Heb 6:8 But that which beareth thorns and briers is rejected, and is nigh unto cursing; whose end is to be burned.
I guess you assume that "whose end is to be burned" means they are going to hell?
Don't you think that happens to other people outside the Hebrew race? I've known Christians who were on fire for God and they fell away, it's a dangerous thing. God lets you go so far and then he's done with you. The same thing happened to Solomon, do you think Solomon's in hell?4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Don't you think that happens to other people outside the Hebrew race? I've known Christians who were on fire for God and they fell away, it's a dangerous thing. God lets you go so far and then he's done with you. The same thing happened to Solomon, do you think Solomon's in hell?
Do you not recall the prodigal son parable? The fire may brun out but remember it only takes a spark to make the fire burn and it is my firm belief that nothing is impossible with God.These are people who were saved, sinned, fell away and have no more forgiveness of sins. It’s impossible for them to repent.
Not repenting of sin is not losing your salvation.These are people who were saved, sinned, fell away and have no more forgiveness of sins. It’s impossible for them to repent.
I wouldn't say he lets you go so far and then is done with you, the fire starts when we are saved but many forget that going on that fire and passion can be good and can be intense but if you don't fan that flame it will burn out.Don't you think that happens to other people outside the Hebrew race? I've known Christians who were on fire for God and they fell away, it's a dangerous thing. God lets you go so far and then he's done with you. The same thing happened to Solomon, do you think Solomon's in hell?
Do you not recall the prodigal son parable? The fire may brun out but remember it only takes a spark to make the fire burn and it is my firm belief that nothing is impossible with God.
Where does it state this?Well, Scripture states it is impossible to renew them again to repentance.
Not repenting of sin is not losing your salvation.
Where does it state this?
Because repentance comes from God and they have made themselves far from God.Why is it impossible for them to repent again? As part of the body of Christ, can we not repent every time we sin?
Yes but you also have to take into account what the bible says elsewhere as well such as the parable of the farmerHebrews 6
4 For it is impossible for those who were once enlightened, and have tasted of the heavenly gift, and were made partakers of the Holy Ghost,
5 And have tasted the good word of God, and the powers of the world to come,
6 If they shall fall away, to renew them again unto repentance; seeing they crucify to themselves the Son of God afresh, and put him to an open shame.
Acts 2:17Lol, last days = 2,000 years? How do you figure?
Acts 2:17
Hebrews 1:2
The apostles called their own time the "last days"...
I believe the thread title question is moot. Why? Well, because you cannot simply use Revelation 14:9 to answer the question. All relevant scripture must be considered.
I believe "the mark alone" is highly improbable at best.
If you are going to play games with the word 'and' - does that mean that - in Revelation 13:16 - those who were killed (verse 15) also received the mark?
My friend (@KJV1611) - you are not properly understanding the 'grammar of the language' - which does not allow for "the mark alone"...
Maybe you missed this but I was hoping you could give an answer to this.What makes ”and” different in those verses?
Acts 2:17
Hebrews 1:2
The apostles called their own time the "last days"...
I don't understand where you're getting "It could have been the last days ushered in if the Jews would have received the preaching about Christ, their Messiah."This is actually prophecy concerning the last days. It proves my point. It could have the last days ushered in if the Jews would have received the preaching about Christ, their Messiah. But they didn’t, so the last days are yet to be....after the fullness of the Gentiles are come in.
Acts 2
16 But this is that which was spoken by the prophet Joel;
17 And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy, and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams:
Where is that found in the bible?
I don't understand where you're getting "It could have been the last days ushered in if the Jews would have received the preaching about Christ, their Messiah."
Where is that found in the bible?