Catholicism vs Protestantism

  • Christian Chat is a moderated online Christian community allowing Christians around the world to fellowship with each other in real time chat via webcam, voice, and text, with the Christian Chat app. You can also start or participate in a Bible-based discussion here in the Christian Chat Forums, where members can also share with each other their own videos, pictures, or favorite Christian music.

    If you are a Christian and need encouragement and fellowship, we're here for you! If you are not a Christian but interested in knowing more about Jesus our Lord, you're also welcome! Want to know what the Bible says, and how you can apply it to your life? Join us!

    To make new Christian friends now around the world, click here to join Christian Chat.

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
Do catholic say muslim worship wrong God?
Do catholic know muslim worship quran God?
As I understand it, Catholics say that Muslims and Christians worship the same God, so that would be the correct God.

Muslims believe that they worship the Quran god. But Catholics say that Muslims worship the Christian God.
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
I believe the translator not deliberately did It, but catholic did
What do you mean that the translator didn't do it deliberately? Do you believe it is a typographical error?
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
841 The Church's relationship with the Muslims. "The plan of salvation also includes those who acknowledge the Creator, in the first place amongst whom are the Muslims; these profess to hold the faith of Abraham, and together with us they adore the one, merciful God, mankind's judge on the last day."

From your link

8 At one time you didn’t know God. You were slaves to gods that are really not gods at all. 9 But now you know God. Even better, God knows you. So why are you turning back to those weak and worthless powers? Do you want to be slaves to them all over again?

Verse 8 you don't know God with capital G mean true God

" you were Slave to god lower case g mean false God

Nothing wrong with this translation
Yes, the translator uses capitalization correctly in Galatians 4:8,9.

In Romans 10,

Brothers and sisters, with all my heart I long for the people of Israel to be saved. I pray to God for them. 2 I can tell you for certain that they really want to serve God. But how they are trying to do it is not based on knowledge. 3 They didn’t know that God’s power makes people right with himself. They tried to get right with God in their own way. They didn’t do it in God’s way. 4 Christ has fulfilled everything the law was meant to do. So now everyone who believes can be right with God.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NIRV

How does it look to you? Does the translator use capitalization correctly throughout the passage?
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
What do you mean that the translator didn't do it deliberately? Do you believe it is a typographical error?
If they do It deliberately than Yes they attacking true God, equalized God to lucifer
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
Yes, the translator uses capitalization correctly in Galatians 4:8,9.

In Romans 10,

Brothers and sisters, with all my heart I long for the people of Israel to be saved. I pray to God for them. 2 I can tell you for certain that they really want to serve God. But how they are trying to do it is not based on knowledge. 3 They didn’t know that God’s power makes people right with himself. They tried to get right with God in their own way. They didn’t do it in God’s way. 4 Christ has fulfilled everything the law was meant to do. So now everyone who believes can be right with God.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NIRV

How does it look to you? Does the translator use capitalization correctly throughout the passage?
they want to,serve true God
They think they serve true God
But is not

Nothing wrong with this verse because It express they what they want. And Paul explain that is not the Case, No true God reject Jesus as a God
Like muslim, they think quran God is true God but is not.
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
1.I want to buy new car

2. I bough new car

1 is not 2

1. I want to serve God

2. I serve God

Want to serve God not necessary mean serve God
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
If they do It deliberately than Yes they attacking true God, equalized God to lucifer
Yes, that would be attacking the true God.
The NIV is one of the most popular Bibles in the English-speaking world.

Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NIV

But it looks like they are also attacking the true God and the foundation of Christianity, since they also capitalize "God" throughout that section.
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
they want to,serve true God
They think they serve true God
But is not

Nothing wrong with this verse because It express they what they want. And Paul explain that is not the Case, No true God reject Jesus as a God
Like muslim, they think quran God is true God but is not.
How does someone want to serve the true God and reject Jesus at the same time? How does that work in your mind?

Isn't rejecting Jesus rejecting the true God?
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
1.I want to buy new car

2. I bough new car

1 is not 2

1. I want to serve God

2. I serve God

Want to serve God not necessary mean serve God
I see.

Do you agree, then, that Jews really want to serve the true God? Do you agree that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge?

If I remember right, in the past you said something different. It's perfectly fine to change your mind! I'm just asking if that is what has happened.
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
Yes, that would be attacking the true God.
The NIV is one of the most popular Bibles in the English-speaking world.

Brothers and sisters, my heart’s desire and prayer to God for the Israelites is that they may be saved. 2 For I can testify about them that they are zealous for God, but their zeal is not based on knowledge. 3 Since they did not know the righteousness of God and sought to establish their own, they did not submit to God’s righteousness.

https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Romans+10&version=NIV

But it looks like they are also attacking the true God and the foundation of Christianity, since they also ocapitalize "God" throughout that section.
Yep, they do It in disguise so only Some aware
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
How does someone want to serve the true God and reject Jesus at the same time? How does that work in your mind?

Isn't rejecting Jesus rejecting the true God?
Yep It is imposible to server true God and reject Jesus, so Israel that reject jesus not worship true God, so does muslim
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
I see.

Do you agree, then, that Jews really want to serve the true God? Do you agree that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge?

If I remember right, in the past you said something different. It's perfectly fine to change your mind! I'm just asking if that is what has happened.
Jews want to serve true God and think to serve true God but jews not serves true God

I want to buy a new car but I am not buy a new car.

I may think buy a new car but It was used, my lack of knowledge make me think used car as a new car

Muslim think they worship true God but is not

Catholic say muslim worship true God but It is Lie

Muslim lack of knowledge
But catholic lie
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
Yep, they do It in disguise so only Some aware
I see.

And the King James version?
Is it also translated by someone who attacks the true God and the foundation of Christianity?

Romans 10: 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
 

Dan_473

Senior Member
Mar 11, 2014
9,054
1,051
113
Yep It is imposible to server true God and reject Jesus, so Israel that reject jesus not worship true God, so does muslim
Is it possible to want to serve the true God and reject Jesus at the same time?
 

tourist

Senior Member
Mar 13, 2014
42,550
17,022
113
69
Tennessee
1.I want to buy new car

2. I bough new car

1 is not 2

1. I want to serve God

2. I serve God

Want to serve God not necessary mean serve God
Wanting to serve God and actually serving God are two different things altogether. Same thing with the car. I'll take door #2 'cause "I got a ticket to ride..."
 

Jackson123

Senior Member
Feb 6, 2014
11,769
1,371
113
I see.

And the King James version?
Is it also translated by someone who attacks the true God and the foundation of Christianity?

Romans 10: 1 Brethren, my heart's desire and prayer to God for Israel is, that they might be saved. 2 For I bear them record that they have a zeal of God, but not according to knowledge. 3 For they being ignorant of God's righteousness, and going about to establish their own righteousness, have not submitted themselves unto the righteousness of God.
In my opinion King James version not attacking christianity.
They think they seal for God but It is not, because God is Jesus, reject Jesus mean reject God

It is totaly different with ccc 841

Ccc 841 deliberately Lie
Muslim not adore mankind's judge oN the last day
That judge is Jesus as a God.

ccc 841 Lie and say muslim adore Jesus as a God.