree there will be a general resurrection for the Saints in the last days, but why during the resurrection of Christ there were resurrected saints together with Him? See Matthew 27:52-53.

 

[just_truth]

I did a blog on this, you can find it Here

jb thanks for the link, I'll ake time to read this...

 

[just_truth]

SEE THIS LINK...
https://christianchat.com/blogs/pet...n-hades-1pet-3v18-20-4v6.169457/#post-4251010

 

[Blade]

I like reading other versions.. but in the end I go by what was ORG written in Hebrew and Greek.

 

[KJV1611]

Yes I agree there will be a general resurrection for the Saints in the last days, but why during the resurrection of Christ there were resurrected saints together with Him? See Matthew 27:52-53.

That was the first resurrection, they went to heaven with him.

 

[Nehemiah6]

Nehemiah6 isn't there will be a general resurrection the last days for judgement of the Saints first?

Not exactly. There is no judgment of the saints, so that resurrection is for the *unjust* (the unsaved)

Those OT saints who were in Sheol/Hades were not resurrected, but their souls and spirits were taken to Heaven to be in the New Jerusalem (Heb 12:22-24) and will come with Christ at the Resurrection/Rapture to received immortal glorified bodies (1 Thess 4 and 1 Cor 15).

 

[walknlight]

See 1 Peter 4:6 and 1 Peter 3:19 KJV.

1Pet 3:19 By which also he went and preached unto the spirits in prison;

G2784 κηρύσσω kerusso (kee-rïs'-sō) v.
1. to proclaim or announce; to herald (as a public crier).
2. (especially, of the gospel) to proclaim or announce divine truth.
[of uncertain affinity]
KJV: preacher(-er), proclaim, publish

1Pet 4:6 For for this cause was the gospel preached also to them that are dead, that they might be judged according to men in the flesh, but live according to God in the spirit.

G2097 εὐαγγελίζω euaggelizo (ev-an-ğe-liy'-zō) v.
1. to bring good news.
2. “evangelize.”
3. (especially) to proclaim the good news of redemption through Jesus (i.e. the gospel).
[from G2095 and G32]
KJV: declare, bring (declare, show) glad (good) tidings, preach (the gospel)

different types of preaching.....

Yeshua Hamashia was not preaching His Gospel in 1 Pet 3:19
Victory!!!!
God Bless!!!

 

[just_truth]

Not exactly. There is no judgment of the saints, so that resurrection is for the *unjust* (the unsaved)

Those OT saints who were in Sheol/Hades were not resurrected, but their souls and spirits were taken to Heaven to be in the New Jerusalem (Heb 12:22-24) and will come with Christ at the Resurrection/Rapture to received immortal glorified bodies (1 Thess 4 and 1 Cor 15).

1 Peter 4:17 speaks about the judgment begins at the house of God, this is not their judgment for condemnation but for their respective rewards for every saint.

You are saying that these OT saints were not resurrected?? Look at Matthew 27:52 it says "and the tombs broke open. The bodies of many holy people who had died were raised to life."