Not By Works

[dcontroversal]

Just curious, dc.

Would your reviling and insulting a total stranger (fellow believer) pass that same litmus test?

And does not your behavior effectively condemn you in being ignorant of one of the two greatest commandments the Saviour told us about?

If you hate your brother, how can you love God?

You talk to me as though I was a total unbeliever in God. I genuinely care about people and the truth; this is what drives me.

Please be considerate of how you treat people who were made in the image of God. And if you truly believe I am in error, speaking to me in such opprobrious language is not going to save this, or any other soul, from error (as you see it).

Make no mistake Pal....your dogma does not make us brothers, and SARCASM AND DIRECTED heat at false satanic dogmas that have no power to save is biblical....SEE JESUS, JOHN, ELIJAH, PAUL and others....!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

The life Christ gives is indeed eternal and everlasting.
The question between now and the end of your life is if you are going to continue to possess the life that is eternal.

And, actually, your possession of it is based on what you believe.
What you do or don't do is just the result of what you believe.
We know what a person believes by what they say and what they do.
In the end, it's what you believe that determines if you will continue to possess the life that is eternal.
That's why we are exhorted to continue to believe and trust in Jesus:

"14 ...since we have a great high priest who has ascended into heaven...let us hold firmly to the faith we profess." - Hebrews 4:14

"23 Let us hold unswervingly to the hope we profess, for he who promised is faithful." - Hebrews 10:29

Eternal life is eternal genius and the GIFTS (PLURAL) OF God are irrevocably given Jesus devaluer!

 

[dcontroversal]

Seriously.
Write it down this time so you don't forget what I say is the real gospel.

hahaahha you neither know or have the real gospel pal......make no mistake about it.....what you do have is a false dogma that does not have the power to save dirt, much less a man!

 

[EleventhHour]

hahaahha you neither know or have the real gospel pal......make no mistake about it.....what you do have is a false dogma that does not have the power to save dirt, much less a man!

Agree and Thank you!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Same crap Ralph used to peddle hahaha what a joke!

I don't know about that, but I want every Freegracer here to honestly list the shows they've been watching on Hulu, and Netflix, etc. and we'll see who's been excusing their sin.

I mean, watching naked couples have sex, with genitals visible (a.k.a. porn) is a sin even in the new osas doctrine, right? It's just excused in the name of grace, right?

 

[dcontroversal]

Deflection

Same style of Ralph....next he will accuse Jesus of sinning because he ate with whores, drunks and Pharisees.......wonder if he watches commercials about condoms, gays, lesbians, women in bras and panties etc....or how about billboards on highways that promote sex shops or strip joints.......he is such a hypocrite peddling a self saving religion that a blind man without echo location can peg him down!

 

[dcontroversal]

I did see Michelangelo's statue of "David" last summer does that count?

Come to think of it, there were a lot of naked bodies on the wall and the ceiling!!

It was great!!

You sinner you.......!

 

[dcontroversal]

No, my doctrine does not say you can sin all you want and you will remain saved no matter what.

Change the word doctrine to dogma and add the word false....then your statement will be valid!

 

[dcontroversal]

The only people who accuse that "grace is a license to sin" are the ones who preach a losable salvation.

You sir, have a SIN issue, that is clear.

Paul states that those who make accusations "grace is a license to sin" do so from a place of unbelief.

And there we have the TRUE UNBELIEF... is the one you preach

You do not believe that all sin will was settled at the cross ... that is UNBELIEF

Our deeds never determined our destiny and to preach "grace" ........ is not to sanction sin ..........but to settle one's trust in the Saviour.

And he uses the phrase....AS SOME SLANDEROUSLY REPORT...

Judges SLANDERS those who rightfully believe in a 100% grace/faith based eternal NON LOSABLE salvation....!!

 

[EleventhHour]

And he uses the phrase....AS SOME SLANDEROUSLY REPORT...

Judges SLANDERS those who rightfully believe in a 100% grace/faith based eternal NON LOSABLE salvation....!!

He does indeed... just this morning he told me I was not saved, several times in fact... I just consider the source.

 

[dcontroversal]

King David
Moses
Saul/Paul

Examples of three murderers who I KNOW will be in heaven with me when I get there

Amen.....if we take the road these salvation losers and self sustained salvation fakers purport to it's final conclusion by their own LOGIC....no one is saved and or will make the gates of heaven.....their logic is seen in the following two verses....

ALL MEN are liars

ALL LIARS will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimestone!

 

[dcontroversal]

Like I said yesterday, you NEVER focus on God’s grace, but rather your twisted negativity.

God will not lose even one that belongs to Him. That’s grace, and it’s beautiful.

Amen.......the fraudulent self sustainers of their own salvation cannot grasp this truth......SAVED to the uttermost and KEPT by the power of God through the FAITH JESUS BEGINS, FINISHES AND COMPLETES in us....they absolutely deny this and make God into a liar...and the joker you are addressing is the top one on this thread!

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Amen.....if we take the road these salvation losers and self sustained salvation fakers purport to it's final conclusion by their own LOGIC....no one is saved and or will make the gates of heaven.....their logic is seen in the following two verses....

ALL MEN are liars

ALL LIARS will have their part in the lake that burns with fire and brimestone!

when you fail to become "poor in spirit"

that is what the end result is, You think you are more righteous than the so called sinners so like the pharisee, you pump your chest and are unable to see your pride

 

[dcontroversal]

I have learned that it is people who understand the cross... the death and resurrection of Christ Jesus are the ones who are saved.

The ones that understand all sin was settled at the cross.

Exactly........funny how my bible tells me that I was saved while yet being a SINNER based upon GRACE, MERCY AND GOD GIVEN FAITH.....but hey.....these fakes and frauds absolutely must elevate self while devaluing JESUS....we all know someone else that did that.....I WILL he said...7 times....here are the 7 Ralph/Judges peddle

I WILL save myself by NOT SINNING

I WILL maintain my salvation by MY SUSTAINED FAITH

I WILL walk in MY RIGHTEOUSNESS which KEEPS ME SAVES

I WILL NOT SIN like these other sinners which makes me uper duper saved

I WILL BLAH BLAH BLAH

About to vomit at the level of I WILL found in Judges dogma!!

 

[dcontroversal]

when you fail to become "poor in spirit"

that is what the end result is, You think you are more righteous than the so called sinners so like the pharisee, you pump your chest and are unable to see your pride

100% agree........

 

[dcontroversal]

https://christianchat.com/threads/not-by-works.146296/post-4243510

But if you want I'll say it again: I don't consider you a genuinely saved person.
Your view of sin is why.

By dogma, you openly admit to being an unbeliever.....your own words judge you pal!

 

[dcontroversal]

notice the focus on " me, I my," in all his posts.

it shows a person who is focused on self rather than Jesus.

in my daily prayers , I thank Jesus for what He did for us, not what a good person * I * am....

He is the epitome of "I WILL"

 

[Judges1318]

Moses being cut off is a picture and type of Jesus.

How so?

As you probably know, Moses was raised up and appointed by God to lead His people out of the slavery and bondage of Egypt.
He is a type and shadow of how Jesus was raised up and appointed by God to lead His people out of the slavery and bondage of sin.
Along the way, Moses was cut off from entering into the inheritance because of the sin of the people.
They go in while Moses gets cut off.
This is a picture for us of how Jesus was also cut off because of our sin.
He got cut off while we who sinned enter in.

Remember, Moses is a picture of the reality, Christ.
Don't overthink it and ruin this wonderful glimpse into the penalty Christ endured because of us who sinned.
Watch, some will.

 

[Judges1318]

You did know Adam was a type of Christ, right?

Still trying to push the disobedient type I see.

"...Adam, who is a type of Him who was to come." - Romans 5:14

 

[EleventhHour]

Don't overthink it and ruin this wonderful glimpse into what Christ endured on behalf of us sinners.
Watch, some will.

How can anyone "overthink" this^^^^^^
O brother ...