CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

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miknik5

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Sudakar said:
Christ's merits which earn salvation from God is not creation. Your merits is creation.
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Please explain who CHRIST is, sir...prior to HIS crucifixion as well as afterwards.

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Sudakar said:
He moves His people to proclaim the gospel by first giving them faith in His Son for both salvation of body and soul.
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NOT always for the physical body...(not in this fallen world)...but yes, EVER and ALWAYS for our soul...just as HE, THE SON, proclaimed, regarding HIMSELF as THE RESURRECTION and that those who believe on HIM, though they die (physically because the body is NEVER FULLY HEALED), shall live (spiritually)..and those who live (physcially though this is temporal) and believe in HIM shall never die (spiritually)...

Therefore sir...recognize the difference in body and soul with regards to THE LORDŚ WORD and not your own...
 
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Sudakar said:
He moves His people to proclaim the gospel by first giving them faith in His Son for both salvation of body and soul.
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Do you deny that those who receive and believe the TRUTH of THE GOSPEL, sir...even on their death beds, even if afterwards, they pass..they are, nevertheless....HEALED...
 
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Sudakar said:
Except joshua and Caleb none who saw signs believed & they couldn't enter Canaan.

3John 1: 2: "I pray that you may enjoy good health and that all may go well with you, even as your soul is getting along well".
It is God's will for those who carry the gospel to be healed.

Boast not about Benny or the signs. Boast in God's election & His atonement.
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Boast in the LORD, sir...period...
You need not add to the WORD of GOD...
If you don´t remember what the word truly says, you could read one of Paul´s letters regarding what we should boast in...
 
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Sudakar said:
Christ's merits which earn salvation from God is not creation. Your merits is creation.
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Please preach THE GOSPEL sir...and add nothing to it BUT THE GOSPEL...we do NOT preach CHRIST´s merits, but THE CROSS...but stopping there is halting the TRUE GOSPEL...


Please expound what is missing from THE TRUE GOSPEL
 
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Sudakar said:
Hebrews 11:6: "without faith it is impossible to please God, because anyone who comes to him must believe that he exists and that he rewards those who earnestly seek him".

Prophecies and miracles don't please God. Faith in Christ's atonement for salvation & bodily healing pleases God.

Teach faith so christians don't depend on pentecostal gifted healers.
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Faith in what sir?
 
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Sudakar said:
Blessed is who is not seeing but believes. So don't promote signs & gifted healers.

Don't also preach the false message justifying christians being in sickness.

Don't hinder the work of encouraging christians to believe Christ for healing and proclaim the gospel.
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What is the TRUE GOSPEL, sir?
 
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Until you can respond with regards to THE TRUE GOSPEL sir, you should NOT be instructing ANYONE...
 
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Sir, make sure when you THINK you are teaching these who are sick that you are NOT proclaiming Jesus blood...
because that is NOT the TRUTH of THE TRUE GOSPEL...something, MOST IMPORTANT is missing from your message, sir...and it is NOT at ALL GOOD NEWS, nor, if I am understanding correctly, PLEASING TO GOD...AT ALL....
 
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wolfwint said:
I never encouraged people to Trust me. Maby you should read my posts instead of interprete them wrong.
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Teach them to heal themselves by faith in Christ's atonement and teach them to proclaim the good news.
 
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Sudakar

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miknik5 said:
What is the TRUE GOSPEL, sir?
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Faith in Christ's atonement saves from wrath and heals from sicknesses. That is true gospel. Teach christians not to trust in gifted healers.
 
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miknik5 said:
The purpose is to proclaim something more than that sir...the purpose is to proclaim the TRUE GOSPEL

What is the TRUE GOSPEL, sir?
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The gifted healers don't mostly proclaim the gospel. Rather they make christians depend on them for healing.
 
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Sudakar

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miknik5 said:
You very well might mean well and think you are doing a good work, but you aren´t. I believe that you are just following the wrong shepherd, someone who has put this idea in your head that christians are weak and faultering and that they run after men fo

Of course...and yet, you continue to put more emphasis on temporal healing to those who have been.....truly healed....
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Your shepherd are gifted healers. My shepherd is Christ.

Believing Christ's atonement for healing to proclaim the gospel is correct emphasis.
 
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KelbyofGod

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Sudakar said:
Q1: Does God heal today? Q2: If yes, on what basis does God heal? Q3: Do christians have to depend only on doctors or people like t.b.joshua for healing?
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A1: Yep, God still heals today.
A2: "According to your faith, be it so" still seems to be a basis for healings.
A3: People should use wisdom...if they don't know how to get a healing from God they should take that into account before refusing a medical treatment...IMHO... and I'll have to look up who t.b.joshua is before I could comment on him/her.

Love in Jesus,
Kelby
 
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