Catholicism vs Protestantism

[Jackson123]

Jews as a religion not worship true god.

Jews curse Jesus, below is the testimony of ex rabi, his rabbi father and granola curse Jesus, he lost his job when he accept Jesus, he experience physical persecution when he talk about jesus.

How people worship true god persecute Jesus?

Heard this testimony, I believe there is similarity between how Jews hide the truth about jesus and catholic.

Jews discourage people read bible directly, they want you read the interpretation.

Catholic teach interprate bible is not for individual, than what? Read interpretation, let Vatican interprate for you, it easier for them to lie

Example saling forgiveness

 

[Dan_473]

Some Indian people believe eagle is the true god

Are you talking about native Americans? Which tribe are you talking about?

 

[Dan_473]

Those having migrated to the America's would have had exposure in their countries of origin.

It's my understanding that the people that were living in the Americas such as the Mayans or the Lakota were descendants of people who migrated long before 30 ad.

I don't understand what you're saying, please give more details!

 

[Dan_473]

Talking about the true god or worshiping the true god

Both!
As high priest, he would have been involved in many duties commanded by God through Moses, such as animal sacrifices and cleansings.

So he was definitely involved in the worship of the true God!

Now, was he worshiping from the heart? Probably not.
Was he worshiping in spirit and in truth? Probably not.

 

[Jackson123]

Are you talking about native Americans? Which tribe are you talking about?

Navajo

 

[Jackson123]

Both!
As high priest, he would have been involved in many duties commanded by God through Moses, such as animal sacrifices and cleansings.

So he was definitely involved in the worship of the true God!

Now, was he worshiping from the heart? Probably not.
Was he worshiping in spirit and in truth? Probably not.

I believe after Jesus die, Jews that not accept Jesus is not worship true god, but rebelt against the true god. Rabi discourage Jews read bible, just read interpretation, I believe they afraid if they read bible, they discover the true god (jesus ) and left Judaism

 

[Dan_473]

What do you mean by god written word not open to private interpretation?

I think it's like this, remembering that prophecy can mean bringing a message from God, which is what the people who wrote down the Bible were doing, imo.

"20Above all else, however, remember that none of us can explain by ourselves a prophecy in the Scriptures. 21For no prophetic message ever came just from the human will, but people were under the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the message that came from God."
https://biblehub.com/gnt/2_peter/1.htm

Does that make sense?

 

[Dan_473]

How people worship true god persecute Jesus?

Just like they did in Jesus day!

I think it's good to keep in mind
Romans 11: 25 For I don't desire you to be ignorant, brothers, of this mystery, so that you won't be wise in your own conceits, that a partial hardening has happened to Israel, until the fullness of the Gentiles has come in.

 

[Dan_473]

Heard this testimony, I believe there is similarity between how Jews hide the truth about jesus and catholic.

Jews discourage people read bible directly, they want you read the interpretation.

Catholic teach interprate bible is not for individual, than what? Read interpretation, let Vatican interprate for you, it easier for them to lie

Example saling forgiveness

I think that would go back to the question we talked about a long time ago.
is the Bible properly interpreted by each individual reading it by themselves with the help of the holy Spirit?
Or does the holy Spirit give the proper interpretation to the body of Christ as a whole?

 

[garee]

Heard this testimony, I believe there is similarity between how Jews hide the truth about jesus and catholic.

Jews discourage people read bible directly, they want you read the interpretation.

Catholic teach interprate bible is not for individual, than what? Read interpretation, let Vatican interprate for you, it easier for them to lie

Example saling forgiveness

They like to faithless, atheistic Jews called fools held to Pagan form of religion . . an abomination of desolation. Out of sight out of mind. No faith that comes from hearing the words of God. The mentality. God is in everything, everything is God. The imaginations of a fleshly mind

Seeing their religion is based on the things seen. This means they have another teaching authority other than the faith that comes from hearing and believing the word of God.. . another gospel .

There foundation necromancy is based on familiarity with what the eyes see.( No faith needed)

The Catholics have 3500 an rising, picking up speed of the patron Pope approval as workers with familiar spirits. They they must call that illusion "patron saints" .This makes our father in heaven not seen as silent and the approval is changed over to the fathers a law of natural men.... oral .This is beside the the hat denied .Call no man father or fathers on earth . again usurping the unseen authority of faith

They like Rachel and her family used teraphims as images in their idol worship ceremonies.

When Josiah found the bible. God's book of law .He was moved by the Holy Spirit to destroy the abomination of desolation .

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.


The pagan foundation simply destroys the foundation of faith as it is written. In that way no man can serve two teaching Masters.

Our father not seen or a legion of fathers seen?

 

[Jackson123]

I think it's like this, remembering that prophecy can mean bringing a message from God, which is what the people who wrote down the Bible were doing, imo.

"20Above all else, however, remember that none of us can explain by ourselves a prophecy in the Scriptures. 21For no prophetic message ever came just from the human will, but people were under the control of the Holy Spirit as they spoke the message that came from God."
https://biblehub.com/gnt/2_peter/1.htm

Does that make sense?

Message from god to human. Why you think Holy Spirit not help individual human to understand that message? That message is for them.

 

[Jackson123]

I think that would go back to the question we talked about a long time ago.
is the Bible properly interpreted by each individual reading it by themselves with the help of the holy Spirit?
Or does the holy Spirit give the proper interpretation to the body of Christ as a whole?

Body of Christ is consist of individual, it doesn't matter if this individuals are regular member or pastor, God love them all and speak to them all. You can't fool god by position. High priest may liar, regular member may honest

 

[Jackson123]

They like to faithless, atheistic Jews called fools held to Pagan form of religion . . an abomination of desolation. Out of sight out of mind. No faith that comes from hearing the words of God. The mentality. God is in everything, everything is God. The imaginations of a fleshly mind

Seeing their religion is based on the things seen. This means they have another teaching authority other than the faith that comes from hearing and believing the word of God.. . another gospel .

There foundation necromancy is based on familiarity with what the eyes see.( No faith needed)

The Catholics have 3500 an rising, picking up speed of the patron Pope approval as workers with familiar spirits. They they must call that illusion "patron saints" .This makes our father in heaven not seen as silent and the approval is changed over to the fathers a law of natural men.... oral .This is beside the the hat denied .Call no man father or fathers on earth . again usurping the unseen authority of faith

They like Rachel and her family used teraphims as images in their idol worship ceremonies.

When Josiah found the bible. God's book of law .He was moved by the Holy Spirit to destroy the abomination of desolation .

2 Kings 23:24 Moreover the workers with familiar spirits, and the wizards, and the images, and the idols, and all the abominations that were spied in the land of Judah and in Jerusalem, did Josiah put away, that he might perform the words of the law which were written in the book that Hilkiah the priest found in the house of the Lord.


The pagan foundation simply destroys the foundation of faith as it is written. In that way no man can serve two teaching Masters.

Our father not seen or a legion of fathers seen?

Good point. Faith must come from hearing the word of god.
Liars are smart, they make something similar to word of God so people thing that is the word of God and accept it.

But real faith come from hearing real word of God.
Similar is not real

 

[Jackson123]

I think that would go back to the question we talked about a long time ago.
is the Bible properly interpreted by each individual reading it by themselves with the help of the holy Spirit?
Or does the holy Spirit give the proper interpretation to the body of Christ as a whole?

In the history we learn some time bible interprate by liar that have high position in the organization call church, and it may not real church of god, for example saling forgiveness, purgatory etc

 

[Dan_473]

Navajo

Do the Navajo think the eagle is the true God, or one God among many?

 

[Dan_473]

I believe after Jesus die, Jews that not accept Jesus is not worship true god, but rebelt against the true god. Rabi discourage Jews read bible, just read interpretation, I believe they afraid if they read bible, they discover the true god (jesus ) and left Judaism

And you're welcome to your opinion! A lot of people would disagree with you, including a lot of Protestants.

And you can continue to say that Christians who have a different opinion than you cannot be Christians. Imo, that creates unnecessary division in the body of Christ.

There are also some things in the Bible that I think will cause problems with that opinion
Romans 10: 3 For being ignorant of God's righteousness, and seeking to establish their own righteousness, they didn't subject themselves to the righteousness of God.

Paul says that they are ignorant of God's righteousness, I agree with that! But he doesn't say they are trying to worship a different God.

 

[Dan_473]

Message from god to human. Why you think Holy Spirit not help individual human to understand that message? That message is for them.

Sorry, I can't make sense out of your words there. Please reword, if you wish.

 

[Dan_473]

Body of Christ is consist of individual, it doesn't matter if this individuals are regular member or pastor, God love them all and speak to them all. You can't fool god by position. High priest may liar, regular member may honest

Absolutely! so are you considering that God gives the correct interpretation of the scriptures to a collection of individuals?

 

[Dan_473]

In the history we learn some time bible interprate by liar that have high position in the organization call church, and it may not real church of god, for example saling forgiveness, purgatory etc

Very possibly! But before we can say which is the interpretation true and which is false, we have to have a standard by which we're going to judge the interpretations!

 

[Jackson123]

Do the Navajo think the eagle is the true God, or one God among many?

One among many true god