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Put this all in context....you do not fool anyone with your dishonest tactics.

The believing in vain would happen IF Jesus had not risen from the dead.
And Paul announces very firmly Christ did rise from the dead.

1 Corinthians 15:20
"But now Christ is risen from the dead.”


More IRONY 1 John 2:24-25 was written by John about DECEIVERS

“These things [2:18-25]30 I have written to you concerning those who are trying to deceive you.”

Again, abiding refers to remaining or continuing in intimate fellowship to be prepared for the storms of life ... loss of salvation does not exist and therefore never mentioned in scripture!!
He is really starting to sicken me and infuriate me with the way he devalues Jesus while skewing the truth and peddling this bs self sustained salvation......his view is as dangerous as they come...void of contextual honesty and spiritual integrity....adamently standing and opposing truth in pride.....he will pay the price!
 
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Actually, believing in Once Saved, Always Saved is the perfect doctrine for those who would rather focus on "self" rather than works of righteousness.
This right here is one of the most idiotic, false, misleading statements I have seen on this site by a self saving, working for salvation loser.....it reeks of a lack of honesty, truth, integrity and really proves the spirit behind these people that peddle a working for self maintained salvation!
 
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The dude Has said you believe something not true, the same argument which has been going on for the last year, I am amazed you all still give him the time of day..
All for the sake of opposing false gospels.....I cannot allow this cainologists to run rough shod over this thread unchecked....!
 
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All for the sake of opposing false gospels.....I cannot allow this cainologists to run rough shod over this thread unchecked....!
Yet he is running your thread into the ground, you should see it from an outsiders view, we should rename this thread the judges thread
 
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Yet he is running your thread into the ground, you should see it from an outsiders view, we should rename this thread the judges thread

I see it differently, here is he corralled and has no effect .. Truth is elevated against his faulty dogma.

I think he just continually exposes his dishonesty and lack of credibility.
 
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I see it differently, here is he corralled and has no effect .. Truth is elevated against his faulty dogma.

I think he just continually exposes his dishonesty and lack of credibility.
Again, you should see it

every day you have one man spouting the same old lies using the same old arguments and 5 or 6 people saying the same responses and the same results

its like watching a wash cycle

rinse repeat day after day.

its pretty sad that one man has this much power
 
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Again, you should see it

every day you have one man spouting the same old lies using the same old arguments and 5 or 6 people saying the same responses and the same results
its like watching a wash cycle
rinse repeat day after day.
its pretty sad that one man has this much power
And to add it must be exhausting......

To harbor all of that..inside.....
 
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Again, you should see it

every day you have one man spouting the same old lies using the same old arguments and 5 or 6 people saying the same responses and the same results

its like watching a wash cycle

rinse repeat day after day.

its pretty sad that one man has this much power
I understand what you are saying but....

He has no power, for myself, I respond by choice and I can also not respond by choice.
 
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And to add it must be exhausting......

To harbor all of that..inside.....
One thing is for sure

anyone who reads just a few pages will see what he believes and the argument against him.
not to mention, when you listen to the arguments he makes, and the lies he spouts about others. you should see real quick, no one is going to follow him, how many people has he converted in his few years there? Not one, yet we see quite a few converted from his side.

what worries me is if those people came in today and see what’s going here now, they ay never have converted, it’s bad,
 
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Step up to the plate a swing away....!!!
I refuse to feed a Troll my friend, it just makes us look bad,

all I would be doing is wasting my swing when I can concentrate it on someone who really needs it,
 
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I refuse to feed a Troll my friend, it just makes us look bad,

all I would be doing is wasting my swing when I can concentrate it on someone who really needs it,
Are you saying I look bad.:eek:

Well, it is not my fault all the salons , manicurists, gyms, shopping malls and spas are closed down!!! :D
 
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Matt 7:6 Give not that which is holy unto the dogs, neither cast ye your pearls before swine, lest they trample them under their feet, and turn again and rend you.


Matt 10:14 And whosoever shall not receive you, nor hear your words, when ye depart out of that house or city, shake off the dust of your feet.