This Corona virus pandemic could be the weapon that takes our liberties away , all in the name of saving lives?

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Hmmm... Wondering why all these Dr's and Nurse's freedom of speech videos posts describing their professional expert opinion based upon their experiences on the front lines are being deleted from the internet... one by one?
 
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Janne Witt
April 10 at 3:57 AM
If you only ever read one post I make, make it this one.
Robert F. Kennedy Jr is a lawyer. On April 8th he posted the following words about Bill Gates on Instagram. If his words are not true Bill Gates should sue him immediately for libel. However he cannot sue for words that are true.
“Vaccines, for Bill Gates, are a strategic philanthropy that feed his many vaccine-related businesses (including Microsoft’s ambition to control a global vac ID enterprise) and give him dictatorial control over global health policy—the spear tip of corporate neo-imperialism.
Gates’ obsession with vaccines seems fueled by a messianic conviction that he is ordained to save the world with technology and a god-like willingness to experiment with the lives of lesser humans.
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Dude653 said:
I mention this on another thread but America is 5% of the world's population but we have somewhere around 30% of the world's covid-19 death
it's almost as if Americans are reckless and irresponsible or something
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I have a bit of a problem with the reporting....I'm in Canada, and we're about 1/10th the size of the United States, so its even less.

But I'm looking at the numbers being reported by some countries, and I'm scratching my head. I think it could very well be that some places are over reporting, while others are under reporting. I don't really know what the standard is. If an 80 year old resident of a nursing home has alzheimers, diabetes and failing kidneys....and that is not uncommon, if this person contracts the virus and dies....is that a Covid-19 death?

Its almost like a guy who jumps off the top of a 25 storey building into the parking lot, but on the way down gets hit by a gunshot while passing the 5th floor which kills him instantly before he hits the pavement. Is it death by suicide or a gun related fatality?

It looks to me like the worst outbreaks are happening in densely populated urban centres....and the United States has lots of them. I'm in Canada and our largest city is Toronto, its roughly the size of Houston....after that we only have another 4 or 5 cities with populations of 1 million+.....
 
StrugglingTilMyReward said:
If an 80 year old resident of a nursing home has alzheimers, diabetes and failing kidneys....and that is not uncommon, if this person contracts the virus and dies....is that a Covid-19 death?
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Yes, this is a COVID-19 death. This person got the virus and was the cause/sped up the process of other organs failing/or worsening their pre-existing conditions. Are you saying if a person has multiple illnesses, cause of death is unknown?


StrugglingTilMyReward said:
Its almost like a guy who jumps off the top of a 25 storey building into the parking lot, but on the way down gets hit by a gunshot while passing the 5th floor which kills him instantly before he hits the pavement. Is it death by suicide or a gun related fatality?
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Depends on where the shot landed. There should be an autopsy done to figure this out.
 
Dude653 said:
Yeah he's a comedian
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He? , she is a she who has just been let out of jail after 5 years for revealing truths on the government...
She is exposing the truths about the virus...
...xox...

Oh my gosh , I just clicked the link , and it was not posted , a load of other stuff was , sorry about that , can you tell me what you saw when you clicked on link because I am confused why that happend...
 
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StrugglingTilMyReward said:
I have a bit of a problem with the reporting....I'm in Canada, and we're about 1/10th the size of the United States, so its even less.

But I'm looking at the numbers being reported by some countries, and I'm scratching my head. I think it could very well be that some places are over reporting, while others are under reporting. I don't really know what the standard is. If an 80 year old resident of a nursing home has alzheimers, diabetes and failing kidneys....and that is not uncommon, if this person contracts the virus and dies....is that a Covid-19 death?

Its almost like a guy who jumps off the top of a 25 storey building into the parking lot, but on the way down gets hit by a gunshot while passing the 5th floor which kills him instantly before he hits the pavement. Is it death by suicide or a gun related fatality?

It looks to me like the worst outbreaks are happening in densely populated urban centres....and the United States has lots of them. I'm in Canada and our largest city is Toronto, its roughly the size of Houston....after that we only have another 4 or 5 cities with populations of 1 million+.....
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We need to stop looking to the governments for our statistics. Hospitals can track their own numbers, far more trustworthily, and they can task individuals with compiling those numbers, without the government's "help". Granted, that would only get us the numbers for the hospitals, but still, that is very useful data.
 
Rosemaryx said:
He? , she is a she who has just been let out of jail after 5 years for revealing truths on the government...
She is exposing the truths about the virus...
...xox...

Oh my gosh , I just clicked the link , and it was not posted , a load of other stuff was , sorry about that , can you tell me what you saw when you clicked on link because I am confused why that happend...
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Her name is DR Judy Mikovitz...
She is exposing Tony Fauci , she is risking her life once again for speaking out , just thought someone maybe interested in hearing her...
 
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I am not a WHO fan, either, but it does somewhat bother me that this idea is so widely circulated, that someone died of a condition they could have easily survived another decade or so with is the cause of death and not COVID when it is present. If COVID greatly hastened their death, why is it illegitimate to cite it as the cause of death?
 
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Magenta said:
I am not a WHO fan, either, but it does somewhat bother me that this idea is so widely circulated, that someone died of a condition they could have easily survived another decade or so with is the cause of death and not COVID when it is present. If COVID greatly hastened their death, why is it illegitimate to cite it as the cause of death?
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Prove that COVID greatly hastened the death. It's a subjective claim, and generates a meaningless statistic. Imagine if everyone who died prematurely after being vaccinated was deemed a vaccine-related death. The claim that the vaccine hastened death is unsubstantiated, without other evidence, irrespective of the fact that vaccines contain significant amounts of toxic chemicals. How much more so for an alleged virus that has never been proven to exist, let alone proven to be contagious or deadly?
 
Magenta said:
I am not a WHO fan, either, but it does somewhat bother me that this idea is so widely circulated, that someone died of a condition they could have easily survived another decade or so with is the cause of death and not COVID when it is present. If COVID greatly hastened their death, why is it illegitimate to cite it as the cause of death?
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That is a great question...
I've heard several good responses from many Doctors. Dr Judy Mikovits says it very simply that what people die with and from are two distinctly different things; while other Doctor's have amplified that the new guidelines are distinctly different as a precedent/standard compared to how cause of death has been historically recorded prior to CV19.
Here are a couple examples for how I reconcile their point:

A person WITH the Flu would be normally be recorded as dying FROM Cancer - where the Flu only served to accelerate the underlying terminal health issue.

A person WITH a Feather Laced Pillow allergy would normally be recorded as dying FROM Underlying Respiratory issues caused by a history of chronic obesity/sleep anpea issues.
 
Solemateleft said:
Hmmm... Wondering why all these Dr's and Nurse's freedom of speech videos posts describing their professional expert opinion based upon their experiences on the front lines are being deleted from the internet... one by one?
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Very illuminating. However, I think we already knew that the health care system is in a pretty sad state. At the end of the day, though, it's about people--not any system. It looks like these people care more about not getting sued than they do the patients, and so they work to bring this nurse's YouTube video down. But it's illuminating to see just HOW health care is killing people, since that information is getting suppressed for malpractice/legal reasons so much.
 
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Why did my thread about Samaritan's Purse in the Covid crisis get deleted with no notification, nothing?!???
 
Re-posting about Samaritan's Purse here, even though it's a topic unto itself and not the same one. (???)


Samaritan's Purse getting kicked out of New York, not allowed to help Covid patients

This Christian organization set up shop in Central Park in New York City quite some time ago, to help people afflicted with Covid. As you know, their hospital system was inundated, having trouble accommodating everybody. So health care workers from out-of-state came in to help, through the Samaritan's Purse organization. New York City is kicking them out because of their Christian values. The volunteers are required to profess Christian values in order to be a part, including such things as marriage between one man and one woman. However, Samaritan's Purse never turned away patients based on religion, race, or sexual orientation. They helped everybody in need. Hope Rising just got done raising $1.6 million to help Samaritan's Purse.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...fter-councilman-called-on-group-to-leave-city

Also, Governor Cuomo is saying the volunteers are now required to pay state income tax. They were working in the state for more than 14 days, so they are required. They don't get an exception because they were assisting New York with Covid.
https://www.washingtonexaminer.com/...ork-with-pandemic-must-pay-state-income-taxes

They are in the middle of tearing down their field tents now. Existing patients are being allowed to stay until their cases complete. I guess New York cannot be helped.
 
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