Does man have a libertarian free will?

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Does man have a libertarian free will?

  • Yes, man has a libertarian free will

    Votes: 12 41.4%

  • No, man does not have a libertarian free will

    Votes: 16 55.2%

  • I don't know

    Votes: 1 3.4%
  • Total voters
    29
Dave-L said:
Grace = we don't deserve God's love.
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Grace may be defined as the unmerited or undeserving favor of God to those who are under condemnation.

Of course we dont deserve grace. But that is the very essence of grace. What is your point?
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
Grace may be defined as the unmerited or undeserving favor of God to those who are under condemnation.

Of course we dont deserve grace. But that is the very essence of grace. What is your point?
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If salvation depends on you, it is not of grace and you are the savior.
 
Dave-L said:
If salvation depends on you, it is not of grace and you are the savior.
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Limited Atonement isnt grace either. Regardless I'm sorry but Jesus tells us he is the only way. Jesus calls for people to believe and put faith in His promises. Yes as explained above that you didn't address. There are 2 types of faith. A gift, and one of man which we also see as a call to believe.

People couldn't be accountable to sin if we had no will to choose between good and evil. The moral law. The law written on the heart. Conscience bearing witness to such law.
 
Dave-L said:
But faith is a fruit of the Holy Spirit. The demons believe by sight.
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Yes pistis faith. But that isnt the only faith we have. Belief is the first step.

Romans 10:10 New International Version (NIV)
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

But in context obviously repentance, and perseverance is necessary.

Unfortunately many dont move on from belief. Read the parable of the sower.
 
Dave-L said:
That's how it works out. Of course, they would never admit it.
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In your opinion. You have to very vehemently deny scriptures to accept your theology. How do you handle scriptures that call for belief, acceptance, a choice, to abide, to return, or scripture of warning to believer about being led astray or fall away?

All scriptures with this context sounds very comical within your interpretation.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
In your opinion. You have to very vehemently deny scriptures to accept your theology. How do you handle scriptures that call for belief, acceptance, a choice, to abide, to return, or scripture of warning to believer about being led astray or fall away?

All scriptures with this context sounds very comical within your interpretation.
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Conditional salvation is not grace. It is works.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
Yes pistis faith. But that isnt the only faith we have. Belief is the first step.

Romans 10:10 New International Version (NIV)
10 For it is with your heart that you believe and are justified, and it is with your mouth that you profess your faith and are saved.

But in context obviously repentance, and perseverance is necessary.

Unfortunately many dont move on from belief. Read the parable of the sower.
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God must save a person before they can believe. Faith is a FRUIT of the Holy Spirit.
 
Roughsoul1991 said:
Limited Atonement isnt grace either. Regardless I'm sorry but Jesus tells us he is the only way. Jesus calls for people to believe and put faith in His promises. Yes as explained above that you didn't address. There are 2 types of faith. A gift, and one of man which we also see as a call to believe.

People couldn't be accountable to sin if we had no will to choose between good and evil. The moral law. The law written on the heart. Conscience bearing witness to such law.
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Limited Atonement is pure grace. It saves its subjects completely.
 
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