A discussion of the nearness of the endtimes

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As long as you know that the gods are not one and the same, that's fine.
I know that many Muslims THINK they worship the same Lord God as we do. But we must know the difference.
I just don't like to see Christians being taken in by a deception as great as this one- that is being sold to the world on a grand scale.

You did post a lot drawing parallels to The Qur'an & The Bible, Semitic languages, blood relations & cultural similarities between people of Middle-Eastern origin. I have an interest in those subjects too.

If you love Muslims that's great. We know that The Lord loves them & wants to harvest from them.
Just remember that Islam is no path to truth.

I was only trying to draw the distinction between a false belief and an ethnic heritage.
It's a sin to bow in worship to the god- Allah.
It's not a sin to be Arab, Persian, Midianite, Moabite, Turkish or any other ethnic group God has made.
A person can cease to be a Muslim but will always retain their ethnic bloodline.

Agreed!

But I think since they believe Jesus is a Prophet, they believe they are following the Old Testament God of Ishmael via Abraham. I mean, in their minds they believe this. Whether it is false as we view it, I think it's how they see it.
 

Rondonmon

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But a asteroid is a rock and a star is hydrogen and helium mostly
The Greek word used is ASTER where the English get our word Asteroid from, no star is going to fall into our atmosphere, its either an Angel coming down to poison the waters or its an asteroid, and the first two trumps seem to point towards and astroid, but it comes in so hot, like a ball of fire, John could very well have described it via looking like a sun, seeing as asteroids that enter our atmosphere starts burning out and looks like a ball of fire. MY TAKE ON THIS:

I think the "mountain falling into the sea" is the Asteroid. But the EXPLOSION just after impact is going to be HUGE. In 2029 an Asteroid they are calling Apophis {named for an Egyptian Demon god} will be VERY, VERY CLOSE to us. It will be here on Friday the 13 !! Trump created the SPACE FORCE !! I wonder why?

Apophis
The closest known approach of Apophis comes on April 13, 2029, when the asteroid comes to within a distance of around 31,000 kilometres from Earth's surface. The distance, a hair's breadth in astronomical terms, is ten times closer than the moon, and even closer than some man-made satellites.

So, an Asteroid that is 370 Meters wide {about 400 yards} is going to come within 20,000 miles of the earth on April 13, 2029 {Friday the 13th}. With a THREE PERCENT Chance of hitting, and they are downplaying it !!

Read Rev. 8, the first Four Trumps IS this Asteroid. The First Trump sounds and the FIRE burns the grasses and tree, the first thing to reach earth is not the impact, it's the fire. The 2nd Trump is a Mountain slamming into the Sea {It will be closet to California and the Pacific Ocen} of course a 400 yard Rock/Asteroid is that Moutain, it will destroy a 1/3 off the Oceans, Sea Creatures, etc. etc. in other words the Americas will be devastated, and the Anti-Christ of Europe doesn't even have to worry about that area at all.

The 3rd Angel is a star {the Greek word is Aster, that is where w get the English word Asteroid from} and it poisons a 3rd of the Fresh Water. It's the same event, it's just showing the Water is poisoned also. Then, of course, the Fourth Angel is the Joel 2 Event, where the Sun and moon go dark. Of course, they do, the PLUME of debris on smoke will darken and blot the sunlight out, that is what killed off the Dinos 70 million years ago.

April of 2029 means the Rapture will be in the Fall of 2025.......Ye can KNOW THE SEAON, but not the day. {You have the Rapture followed by 3.5 years of peace or FAKE PEACE, then you have the Day of the Lord event that is God's Wrath. The Anti-Christ knows this is his time to strike because all the Americas will basically be wiped out or in chaos.

I think this is Joel's DAY OF THE LORD description, and the Rev. 8 described star {Asteroid}. Thus if this hits in 2029 like I think it will, and that is the MIDWAY POINT of the 70th week, we can, via intelligent calculation come up with a date that means we KNOW WHAT SUMMER it is like Jesus said in Matt. 24:32-35. All we who believe in the Pre trib Rapture have to do is count backwards from Fri. the 13 {April 13, 2029} 1260 days and we kinda have THE SEASON of the Rapture if the 2029 Event is the DOTL event !! So April 2029 - 3 years equals April 2026. Then we need to take off a half year, So that would put it in the Fall of 2025 !! Jesus told us we can KNOW THE SEASON, but not the day. I wonder if I could add that up EXACTLY to the 1260 days and if it would correspond with the Feast of Trumps. You know, the LAST TRUMP that ends the Harvest {Church Age} and signifies that the Feast of Atonement is nigh {Israel atones} followed by the Feast of Tabernacle {to Tabernacle means to dwell with God}. Jesus reigns from Jerusalem for 1000 years.
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ARTICLE on this Below:

After suggesting that we should nuke Mars to terraform it, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter yesterday to warn us all that “a big rock will hit Earth eventually and we currently have no defense.”

The ominous warning came in reply to podcast personality Joe Rogan, who shared an article by The Daily Express, a British tabloid newspaper, about asteroid Apophis, warning of an imminent “asteroid shock” — a sensationalist spin of a harmless cosmic event.

Apophis is a 370-meter in diameter near-Earth asteroid, first spotted in 2004, that could hit the Earth in 2029 — but only with a probability of well under three percent. It is nonetheless categorized as a “Potentially Hazardous Asteroid” by NASA and considered an unlikely but worrisome space hazard.

NASA had discussed the asteroid at this year’s 2019 Planetary Defense Conference back in April, noting that Apophis will “cruise harmlessly by Earth, about 19,000 miles (31,000 kilometers) above the surface,” according to a blog post by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL).

In fact, it’ll pass so close, that its gravity could affect Earth.
 

Lucy-Pevensie

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Agreed!

But I think since they believe Jesus is a Prophet, they believe they are following the Old Testament God of Ishmael via Abraham. I mean, in their minds they believe this. Whether it is false as we view it, I think it's how they see it.
It's how some of them see it yes. And some want out of Islam but face difficulties because it's dangerous to leave.
The Lord knows the hearts of people but for us his command is "Come out of her my people!" Not promote her misconceptions.

The combining of religions under the pretext of peace has crept into some parts of the church and it's dangerous.
Remember the Lord said to watch out that no one deceives us because "many will come IN MY NAME and deceive many" ?
(Math 24:5-6)

The Islamic prophet Isa (translated "Jesus" but the name is really the Arabic form of Esau). IS NOT JESUS in any manner, fashion or form.
It's no innocent placement of our saviour, Jesus into Islamic doctrine. It's a deliberate opposition to him.
He is the worst possible form prophet. A False Christ. One who denies the authority and sonship of the Biblical Jesus.
He comes in the name of Jesus to deceive many and lead them away from Jesus.


Verses below from the Qur'anic Arabic Corpus, ( lies, mistakes, half-truths and denial of The Son of God)

Surah (23) sūrat l-mu'minūn Translations in english.

Yusuf Ali: No son did Allah beget, nor is there any god along with Him: (if there were many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have lorded it over others! Glory to Allah! (He is free) from the (sort of) things they attribute to Him!

Mohsin Khan: No son (or offspring or children) did Allah beget, nor is there any ilah (god) along with Him; (if there had been many gods), behold, each god would have taken away what he had created, and some would have tried to overcome others! Glorified be Allah above all that they attribute to Him!


Surah (9) sūrat l-tawbah Translations in english

Sahih International: The Jews say, "Ezra is the son of Allah "; and the Christians say, "The Messiah is the son of Allah." That is their statement from their mouths; they imitate the saying of those who disbelieved [before them]. May Allah destroy them; how are they deluded?

Muhammad Sarwar: Some of the Jews have said that Ezra is the son of God and Christians have said the same of Jesus. This is only what they say and it is similar to what the unbelievers who lived before them had said. May God destroy them wherever they exist!
 

cv5

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The Greek word used is ASTER where the English get our word Asteroid from, no star is going to fall into our atmosphere, its either an Angel coming down to poison the waters or its an asteroid, and the first two trumps seem to point towards and astroid, but it comes in so hot, like a ball of fire, John could very well have described it via looking like a sun, seeing as asteroids that enter our atmosphere starts burning out and looks like a ball of fire. MY TAKE ON THIS:

I think the "mountain falling into the sea" is the Asteroid. But the EXPLOSION just after impact is going to be HUGE. In 2029 an Asteroid they are calling Apophis {named for an Egyptian Demon god} will be VERY, VERY CLOSE to us. It will be here on Friday the 13 !! Trump created the SPACE FORCE !! I wonder why?

Apophis
The closest known approach of Apophis comes on April 13, 2029, when the asteroid comes to within a distance of around 31,000 kilometres from Earth's surface. The distance, a hair's breadth in astronomical terms, is ten times closer than the moon, and even closer than some man-made satellites.

So, an Asteroid that is 370 Meters wide {about 400 yards} is going to come within 20,000 miles of the earth on April 13, 2029 {Friday the 13th}. With a THREE PERCENT Chance of hitting, and they are downplaying it !!

Read Rev. 8, the first Four Trumps IS this Asteroid. The First Trump sounds and the FIRE burns the grasses and tree, the first thing to reach earth is not the impact, it's the fire. The 2nd Trump is a Mountain slamming into the Sea {It will be closet to California and the Pacific Ocen} of course a 400 yard Rock/Asteroid is that Moutain, it will destroy a 1/3 off the Oceans, Sea Creatures, etc. etc. in other words the Americas will be devastated, and the Anti-Christ of Europe doesn't even have to worry about that area at all.

The 3rd Angel is a star {the Greek word is Aster, that is where w get the English word Asteroid from} and it poisons a 3rd of the Fresh Water. It's the same event, it's just showing the Water is poisoned also. Then, of course, the Fourth Angel is the Joel 2 Event, where the Sun and moon go dark. Of course, they do, the PLUME of debris on smoke will darken and blot the sunlight out, that is what killed off the Dinos 70 million years ago.

April of 2029 means the Rapture will be in the Fall of 2025.......Ye can KNOW THE SEAON, but not the day. {You have the Rapture followed by 3.5 years of peace or FAKE PEACE, then you have the Day of the Lord event that is God's Wrath. The Anti-Christ knows this is his time to strike because all the Americas will basically be wiped out or in chaos.

I think this is Joel's DAY OF THE LORD description, and the Rev. 8 described star {Asteroid}. Thus if this hits in 2029 like I think it will, and that is the MIDWAY POINT of the 70th week, we can, via intelligent calculation come up with a date that means we KNOW WHAT SUMMER it is like Jesus said in Matt. 24:32-35. All we who believe in the Pre trib Rapture have to do is count backwards from Fri. the 13 {April 13, 2029} 1260 days and we kinda have THE SEASON of the Rapture if the 2029 Event is the DOTL event !! So April 2029 - 3 years equals April 2026. Then we need to take off a half year, So that would put it in the Fall of 2025 !! Jesus told us we can KNOW THE SEASON, but not the day. I wonder if I could add that up EXACTLY to the 1260 days and if it would correspond with the Feast of Trumps. You know, the LAST TRUMP that ends the Harvest {Church Age} and signifies that the Feast of Atonement is nigh {Israel atones} followed by the Feast of Tabernacle {to Tabernacle means to dwell with God}. Jesus reigns from Jerusalem for 1000 years.
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ARTICLE on this Below:

After suggesting that we should nuke Mars to terraform it, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter yesterday to warn us all that “a big rock will hit Earth eventually and we currently have no defense.”

The ominous warning came in reply to podcast personality Joe Rogan, who shared an article by The Daily Express, a British tabloid newspaper, about asteroid Apophis, warning of an imminent “asteroid shock” — a sensationalist spin of a harmless cosmic event.

Apophis is a 370-meter in diameter near-Earth asteroid, first spotted in 2004, that could hit the Earth in 2029 — but only with a probability of well under three percent. It is nonetheless categorized as a “Potentially Hazardous Asteroid” by NASA and considered an unlikely but worrisome space hazard.

NASA had discussed the asteroid at this year’s 2019 Planetary Defense Conference back in April, noting that Apophis will “cruise harmlessly by Earth, about 19,000 miles (31,000 kilometers) above the surface,” according to a blog post by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL).

In fact, it’ll pass so close, that its gravity could affect Earth.
Indeed those peculiar entries in the book of Revelation almost certainly describe meteor strikes.
I believe there are two of them prophesied to occur.
 
The Greek word used is ASTER where the English get our word Asteroid from, no star is going to fall into our atmosphere, its either an Angel coming down to poison the waters or its an asteroid, and the first two trumps seem to point towards and astroid, but it comes in so hot, like a ball of fire, John could very well have described it via looking like a sun, seeing as asteroids that enter our atmosphere starts burning out and looks like a ball of fire. MY TAKE ON THIS:

I think the "mountain falling into the sea" is the Asteroid. But the EXPLOSION just after impact is going to be HUGE. In 2029 an Asteroid they are calling Apophis {named for an Egyptian Demon god} will be VERY, VERY CLOSE to us. It will be here on Friday the 13 !! Trump created the SPACE FORCE !! I wonder why?

Apophis
The closest known approach of Apophis comes on April 13, 2029, when the asteroid comes to within a distance of around 31,000 kilometres from Earth's surface. The distance, a hair's breadth in astronomical terms, is ten times closer than the moon, and even closer than some man-made satellites.

So, an Asteroid that is 370 Meters wide {about 400 yards} is going to come within 20,000 miles of the earth on April 13, 2029 {Friday the 13th}. With a THREE PERCENT Chance of hitting, and they are downplaying it !!

Read Rev. 8, the first Four Trumps IS this Asteroid. The First Trump sounds and the FIRE burns the grasses and tree, the first thing to reach earth is not the impact, it's the fire. The 2nd Trump is a Mountain slamming into the Sea {It will be closet to California and the Pacific Ocen} of course a 400 yard Rock/Asteroid is that Moutain, it will destroy a 1/3 off the Oceans, Sea Creatures, etc. etc. in other words the Americas will be devastated, and the Anti-Christ of Europe doesn't even have to worry about that area at all.

The 3rd Angel is a star {the Greek word is Aster, that is where w get the English word Asteroid from} and it poisons a 3rd of the Fresh Water. It's the same event, it's just showing the Water is poisoned also. Then, of course, the Fourth Angel is the Joel 2 Event, where the Sun and moon go dark. Of course, they do, the PLUME of debris on smoke will darken and blot the sunlight out, that is what killed off the Dinos 70 million years ago.

April of 2029 means the Rapture will be in the Fall of 2025.......Ye can KNOW THE SEAON, but not the day. {You have the Rapture followed by 3.5 years of peace or FAKE PEACE, then you have the Day of the Lord event that is God's Wrath. The Anti-Christ knows this is his time to strike because all the Americas will basically be wiped out or in chaos.

I think this is Joel's DAY OF THE LORD description, and the Rev. 8 described star {Asteroid}. Thus if this hits in 2029 like I think it will, and that is the MIDWAY POINT of the 70th week, we can, via intelligent calculation come up with a date that means we KNOW WHAT SUMMER it is like Jesus said in Matt. 24:32-35. All we who believe in the Pre trib Rapture have to do is count backwards from Fri. the 13 {April 13, 2029} 1260 days and we kinda have THE SEASON of the Rapture if the 2029 Event is the DOTL event !! So April 2029 - 3 years equals April 2026. Then we need to take off a half year, So that would put it in the Fall of 2025 !! Jesus told us we can KNOW THE SEASON, but not the day. I wonder if I could add that up EXACTLY to the 1260 days and if it would correspond with the Feast of Trumps. You know, the LAST TRUMP that ends the Harvest {Church Age} and signifies that the Feast of Atonement is nigh {Israel atones} followed by the Feast of Tabernacle {to Tabernacle means to dwell with God}. Jesus reigns from Jerusalem for 1000 years.
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ARTICLE on this Below:

After suggesting that we should nuke Mars to terraform it, SpaceX CEO Elon Musk took to Twitter yesterday to warn us all that “a big rock will hit Earth eventually and we currently have no defense.”

The ominous warning came in reply to podcast personality Joe Rogan, who shared an article by The Daily Express, a British tabloid newspaper, about asteroid Apophis, warning of an imminent “asteroid shock” — a sensationalist spin of a harmless cosmic event.

Apophis is a 370-meter in diameter near-Earth asteroid, first spotted in 2004, that could hit the Earth in 2029 — but only with a probability of well under three percent. It is nonetheless categorized as a “Potentially Hazardous Asteroid” by NASA and considered an unlikely but worrisome space hazard.

NASA had discussed the asteroid at this year’s 2019 Planetary Defense Conference back in April, noting that Apophis will “cruise harmlessly by Earth, about 19,000 miles (31,000 kilometers) above the surface,” according to a blog post by NASA’s Jet Propulsion Laboratory (JPL).

In fact, it’ll pass so close, that its gravity could affect Earth.
Whoa!
 

Rondonmon

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Indeed those peculiar entries in the book of Revelation almost certainly describe meteor strikes.
I believe there are two of them prophesied to occur.
Maybe, but one would suffice, seeing as its just 1/3 of the area, I imagine its just one, its designed to remedy the Americas as a nonentity in the Anti-Christs pursuit to Conquer the World.

Indeed, we know all the signs are upon us. God's Wrath is indeed nigh.
 

Prycejosh1987

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Not to stir the pot as most of you know how much that bothers me but as for the rapture tribulation and the end times in general how near do you really think it is? Granted I know there is mass diversity of the timing of the rapture and the book of revelkations unfolding but lets say for the topic of discussion that say the rapture was to be the first thing to happen since most of us already believe we have been in the end times since Jesus rose from the dead.
Sorry to follow the crowd, but i will say he could come at any time. It says he will come after the gospel reaches the whole world. We cannot determine what that will be exactly, and moreover when that (preaching over the world) will take place.
 

Blain

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Sorry to follow the crowd, but i will say he could come at any time. It says he will come after the gospel reaches the whole world. We cannot determine what that will be exactly, and moreover when that (preaching over the world) will take place.[/QUOTE
If the crowd follows Jesus then it is good to follow. I want to share with you this poem/vision God gave me I think he gave it to me specifically for those who are eager and waiting because trust me things are about to burst wide open with the readiness of the lamb,

The breath of living water and the serinity that calms and soothes... I ponder and soak in these things as it washes over my heart. To swim in these waters with him forever is my need, to wonder at the beauty of it's brilliance is my cry. And I hear a voice in my soul to pick up my pen once again and in a dream I have gone.

I stand in a place I know not and yet as if my soul has always known, familiar is this place but I cannot recall it. A lush garden of flowers more vibrant than I knew they could ever be, a dield of blades deep green and softer than silk on my feet. A river of honey glimmering in the light of the sun, a pond of water that shines with life and trees of abundance bearing such fruits I have never seen. My tongue waters and my eyes are stunned, to taste the fruits which these beautiful trees show in pride... and yet I hesitate for my soul knows to taste even on drop of their juices then to crave anything on earth would be no more.

And in in instant as a flash of lighting I am standing before the king, he beckons me to sit with him and be still.
As we sit together he pulls out fine looking oils, fragrances and spices and lavender, With a gentle hand he adorns me with each one with such care and love in his doing. I look into his gentle loving eyes and protest and he stops to listen and I speak. My Lord says I please do not for I am not worthy, it is you that must be delighted with such things by my hand your servant, For you are my beloved and cherished one and my betrothed to be.

The king stares for only a minute and laughs a hearty and playful laugh as if I said something that amused him, he sees my confused eyes and speaks. My child, my dear child why do you think I do this? Have you forgotten about the wedding of the lamb? He spoke this with such joy in his words and my heart races, my soul jumps higher than the moon inside me.

Come he says to me, let me show you and together hand in hand we walk. And then as it were before me a place of wonder, a wedding of the most brilliance and beauty achor of hundreds of thousands singing with such lovely songs. A table of magnitude adorned with such abundace of fine food and drinks, the angels as they bustle about with excitement praise the father for the groom has his bride at last.

The things of which I cannot speak are all before me for such wonders are not for mans eyes and they beauty is to much for the eyes. And I hear bells begin to ring and I look around to find the source of such a sound, for my ears have never heard a sound of such beauty which I could not describe with all the knowledge my tongue. They were as if his love and heart were a sound itself, the sound they rang pierced my heart and so so greatly that I lost my strength and fell upon my knees. My eyes were as an ocean from the beauty I have heard as each ring would vibrate all throughout my body I could feel every cell within me singing praise.

The king lifts me up in his arms as a small child and holds me dearly, the absolute warmth and love of his arms fills my entire core and he looks at me with such tender eyes and such deep love. I speak not for I can only stare as I gaze and am lost in his eyes a vast sea and ocean of his love am I lost in I sink gladly into the vast waters. I sink deeper and deeper and astonished at the deph and vastness of these waters that is his heart I eagerly swim deeper and deeper.

Finally I am again in his arms and the joy and excitement of the wedding fills the air, a sudden burst of readiness is all around and he speaks to me yet again still holding my small childlike form and speaks.
Now wake and be eager for the wedding is here, go and speak what you have seen for I have spoken this to you to be my voice to my children.

I protest yet again, But Lord I am afraid. For I know whosoever dares to even speak such things is hated and ridiculed. For I am not a prophet and I am unworthy to be so. Again my beloved speaks and says have I not told you do not fear for I am with you? You are as you are just as I am that I am, the wedding is soon to begin and such wonders as you have seen must be made known. For my bride eagerly await and are growing weary, so wake and pick up your pen and let my childrens heart hear the chimes of the wedding bells.
 

Blain

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Sorry to follow the crowd, but i will say he could come at any time. It says he will come after the gospel reaches the whole world. We cannot determine what that will be exactly, and moreover when that (preaching over the world) will take place.
If the crowd follows Jesus then it is good to follow. I want to share with you this poem/vision God gave me I think he gave it to me specifically for those who are eager and waiting because trust me things are about to burst wide open with the readiness of the lamb,

The breath of living water and the serinity that calms and soothes... I ponder and soak in these things as it washes over my heart. To swim in these waters with him forever is my need, to wonder at the beauty of it's brilliance is my cry. And I hear a voice in my soul to pick up my pen once again and in a dream I have gone.

I stand in a place I know not and yet as if my soul has always known, familiar is this place but I cannot recall it. A lush garden of flowers more vibrant than I knew they could ever be, a dield of blades deep green and softer than silk on my feet. A river of honey glimmering in the light of the sun, a pond of water that shines with life and trees of abundance bearing such fruits I have never seen. My tongue waters and my eyes are stunned, to taste the fruits which these beautiful trees show in pride... and yet I hesitate for my soul knows to taste even on drop of their juices then to crave anything on earth would be no more.

And in in instant as a flash of lighting I am standing before the king, he beckons me to sit with him and be still.
As we sit together he pulls out fine looking oils, fragrances and spices and lavender, With a gentle hand he adorns me with each one with such care and love in his doing. I look into his gentle loving eyes and protest and he stops to listen and I speak. My Lord says I please do not for I am not worthy, it is you that must be delighted with such things by my hand your servant, For you are my beloved and cherished one and my betrothed to be.

The king stares for only a minute and laughs a hearty and playful laugh as if I said something that amused him, he sees my confused eyes and speaks. My child, my dear child why do you think I do this? Have you forgotten about the wedding of the lamb? He spoke this with such joy in his words and my heart races, my soul jumps higher than the moon inside me.

Come he says to me, let me show you and together hand in hand we walk. And then as it were before me a place of wonder, a wedding of the most brilliance and beauty achor of hundreds of thousands singing with such lovely songs. A table of magnitude adorned with such abundace of fine food and drinks, the angels as they bustle about with excitement praise the father for the groom has his bride at last.

The things of which I cannot speak are all before me for such wonders are not for mans eyes and they beauty is to much for the eyes. And I hear bells begin to ring and I look around to find the source of such a sound, for my ears have never heard a sound of such beauty which I could not describe with all the knowledge my tongue. They were as if his love and heart were a sound itself, the sound they rang pierced my heart and so so greatly that I lost my strength and fell upon my knees. My eyes were as an ocean from the beauty I have heard as each ring would vibrate all throughout my body I could feel every cell within me singing praise.

The king lifts me up in his arms as a small child and holds me dearly, the absolute warmth and love of his arms fills my entire core and he looks at me with such tender eyes and such deep love. I speak not for I can only stare as I gaze and am lost in his eyes a vast sea and ocean of his love am I lost in I sink gladly into the vast waters. I sink deeper and deeper and astonished at the deph and vastness of these waters that is his heart I eagerly swim deeper and deeper.

Finally I am again in his arms and the joy and excitement of the wedding fills the air, a sudden burst of readiness is all around and he speaks to me yet again still holding my small childlike form and speaks.
Now wake and be eager for the wedding is here, go and speak what you have seen for I have spoken this to you to be my voice to my children.

I protest yet again, But Lord I am afraid. For I know whosoever dares to even speak such things is hated and ridiculed. For I am not a prophet and I am unworthy to be so. Again my beloved speaks and says have I not told you do not fear for I am with you? You are as you are just as I am that I am, the wedding is soon to begin and such wonders as you have seen must be made known. For my bride eagerly await and are growing weary, so wake and pick up your pen and let my childrens heart hear the chimes of the wedding bells.
Sorry to follow the crowd, but i will say he could come at any time. It says he will come after the gospel reaches the whole world. We cannot determine what that will be exactly, and moreover when that (preaching over the world) will take place.
If the crowd follows Jesus then it is good to follow. I want to share with you this poem/vision God gave me I think he gave it to me specifically for those who are eager and waiting because trust me things are about to burst wide open with the readiness of the lamb,

The breath of living water and the serinity that calms and soothes... I ponder and soak in these things as it washes over my heart. To swim in these waters with him forever is my need, to wonder at the beauty of it's brilliance is my cry. And I hear a voice in my soul to pick up my pen once again and in a dream I have gone.

I stand in a place I know not and yet as if my soul has always known, familiar is this place but I cannot recall it. A lush garden of flowers more vibrant than I knew they could ever be, a dield of blades deep green and softer than silk on my feet. A river of honey glimmering in the light of the sun, a pond of water that shines with life and trees of abundance bearing such fruits I have never seen. My tongue waters and my eyes are stunned, to taste the fruits which these beautiful trees show in pride... and yet I hesitate for my soul knows to taste even on drop of their juices then to crave anything on earth would be no more.

And in in instant as a flash of lighting I am standing before the king, he beckons me to sit with him and be still.
As we sit together he pulls out fine looking oils, fragrances and spices and lavender, With a gentle hand he adorns me with each one with such care and love in his doing. I look into his gentle loving eyes and protest and he stops to listen and I speak. My Lord says I please do not for I am not worthy, it is you that must be delighted with such things by my hand your servant, For you are my beloved and cherished one and my betrothed to be.

The king stares for only a minute and laughs a hearty and playful laugh as if I said something that amused him, he sees my confused eyes and speaks. My child, my dear child why do you think I do this? Have you forgotten about the wedding of the lamb? He spoke this with such joy in his words and my heart races, my soul jumps higher than the moon inside me.

Come he says to me, let me show you and together hand in hand we walk. And then as it were before me a place of wonder, a wedding of the most brilliance and beauty achor of hundreds of thousands singing with such lovely songs. A table of magnitude adorned with such abundace of fine food and drinks, the angels as they bustle about with excitement praise the father for the groom has his bride at last.

The things of which I cannot speak are all before me for such wonders are not for mans eyes and they beauty is to much for the eyes. And I hear bells begin to ring and I look around to find the source of such a sound, for my ears have never heard a sound of such beauty which I could not describe with all the knowledge my tongue. They were as if his love and heart were a sound itself, the sound they rang pierced my heart and so so greatly that I lost my strength and fell upon my knees. My eyes were as an ocean from the beauty I have heard as each ring would vibrate all throughout my body I could feel every cell within me singing praise.

The king lifts me up in his arms as a small child and holds me dearly, the absolute warmth and love of his arms fills my entire core and he looks at me with such tender eyes and such deep love. I speak not for I can only stare as I gaze and am lost in his eyes a vast sea and ocean of his love am I lost in I sink gladly into the vast waters. I sink deeper and deeper and astonished at the deph and vastness of these waters that is his heart I eagerly swim deeper and deeper.

Finally I am again in his arms and the joy and excitement of the wedding fills the air, a sudden burst of readiness is all around and he speaks to me yet again still holding my small childlike form and speaks.
Now wake and be eager for the wedding is here, go and speak what you have seen for I have spoken this to you to be my voice to my children.

I protest yet again, But Lord I am afraid. For I know whosoever dares to even speak such things is hated and ridiculed. For I am not a prophet and I am unworthy to be so. Again my beloved speaks and says have I not told you do not fear for I am with you? You are as you are just as I am that I am, the wedding is soon to begin and such wonders as you have seen must be made known. For my bride eagerly await and are growing weary, so wake and pick up your pen and let my childrens heart hear the chimes of the wedding bells.
 

Ahwatukee

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Not to stir the pot as most of you know how much that bothers me but as for the rapture tribulation and the end times in general how near do you really think it is? Granted I know there is mass diversity of the timing of the rapture and the book of revelations unfolding but lets say for the topic of discussion that say the rapture was to be the first thing to happen since most of us already believe we have been in the end times since Jesus rose from the dead.

How close do you think it could actually be? what signs might point to this and what scripture and evidence could possibly prove this?
The answer to your question is what I have been claiming all along. The fact that we have people now being inserted with RFID chips which is being used to makes purchases, demonstrates that the technology for that coming mark is here. And since it is here, it should be a sign to believers as to how close the Lord is to gathering His church. For the mark of the beast will become mandatory during the time of God's wrath. And since we are not appointed to suffer God's wrath, then we must be gathered prior to said wrath. The opening of the first seal initiates God's wrath, therefore, we must be gathered prior to the first seal being opened.

And for everyone who doesn't believe in the pretrib rapture what do you think is next? how close might it be and what signs evidence and scriptures might help to prove this? The way the world is going I think it is wise to pay attention to the book of revelations more than ever and while I pray this doesn't turn into a blood shed debate I hope we can discuss things and look at different points of views together learn and grow and maybe even be more aware of these times than before.
Those who know and believe that the Lord will keep His promise to gather His church prior to His wrath, are looking for His imminent return. Those who believe that the Lord is going to gather His church after His wrath, are looking for God's wrath first and are thereby putting the church through the same wrath that the wicked will be going through.

People have not understood the severity of God's coming wrath, in that Jesus returns to the earth to end the age, the majority of the earths population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.
 

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Matthew 7-19, Luke 3-9, Matthew 3-10, John 15-2, all explain our future should we not be producing fruit for the kingdom, that is our first priority. I have spent too much time looking into and discussing when, how and where when I should have kept first things first.
If I am not giving His direction first place with every thought, word and deed, it will be too soon for me.
blessings
 

Blain

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The answer to your question is what I have been claiming all along. The fact that we have people now being inserted with RFID chips which is being used to makes purchases, demonstrates that the technology for that coming mark is here. And since it is here, it should be a sign to believers as to how close the Lord is to gathering His church. For the mark of the beast will become mandatory during the time of God's wrath. And since we are not appointed to suffer God's wrath, then we must be gathered prior to said wrath. The opening of the first seal initiates God's wrath, therefore, we must be gathered prior to the first seal being opened.



Those who know and believe that the Lord will keep His promise to gather His church prior to His wrath, are looking for His imminent return. Those who believe that the Lord is going to gather His church after His wrath, are looking for God's wrath first and are thereby putting the church through the same wrath that the wicked will be going through.

People have not understood the severity of God's coming wrath, in that Jesus returns to the earth to end the age, the majority of the earths population will have been decimated and all human government dismantled.
Yes you were and are absolutely right I just was not able to see it at the time. December 30th I was in the car with my firends when I had a heavy sense of an imminent warning it was unlike anything I ever felt the thickness of it was unreal it was like a heavy warning but at the same time relief as if danger and a dark heavy cloud was coming but strangely I was not afraid I was actually experiencing a sense of relief.

I had no idea about the virus at that time and then the virus came and soon after I experienced a spiritual awakening or stirring something I have never experienced before God gave me more than just an abundance of visions and prophetic words of his return there was something new inside me I sensed an anointing coming I sensed his coming for his bride with such great excitement in his heart this entire year he has been doing this like this especially in my poems.

I no longer doubt and can see it clearly he is coming and we can finally rest.
 

Blain

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Matthew 7-19, Luke 3-9, Matthew 3-10, John 15-2, all explain our future should we not be producing fruit for the kingdom, that is our first priority. I have spent too much time looking into and discussing when, how and where when I should have kept first things first.
If I am not giving His direction first place with every thought, word and deed, it will be too soon for me.
blessings
My friend you know as well as I that he is speaking to his children of what is soon to come. keep your hearts eyes looking while in moferation we can be both excited and joyful while doing his work
 

Ahwatukee

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Matthew 7-19, Luke 3-9, Matthew 3-10, John 15-2, all explain our future should we not be producing fruit for the kingdom, that is our first priority. I have spent too much time looking into and discussing when, how and where when I should have kept first things first.
If I am not giving His direction first place with every thought, word and deed, it will be too soon for me.
blessings
Producing fruit is achieved by continuing from faith to faith. When we do this, we are being transformed into the image of Christ. The fruit of the Spirit is our taking on the nature of God as we continue in faith. This is the work of the Holy Spirit who sanctifies us, i.e. the process of being made holy.

"But the fruit of the Spirit is love, joy, peace, patience, kindness, goodness, faithfulness, gentleness and self-control."