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Tell me, how long do you think it would take to travel to the edge of Space?
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How would I know when I got there ? I have a pretty good 360 degree view from the back deck and my rookie telescope, awesome ? lol , But honestly I'm just as or more impressed following a beetle in the grass on my hands and knees or watch my cat stalk at the edge of the woods .

How long do you say Bro ?
 
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How would I know when I got there ? I have a pretty good 360 degree view from the back deck and my rookie telescope, awesome ? lol , But honestly I'm just as or more impressed following a beetle in the grass on my hands and knees or watch my cat stalk at the edge of the woods .

How long do you say Bro ?
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I mean, do you think since the Universe is 6,000 years old according to some views. That you could travel to the edge of it if there was an edge in let's say 50 years or less?
 
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I mean, do you think since the Universe is 6,000 years old according to some views. That you could travel to the edge of it if there was an edge in let's say 50 years or less?
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Yes about 6000 yrs old , you have spiral arms still in order and how many super novas have been observed , I think that what they call them, not that it matters to me .. I'm pretty sure I'd have to pack a big lunch though lol
 
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Yes about 6000 yrs old , you have spiral arms still in order and how many super novas have been observed , I think that what they call them, not that it matters to me .. I'm pretty sure I'd have to pack a big lunch though lol
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Since no one, not even Science really understands how vast and big Space is, outside of them counting redlines (in theory), do you think travelling to edge of space is similar to orbiting around the Earth 2,000 times?

In your view, how big is Space?
 
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I mean, do you think since the Universe is 6,000 years old according to some views. That you could travel to the edge of it if there was an edge in let's say 50 years or less?
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Plus you have to take into account all the constellations are still dependable and right where God put them, our own moon descent rate away from earth .. And then the recent discoveries of soft T-Rex and other soft dino tissue .. Mary Swchitzer even photographed blood cells in blood vessels still elastic and intact, and the science industry still claims it is millions of years old ..
 
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Since no one, not even Science really understands how vast and big Space is, outside of them counting redlines (in theory), do you think travelling to edge of space is similar to orbiting around the Earth 2,000 times?

In your view, how big is Space?
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Big , Not bigger than your imagination big, but big , sorry I couldn't help myself
 
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Plus you have to take into account all the constellations are still dependable and right where God put them, our own moon descent rate away from earth .. And then the recent discoveries of soft T-Rex and other soft dino tissue .. Mary Swchitzer even photographed blood cells in blood vessels still elastic and intact, and the science industry still claims it is millions of years old ..
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Trust me, I am no fan of Carbon Dating, Uranium Dating, and other Dating Methods especially when they remove a test object from unstable conditions and date them later in a stable conditioned environment.
 
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Since no one, not even Science really understands how vast and big Space is, outside of them counting redlines (in theory), do you think travelling to edge of space is similar to orbiting around the Earth 2,000 times?

In your view, how big is Space?
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And I'm not convinced science has the answer but they do have the floor to do most all the speaking, like the MMGW folks
 
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Would it blow your mind, Brother, to learn the majority of those in the fields of the Sciences are fellow Believers in Christ Jesus like you and myself?
 
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Trust me, I am no fan of Carbon Dating, Uranium Dating, and other Dating Methods especially when they remove a test object from unstable conditions and date them later in a stable conditioned environment.
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Correct, they are all flawed yet do you need a carbon dating test to tell you eyes you're not seeing what you're seeing and on top of that against what God has said
 
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Would it blow your mind, Brother, to learn the majority of those in the fields of the Sciences are fellow Believers in Christ Jesus like you and myself?
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It blows my mind that you can even consider it and I was thinking you were pentecostal
 
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Obviously, we are not talking about Biologists who believe in the Tree of Life, per Darwin's Evolution/Natural Selection. But those Biologists who work with DNA, cell structures, genomes, inherited genetics, chromosomes, under the mic so to say, many confirm their Faith in God by what their job reveals.
 
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Correct, they are all flawed yet do you need a carbon dating test to tell you eyes you're not seeing what you're seeing and on top of that against what God has said
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It's somewhat accurate if they test on the spot like ancient fire damage. But you unearth bones, take them to a lab, put them in a sterile and air controlled environment, you might as well just make up any number you desire.
 
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It blows my mind that you can even consider it and I was thinking you were pentecostal
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I am on the lines of Pentecostal. But there was a survey done by Scientists themselves because they were conflicted by opposing views from their own peers. And when they asked every Scientists if they Believed in God or not, the majority of them said, YES! From there, they were asked if they pray, read their Bible, go to Church, etc. They answered, YES! When I learned that, I thought that was rather cool to know.
 
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My Pentecostal associations are Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ, Assemblies of God, United Pentecostal, Church of God Pentecostal, and Independent Pentecostal.
 
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But not too big that you could travel to the edge and back?
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I saw a NDE testimony from an Atheist Russian molecular scientist who was killed , in the morgue for three days and when they began to cut him he opened his eyes, he not only immediately got saved but he spoke of traveling in time being showed biblical events even witnessing dinosaurs .. He quit science and become a preacher .. True or not it was incredible but if true or a vision he traveled in time .. Also while he was dead in the morgue or supposed dead a friends child gad been born and he witnessed the childs arm being broken during delivery , they couldn't figure out why the child wouldn't stop crying then he told them the childs arm was broke days later and it was verified and fixed .. The point is if heavens remain or not after the end of time we'll have no more questions from any perspective ..
 
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My Grandfather was Presbyter of Assemblies of the Lord Jesus Christ and Independent. My Mother was raised in the United Pentecostal Church. My Father preached in all of the Pentecostal Organizations. My wife I met in the Assemblies of God Pentecostal. And I have many good friends from the Church of God Pentecostal. I have several cousins who are Pastors in all I have mentioned Pentecostal.
 
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I saw a NDE testimony from an Atheist Russian molecular scientist who was killed , in the morgue for three days and when they began to cut him he opened his eyes, he not only immediately got saved but he spoke of traveling in time being showed biblical events even witnessing dinosaurs .. He quit science and become a preacher .. True or not it was incredible but if true or a vision he traveled in time .. Also while he was dead in the morgue or supposed dead a friends child gad been born and he witnessed the childs arm being broken during delivery , they couldn't figure out why the child wouldn't stop crying then he told them the childs arm was broke days later and it was verified and fixed .. The point is if heavens remain or not after the end of time we'll have no more questions from any perspective ..
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AMEN Brother!

I am far from ever being the one to claim Science has the answers. But I do believe after reading the Word of God, that God was the ultimate Scientist. In the Book of Job, God spoke of being what we know today as an Astrophysicist and as an Engineer. We know God is the ultimate Doctor and Mathematician. These are areas where He wants Believers because He is the ultimate version of them all. And even though that Russian molecular scientist gave up on Science, it was Science who gave him God! There are people using Science to prove the existence of God for those who only listen to Scientists. The atheist thinks God is fake, but if a Scientists claims proof of God through Science, they start listening. So in a sense, it is a necessary platform.
 
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Obviously, we are not talking about Biologists who believe in the Tree of Life, per Darwin's Evolution/Natural Selection. But those Biologists who work with DNA, cell structures, genomes, inherited genetics, chromosomes, under the mic so to say, many confirm their Faith in God by what their job reveals.
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If you've never seen a video by Dr James Tour he dares any scientist to debate him on the possibility of life just evolving , the best I've ever seen .. And he also by using nano carbons has discovered how to reattach severed spinal cords and paralysis cured, also discovery to convert all waste plastic to nano carbon sheets . And he's a Jew on fire for Jesus .. Remarkable man You tube it ,it will be worth your while .. Mary Swchitzer claims she is a Christian but she values her job
 
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