Catholicism vs Protestantism
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The reason we worship the same God as the Jews is because we are both worshipping YHVH Elohim. In South Africa we have many people using two names. Does that make them two different people 
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The Muslims worship the sun god Baal/Allah whatever you want to call him. He is a elohim but not THE Elohim. If you look at all the Muslim signs what do you see? Baal Hadad. They are Baal worshippers.
?The Muslims worship the sun god Baal/Allah whatever you want to call him. He is a elohim but not THE Elohim. If you look at all the Muslim signs what do you see? Baal Hadad. They are Baal worshippers.
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When I was involved in missionary works for m church man years ago, I recalled my church priest said this before sent us out to various communities to preach on the gospel of Jesus Christ, if you see a muslim easily recognize by heir skin color and cloths) leave them alone and if yo have wrongly gave the flyer on the gospel of Jesus Christ.to a muslim, politely take back the flyer from them immediately. At the bottom of the flyer must be printed For non-muslims only. If you didnt, it will be considered unlawful publication, and you can be either find or even jailed as well.
Few years back, i think (3-5 years back), there is one pastor named Roland Koh. His church is big named Dream Center at the heart of Petaling Jaya, a city about 50km away from Kuala Lumpur, capital of Malaysia. . He is one of the many pastors in that church. His church rented out part of the church premise to a child care. So unknowingly, some muslims parent sent their children there also. During Christmas that year, the child care invited all parents to a party at the church premise. So some muslms parents came and in the midst of the party, islamic authority together with few police officers raided the party. This was published in the newspaper the following day and created a wave of protest from the Christian community. Few days later pastor Roland Koh couldnt be found anymore, just vanished in thin air till today. A police report was lodged and found from CCTV recording that pastor Roland Koh was abducted at gun point by a group of military attire men. It was rumoured (not sure) that the reason for pastor Roland Koh was he tried to convert those muslim parents. Nobody knows where pastor Roland Koh was included his family, wife and children and our police could not trace who were those abductors.
Few years back, i think (3-5 years back), there is one pastor named Roland Koh. His church is big named Dream Center at the heart of Petaling Jaya, a city about 50km away from Kuala Lumpur, capital of Malaysia. . He is one of the many pastors in that church. His church rented out part of the church premise to a child care. So unknowingly, some muslims parent sent their children there also. During Christmas that year, the child care invited all parents to a party at the church premise. So some muslms parents came and in the midst of the party, islamic authority together with few police officers raided the party. This was published in the newspaper the following day and created a wave of protest from the Christian community. Few days later pastor Roland Koh couldnt be found anymore, just vanished in thin air till today. A police report was lodged and found from CCTV recording that pastor Roland Koh was abducted at gun point by a group of military attire men. It was rumoured (not sure) that the reason for pastor Roland Koh was he tried to convert those muslim parents. Nobody knows where pastor Roland Koh was included his family, wife and children and our police could not trace who were those abductors.
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I believe a little lower in the article it says
"In some cases, a substance's matter will itself be a substance. If substance A is made out of substance B, then substance B is the matter of substance A. However, what is the matter of a substance that is not made out of any other substance? According to Aristotelians, such a substance has only "prime matter" as its matter."
"In some cases, a substance's matter will itself be a substance. If substance A is made out of substance B, then substance B is the matter of substance A. However, what is the matter of a substance that is not made out of any other substance? According to Aristotelians, such a substance has only "prime matter" as its matter."
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I think Jews and Christians worship the same God.
But Jews don't have good knowledge about God.
Romans 10: 1 Brothers, my heart's desire and my prayer to God is for Israel, that they may be saved. 2 For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
But Jews don't have good knowledge about God.
Romans 10: 1 Brothers, my heart's desire and my prayer to God is for Israel, that they may be saved. 2 For I testify about them that they have a zeal for God, but not according to knowledge.
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The reason we worship the same God as the Jews is because we are both worshipping YHVH Elohim. In South Africa we have many people using two names. Does that make them two different people ?
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Well, I don't know about that. Many churches where I live have an American flag in the sanctuary with a Roman eagle on top. Are they worshipping the Roman eagle and everything it stands for?
I think a good case can be made for either Jews or Muslims in either direction. I don't have a strong opinion about it myself.
Because of all that, I don't think that it's good to say that a person who says one thing or the other about either group cannot be a Christian.
Great example! John calling the tractor and airplane doesn't change the nature of the tractor.
And if John says some things about the tractor that are true and some things that are false, it is still the same tractor.
I think a good case can be made for saying that Muslims call God "God", but also listen to lies from Satan. Just as John saying false things about the tractor didn't change the tractor, Muslims repeating false things they heard from Satan about God doesn't change who God is.
it sounds to me similar to what the ancient Samaritans were doing
2 Kings 17: 32 So they went on worshipping the Lord, and made for themselves, from among all the people, priests for the high places, to make offerings for them in the houses of the high places. 33 They gave worship to the Lord, but they gave honour to their gods like the nations did from whom they had been taken as prisoners.
I think it continued into Jesus' day
John 4: 22 You worship that which you don't know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.
And if John says some things about the tractor that are true and some things that are false, it is still the same tractor.
I think a good case can be made for saying that Muslims call God "God", but also listen to lies from Satan. Just as John saying false things about the tractor didn't change the tractor, Muslims repeating false things they heard from Satan about God doesn't change who God is.
it sounds to me similar to what the ancient Samaritans were doing
2 Kings 17: 32 So they went on worshipping the Lord, and made for themselves, from among all the people, priests for the high places, to make offerings for them in the houses of the high places. 33 They gave worship to the Lord, but they gave honour to their gods like the nations did from whom they had been taken as prisoners.
I think it continued into Jesus' day
John 4: 22 You worship that which you don't know. We worship that which we know; for salvation is from the Jews.