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Jesus put it on my heart to post the following:

The math to get the center of the map of the world (comment #1844, above):

Glory to God.

The length of a great cubit comes from the size of a Roman foot, that comes from the book:
A DISCOVRSE OF THE ROMANE FOOT, AND DENARIVS: From whence, as from two principles, THE MEASVRES, AND WEIGHTS, used by the Ancients, may be deduced. By JOHN GREAVES, Professor of Astronomy in the Vniversity of Oxford. LONDON, Printed by M.F. for William Lee, and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Turkshead in Fleet-street. 1647. (pages 22, 41)
1 Roman foot = 11.604 inches (1,934 ÷ 2,000 = 0.967, 0.967 × 12 = 11.604)

1 hand breadth = 2.901 inches (11.604 inches ÷ 4 = 2.901)
1 finger breadth = 0.72525 inch (2.901 inches ÷ 4 = 0.72525)
1 hand span (distance from the end of the thumb to the end of the little finger of a stretched out hand) = 8.703 inches (2.901 inches × 3 = 8.703)

1 cubit = 17.406 inches (2.901 inches × 6 = 17.406) = 1.4505 foot (17.406 inches ÷ 12 = 1.4505) = 1 foot, 5.406 inches (0.4505 foot × 12 = 5.406) = 1 cubit "after the cubit of a man" (Deuteronomy 3:11), "after the first measure" (2 Chronicles 3:3), and "according to the measure of a man" (Revelation 21:17)

1 great cubit (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 20.307 inches (2.901 inches × 7 = 20.307) = 1.69225 foot (20.307 inches ÷ 12 = 1.69225) = 1 foot, 8.307 inches (0.69225 foot × 12 = 8.307) = 1 "great" (Ezekiel 41:8) cubit, and a "cubit and an hand breadth" (Ezekiel 40:5, 43:13)

1 full reed (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 121.842 inches (20.307 inches × 6 = 121.842) = 10.1535 feet (121.842 inches ÷ 12 = 10.1535) = 10 feet, 1.842 inch (0.1535 foot × 12 = 1.842) = 1 "full reed of six great cubits" (Ezekiel 41:8)

1 foot = 0.3048 meter
1 statute mile = 5,280 feet = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 nautical mile (1 statute mile = 1.609344 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1,852 meters = 1.852 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1.852 kilometer ÷ 1.609344 = 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 statute mile, 1 statute mile = 1 nautical mile ÷ 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051)

From the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, due east at sea level to the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 120 great cubits:
10 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:4 [20 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 40 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:2) + 20 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:49) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5]), including going down the 11 steps (Ezekiel 40:49, 41:8 [6 great cubits = 121.842 inches, 121.842 inches ÷ 11.604 inches (1 step) = 10.5 steps (121.842 inches), so you have to add another 0.5 step (5.802 inches), 10.5 steps (121.842 inches) + 0.5 step (5.802 inches) = 11 steps (127.644 inches or 10.637 feet)]) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) +1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) = 120 great cubits = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175 nautical mile (203.07 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile, 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175) = 203.07 feet (1.69225 foot × 120 = 203.07) = 61.895736 meters (203.07 feet × 0.3048 = 61.895736)

From the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, due north at sea level to the top of the Foundation Stone, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20) of the outer court of the temple, Latitude 31.778000° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 250 great cubits:
6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5 great cubits]) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:36) + 100 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:23), including going down the 8 steps (Ezekiel 40:37) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:21) = 250 great cubits = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile (423.0625 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile, 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114) = 423.0625 feet (1.69225 foot × 250 = 423.0625) = 128.94945 meters (423.0625 feet × 0.3048 = 128.94945)

The Foundation Stone of Jerusalem, Israel, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20), is position:
Latitude 31.778000° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.778000° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.778000° of latitude × 60 = 46.68’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.68’ of latitude × 60 = 40.8” of latitude

Longitude 035.235401° E = Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
0.235401° of longitude × 60 = 14.12406’ of longitude
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.12406’ of longitude × 60 = 7.4436” of longitude

60 nautical miles = 1° of latitude

0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile ÷ 60 = 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude
Latitude 31.778000° N - 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude = Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N

The center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.776839547786177105831533477322° of latitude × 60 = 46.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude × 60 = 36.6223720302375809935205183592” of latitude

π = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795

1° of longitude on a sphere at the Equator = 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles (360° of latitude × 60 = 21,600 nautical miles, 21,600 nautical miles × 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles, 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles ÷ 360 = 69.04676688141255070388928656645)

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N ÷ 180° = 0.17653799748770098392128629709623
0.17653799748770098392128629709623 × π = 0.55461047598681478619796532618491
Cos(0.55461047598681478619796532618491) (in Radians) = 0.85010563285640438109247192085087
0.85010563285640438109247192085087 × 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles = 58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles is the distance of 1° of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles is the distance of 1’ of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles is the distance of 1” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles × 5,280 = 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet
203.07 feet ÷ 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet = 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E - 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude = Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

The center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E = Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
60” of longitude = 1’ of longitude
5.0847620532989928817831453693454” of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude
60’ of longitude = 1° of longitude
14.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.23474576723702749802271754038037° of longitude
 
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Give all of the glory and honor and praise to the Lord Jesus Christ, my God.

The five lines of latitude – that are all circles – on my (rough draft) map (comment #1844, above) are:
Latitude 66.5° N – Arctic Circle
Latitude 23.5° N – Tropic of Cancer
Latitude 0° – Equator
Latitude 23.5° S – Tropic of Capricorn
Latitude 66.5° S – Antarctic Circle

The thirty-eight lines of longitude on the map, all appearing two times, except for two lines that appear three times, are:
Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E (straight line)
Longitude 025.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 015.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 005.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 002.674307786083575528416318295194° E (appears three times) (straight line)
Longitude 004.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 014.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 024.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 034.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 044.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 054.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 064.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 074.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 084.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 094.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 104.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 114.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 124.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 134.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 144.76525423276297250197728245962° W (straight line)
Longitude 154.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 164.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 174.76525423276297250197728245962° W
Longitude 175.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 165.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 155.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 145.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 135.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 125.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 115.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 105.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 095.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 085.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 075.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 067.795183748390479467629116785566° E (appears three times) (straight line)
Longitude 065.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 055.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
Longitude 045.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
 

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Jesus put it on my heart to post the following:

The math to get the center of the map of the world (comment #1844, above):

Glory to God.

The length of a great cubit comes from the size of a Roman foot, that comes from the book:
A DISCOVRSE OF THE ROMANE FOOT, AND DENARIVS: From whence, as from two principles, THE MEASVRES, AND WEIGHTS, used by the Ancients, may be deduced. By JOHN GREAVES, Professor of Astronomy in the Vniversity of Oxford. LONDON, Printed by M.F. for William Lee, and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Turkshead in Fleet-street. 1647. (pages 22, 41)
1 Roman foot = 11.604 inches (1,934 ÷ 2,000 = 0.967, 0.967 × 12 = 11.604)

1 hand breadth = 2.901 inches (11.604 inches ÷ 4 = 2.901)
1 finger breadth = 0.72525 inch (2.901 inches ÷ 4 = 0.72525)
1 hand span (distance from the end of the thumb to the end of the little finger of a stretched out hand) = 8.703 inches (2.901 inches × 3 = 8.703)

1 cubit = 17.406 inches (2.901 inches × 6 = 17.406) = 1.4505 foot (17.406 inches ÷ 12 = 1.4505) = 1 foot, 5.406 inches (0.4505 foot × 12 = 5.406) = 1 cubit "after the cubit of a man" (Deuteronomy 3:11), "after the first measure" (2 Chronicles 3:3), and "according to the measure of a man" (Revelation 21:17)

1 great cubit (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 20.307 inches (2.901 inches × 7 = 20.307) = 1.69225 foot (20.307 inches ÷ 12 = 1.69225) = 1 foot, 8.307 inches (0.69225 foot × 12 = 8.307) = 1 "great" (Ezekiel 41:8) cubit, and a "cubit and an hand breadth" (Ezekiel 40:5, 43:13)

1 full reed (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 121.842 inches (20.307 inches × 6 = 121.842) = 10.1535 feet (121.842 inches ÷ 12 = 10.1535) = 10 feet, 1.842 inch (0.1535 foot × 12 = 1.842) = 1 "full reed of six great cubits" (Ezekiel 41:8)

1 foot = 0.3048 meter
1 statute mile = 5,280 feet = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 nautical mile (1 statute mile = 1.609344 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1,852 meters = 1.852 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1.852 kilometer ÷ 1.609344 = 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 statute mile, 1 statute mile = 1 nautical mile ÷ 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051)

From the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, due east at sea level to the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 120 great cubits:
10 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:4 [20 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 40 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:2) + 20 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:49) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5]), including going down the 11 steps (Ezekiel 40:49, 41:8 [6 great cubits = 121.842 inches, 121.842 inches ÷ 11.604 inches (1 step) = 10.5 steps (121.842 inches), so you have to add another 0.5 step (5.802 inches), 10.5 steps (121.842 inches) + 0.5 step (5.802 inches) = 11 steps (127.644 inches or 10.637 feet)]) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) +1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) = 120 great cubits = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175 nautical mile (203.07 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile, 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175) = 203.07 feet (1.69225 foot × 120 = 203.07) = 61.895736 meters (203.07 feet × 0.3048 = 61.895736)

From the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, due north at sea level to the top of the Foundation Stone, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20) of the outer court of the temple, Latitude 31.778000° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 250 great cubits:
6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5 great cubits]) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:36) + 100 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:23), including going down the 8 steps (Ezekiel 40:37) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:21) = 250 great cubits = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile (423.0625 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile, 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114) = 423.0625 feet (1.69225 foot × 250 = 423.0625) = 128.94945 meters (423.0625 feet × 0.3048 = 128.94945)

The Foundation Stone of Jerusalem, Israel, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20), is position:
Latitude 31.778000° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.778000° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.778000° of latitude × 60 = 46.68’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.68’ of latitude × 60 = 40.8” of latitude

Longitude 035.235401° E = Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
0.235401° of longitude × 60 = 14.12406’ of longitude
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.12406’ of longitude × 60 = 7.4436” of longitude

60 nautical miles = 1° of latitude

0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile ÷ 60 = 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude
Latitude 31.778000° N - 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude = Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N

The center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.776839547786177105831533477322° of latitude × 60 = 46.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude × 60 = 36.6223720302375809935205183592” of latitude

π = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795

1° of longitude on a sphere at the Equator = 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles (360° of latitude × 60 = 21,600 nautical miles, 21,600 nautical miles × 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles, 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles ÷ 360 = 69.04676688141255070388928656645)

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N ÷ 180° = 0.17653799748770098392128629709623
0.17653799748770098392128629709623 × π = 0.55461047598681478619796532618491
Cos(0.55461047598681478619796532618491) (in Radians) = 0.85010563285640438109247192085087
0.85010563285640438109247192085087 × 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles = 58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles is the distance of 1° of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles is the distance of 1’ of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles is the distance of 1” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles × 5,280 = 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet
203.07 feet ÷ 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet = 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E - 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude = Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

The center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E = Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
60” of longitude = 1’ of longitude
5.0847620532989928817831453693454” of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude
60’ of longitude = 1° of longitude
14.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.23474576723702749802271754038037° of longitude
TL; DR.
 

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Fancy drawings prove nothing. Fancy drawings accompanied by assertions that a grade school student could refute prove the delusion of the one making the assertions.

The sun's path in relation to the earth's surface is one of the best-attested physical phenomena. Your map is inconsistent with it. If you're going to make assertions, at least be sure they don't directly contradict well-established and easily-observable facts.
 

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From the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, due east at sea level to the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 120 great cubits:
10 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:4 [20 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 40 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:2) + 20 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:49) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5]), including going down the 11 steps (Ezekiel 40:49, 41:8 [6 great cubits = 121.842 inches, 121.842 inches ÷ 11.604 inches (1 step) = 10.5 steps (121.842 inches), so you have to add another 0.5 step (5.802 inches), 10.5 steps (121.842 inches) + 0.5 step (5.802 inches) = 11 steps (127.644 inches or 10.637 feet)]) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) +1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) = 120 great cubits = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175 nautical mile (203.07 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile, 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175) = 203.07 feet (1.69225 foot × 120 = 203.07) = 61.895736 meters (203.07 feet × 0.3048 = 61.895736)
Ezekiel gives horizontal measures, and they are width/breadth, so you should halve them if you want their centerpoints -- and the measurements of the temple he saw in his vision are not representative of any of the temples that stood on the mount ((the one Ezekiel relates is larger)), and the center of the earth is a vertical measurement, not horizontal; mt. Zion is not the center of the earth.

so you have calculated meaningless things & your math is wrong.
 

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1 foot = 0.3048 meter
1 statute mile = 5,280 feet = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 nautical mile (1 statute mile = 1.609344 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1,852 meters = 1.852 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1.852 kilometer ÷ 1.609344 = 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 statute mile, 1 statute mile = 1 nautical mile ÷ 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051)
why did you even put this?

do these paragraphs have any useful function at all apart from filling the screen with repeated numbers?

1 inch = 1 inch = (1/1 + 1 - 1)*1 + 0 = 25.3 erg + (1 foot)/12 - 25.3erg = 1.000000000000000000000000000000 inch
 

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area of Brazil ~ 3.286 million square miles

area of USA ~ 3.797 million square miles


so in the map below the USA is colored blue and Brazil is colored green.
USA is supposed to be a bit bigger than Brazil.


it's not; Brazil is ~ 3 times bigger than USA on your map.

your map is wrong.
way wrong.
sorry.




world map revealed.jpg


((not really, fake sorry))
 

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Jesus put it on my heart to post the following:

The math to get the center of the map of the world (comment #1844, above):

Glory to God.

The length of a great cubit comes from the size of a Roman foot, that comes from the book:
A DISCOVRSE OF THE ROMANE FOOT, AND DENARIVS: From whence, as from two principles, THE MEASVRES, AND WEIGHTS, used by the Ancients, may be deduced. By JOHN GREAVES, Professor of Astronomy in the Vniversity of Oxford. LONDON, Printed by M.F. for William Lee, and are to be sold at his shop at the sign of the Turkshead in Fleet-street. 1647. (pages 22, 41)
1 Roman foot = 11.604 inches (1,934 ÷ 2,000 = 0.967, 0.967 × 12 = 11.604)

1 hand breadth = 2.901 inches (11.604 inches ÷ 4 = 2.901)
1 finger breadth = 0.72525 inch (2.901 inches ÷ 4 = 0.72525)
1 hand span (distance from the end of the thumb to the end of the little finger of a stretched out hand) = 8.703 inches (2.901 inches × 3 = 8.703)

1 cubit = 17.406 inches (2.901 inches × 6 = 17.406) = 1.4505 foot (17.406 inches ÷ 12 = 1.4505) = 1 foot, 5.406 inches (0.4505 foot × 12 = 5.406) = 1 cubit "after the cubit of a man" (Deuteronomy 3:11), "after the first measure" (2 Chronicles 3:3), and "according to the measure of a man" (Revelation 21:17)

1 great cubit (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 20.307 inches (2.901 inches × 7 = 20.307) = 1.69225 foot (20.307 inches ÷ 12 = 1.69225) = 1 foot, 8.307 inches (0.69225 foot × 12 = 8.307) = 1 "great" (Ezekiel 41:8) cubit, and a "cubit and an hand breadth" (Ezekiel 40:5, 43:13)

1 full reed (used for all of Ezekiel [chapters] 40 - 48) = 121.842 inches (20.307 inches × 6 = 121.842) = 10.1535 feet (121.842 inches ÷ 12 = 10.1535) = 10 feet, 1.842 inch (0.1535 foot × 12 = 1.842) = 1 "full reed of six great cubits" (Ezekiel 41:8)

1 foot = 0.3048 meter
1 statute mile = 5,280 feet = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 nautical mile (1 statute mile = 1.609344 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1,852 meters = 1.852 kilometer, 1 nautical mile = 1.852 kilometer ÷ 1.609344 = 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 statute mile, 1 statute mile = 1 nautical mile ÷ 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 0.86897624190064794816414686825051)

From the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, due east at sea level to the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 120 great cubits:
10 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:4 [20 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 40 great cubits (Ezekiel 41:2) + 20 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:49) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5]), including going down the 11 steps (Ezekiel 40:49, 41:8 [6 great cubits = 121.842 inches, 121.842 inches ÷ 11.604 inches (1 step) = 10.5 steps (121.842 inches), so you have to add another 0.5 step (5.802 inches), 10.5 steps (121.842 inches) + 0.5 step (5.802 inches) = 11 steps (127.644 inches or 10.637 feet)]) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) +1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) = 120 great cubits = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175 nautical mile (203.07 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile, 0.03846022727272727272727272727273 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.03342102375809935205183585313175) = 203.07 feet (1.69225 foot × 120 = 203.07) = 61.895736 meters (203.07 feet × 0.3048 = 61.895736)

From the center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.235401° E, due north at sea level to the top of the Foundation Stone, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20) of the outer court of the temple, Latitude 31.778000° N Longitude 035.235401° E, is 250 great cubits:
6 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:16 [12 great cubits ÷ 2]) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:14) + 1 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:13) + 14 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:17) + 0.5 great cubit (Ezekiel 43:17) + 26.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:47 [100 great cubits ÷ 2 = 50 great cubits, 50 great cubits - 23.5 great cubits (Ezekiel 43:13,14,16,17) = 26.5 great cubits]) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:36) + 100 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:23), including going down the 8 steps (Ezekiel 40:37) + 50 great cubits (Ezekiel 40:21) = 250 great cubits = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile (423.0625 feet ÷ 5,280 = 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile, 0.08012547348484848484848484848485 statute mile × 0.86897624190064794816414686825051 = 0.06962713282937365010799136069114) = 423.0625 feet (1.69225 foot × 250 = 423.0625) = 128.94945 meters (423.0625 feet × 0.3048 = 128.94945)

The Foundation Stone of Jerusalem, Israel, the “mountain” (Ezekiel 40:2, 43:12), the center of the outer side of the north “gate” (Ezekiel 40:3,20), is position:
Latitude 31.778000° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.778000° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 40.8” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.778000° of latitude × 60 = 46.68’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.68’ of latitude × 60 = 40.8” of latitude

Longitude 035.235401° E = Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
0.235401° of longitude × 60 = 14.12406’ of longitude
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.12406’ of longitude × 60 = 7.4436” of longitude

60 nautical miles = 1° of latitude

0.06962713282937365010799136069114 nautical mile ÷ 60 = 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude
Latitude 31.778000° N - 0.00116045221382289416846652267819° of latitude = Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N

The center of the temple altar, in the center of the inner court of the temple (Ezekiel 40:47, 43:13-17), is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.235401° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N = Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
1° of latitude = 60’ of latitude
0.776839547786177105831533477322° of latitude × 60 = 46.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude
1’ of latitude = 60” of latitude
0.61037286717062634989200863932’ of latitude × 60 = 36.6223720302375809935205183592” of latitude

π = 3.1415926535897932384626433832795

1° of longitude on a sphere at the Equator = 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles (360° of latitude × 60 = 21,600 nautical miles, 21,600 nautical miles × 1.1507794480235425117314881094409 = 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles, 24,856.836077308518253400143163923 statute miles ÷ 360 = 69.04676688141255070388928656645)

Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N ÷ 180° = 0.17653799748770098392128629709623
0.17653799748770098392128629709623 × π = 0.55461047598681478619796532618491
Cos(0.55461047598681478619796532618491) (in Radians) = 0.85010563285640438109247192085087
0.85010563285640438109247192085087 × 69.046766881412550703889286566453 statute miles = 58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles is the distance of 1° of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1° of longitude = 60’ of longitude
58.697045456411839126374149867866 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles is the distance of 1’ of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
1’ of longitude = 60” of longitude
0.97828409094019731877290249779777 statute miles ÷ 60 = 0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles is the distance of 1” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
0.01630473484900328864621504162996 statute miles × 5,280 = 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet
203.07 feet ÷ 86.089000002737364052015419806189 feet = 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude at Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035° 14’ 7.4436” E - 2.3588379467010071182168546306546” of longitude = Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

The center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple, is position:
Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N
Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E

Latitude 31° 46’ 36.6223720302375809935205183592” N
Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E

Longitude 035° 14’ 5.0847620532989928817831453693454” E = Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E
60” of longitude = 1’ of longitude
5.0847620532989928817831453693454” of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude
60’ of longitude = 1° of longitude
14.08474603422164988136305242282242’ of longitude ÷ 60 = 0.23474576723702749802271754038037° of longitude
One of your numbers is transposed.
 

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Dino, it would mean an open space where there are few trees or bushes, except God called the field the world. If you don't believe Jesus, that is between you and him.

Jesus said the field is the world. That is not difficult to understand. It is the truth, and I believe it.
So, you are saying that all fields are flat?
 

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Keep in mind that by hiding the fact that the earth is a closed system, solely created to house us humans along with its other lifeforms created by the God of the bible, they are hiding God.

They keep pushing the alien agenda, and the space agenda for a reason.... TO HIDE GOD.

It is a lot simpler to hide God by making us seem like a spec of dust in the universe as opposed to acknowledging the fact that we are it and that there is just earth, and everything revolves around it.

We are the creation, not an accident.
There is all kinds of interesting observational evidence to indicate that the earth is indeed the center of the universe. Seriously there's there's a strong case to be made.
 
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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun rises in the east, near Japan (Ecclesiastes 1:5, Joshua 10:12,13), along with the moon and the stars, being around 73 miles up when it begins to rise, and speeds up (Psalms 19:5, Judges 5:31), all the way until it gets exactly due south of Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple. From there, being around 100 miles up, it begins to go down, slowing down (in the west), all the way until it gets to the north where it sets. It then passes over the north and starts to rise again near Japan, every day.

The reason you see the sun and the moon, which are the same size (both "great lights" Genesis 1:16), along with the majority of the stars that also rise (a few of them don't near the Arctic Circle) the way you do is because of the way the firmament magnifies, and presents them at a high elevation angle (Job 37:18), along with the direction you see them from you, depending what longitude line (and where on that longitude line) you are on. The firmament, where God placed the sun, moon, and stars (Genesis 1:17) at the creation of the world, around 6,000 years ago, acts as a giant kaleidoscope, a mirror, above us.

The stars are the size of figs (Revelation 6:13, Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 12:1), that are lights inside of what would be the rib cage of the heavenly bodies (Job 38:7, Genesis 37:9 (Genesis 15:5), Judges 5:20, Revelation 1:20, 9:1, Daniel 8:10)

There is victory in Jesus Christ. If you have not given your life to Jesus Christ yet, you must be born again (John 3:3,5, Romans 10:9), then stay in that salvation, that is your very life, Jesus, forever. It is not you who will be doing it, but God that is inside of you, doing his own work. Glory to God Almighty, forever and ever.
 

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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun rises in the east, near Japan (Ecclesiastes 1:5, Joshua 10:12,13), along with the moon and the stars, being around 73 miles up when it begins to rise, and speeds up (Psalms 19:5, Judges 5:31), all the way until it gets exactly due south of Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple. From there, being around 100 miles up, it begins to go down, slowing down (in the west), all the way until it gets to the north where it sets. It then passes over the north and starts to rise again near Japan, every day.
You should try stand-up comedy; your material is already getting laughs.

The reason you see the sun and the moon, which are the same size (both "great lights" Genesis 1:16), along with the majority of the stars that also rise (a few of them don't near the Arctic Circle) the way you do is because of the way the firmament magnifies, and presents them at a high elevation angle (Job 37:18), along with the direction you see them from you, depending what longitude line (and where on that longitude line) you are on. The firmament, where God placed the sun, moon, and stars (Genesis 1:17) at the creation of the world, around 6,000 years ago, acts as a giant kaleidoscope, a mirror, above us.

The stars are the size of figs (Revelation 6:13, Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 12:1), that are lights inside of what would be the rib cage of the heavenly bodies (Job 38:7, Genesis 37:9 (Genesis 15:5), Judges 5:20, Revelation 1:20, 9:1, Daniel 8:10)
You need to get out of your mom's basement and go outside. Stop reading foolish flat-earth hogwash, and start reading elementary English, where you learn about figures of speech.

There is victory in Jesus Christ. If you have not given your life to Jesus Christ yet, you must be born again (John 3:3,5, Romans 10:9), then stay in that salvation, that is your very life, Jesus, forever. It is not you who will be doing it, but God that is inside of you, doing his own work. Glory to God Almighty, forever and ever.
At least there is some sense coming from you.
 

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Dino, it would mean an open space where there are few trees or bushes, except God called the field the world. If you don't believe Jesus, that is between you and him.

Jesus said the field is the world. That is not difficult to understand. It is the truth, and I believe it.
there happen to be a lot of trees and bushes in the world.
 

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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun rises in the east, near Japan (Ecclesiastes 1:5, Joshua 10:12,13), along with the moon and the stars, being around 73 miles up when it begins to rise, and speeds up (Psalms 19:5, Judges 5:31), all the way until it gets exactly due south of Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple. From there, being around 100 miles up, it begins to go down, slowing down (in the west), all the way until it gets to the north where it sets. It then passes over the north and starts to rise again near Japan, every day.

The reason you see the sun and the moon, which are the same size (both "great lights" Genesis 1:16), along with the majority of the stars that also rise (a few of them don't near the Arctic Circle) the way you do is because of the way the firmament magnifies, and presents them at a high elevation angle (Job 37:18), along with the direction you see them from you, depending what longitude line (and where on that longitude line) you are on. The firmament, where God placed the sun, moon, and stars (Genesis 1:17) at the creation of the world, around 6,000 years ago, acts as a giant kaleidoscope, a mirror, above us.

The stars are the size of figs (Revelation 6:13, Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 12:1), that are lights inside of what would be the rib cage of the heavenly bodies (Job 38:7, Genesis 37:9 (Genesis 15:5), Judges 5:20, Revelation 1:20, 9:1, Daniel 8:10)

There is victory in Jesus Christ. If you have not given your life to Jesus Christ yet, you must be born again (John 3:3,5, Romans 10:9), then stay in that salvation, that is your very life, Jesus, forever. It is not you who will be doing it, but God that is inside of you, doing his own work. Glory to God Almighty, forever and ever.
the only thing that is required to be a Christian is belief and trust in Jesus as Lord and Savior.

not belief in a flat earth.
 

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in his time that was how everyone saw creation.
that's often repeated but it simply isn't true.

Jews didn't care about the shape of the world. the only astronomy they participated in was observing the moon in order to mark the days of their calendar. but Jews were Hellenized, and the Greeks had known as early as the 5th century BC that the earth is a globe.

while it's true that among some superstitious pagans there was still a rudimentary, ignorant view of the place in which they lived, when it comes to those with actual experimental and observational knowledge, for hundreds of years before the incarnation of Christ mankind knew with certainty that the earth is a globe.

He came at just the right time.
 
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My brothers and sisters in Jesus Christ, the sun rises in the east, near Japan (Ecclesiastes 1:5, Joshua 10:12,13), along with the moon and the stars, being around 73 miles up when it begins to rise, and speeds up (Psalms 19:5, Judges 5:31), all the way until it gets exactly due south of Latitude 31.776839547786177105831533477322° N Longitude 035.23474576723702749802271754038037° E, the center of the world, the top of mount Zion, the center of “the most holy place” (Ezekiel 41:4) of the temple. From there, being around 100 miles up, it begins to go down, slowing down (in the west), all the way until it gets to the north where it sets. It then passes over the north and starts to rise again near Japan, every day.

The reason you see the sun and the moon, which are the same size (both "great lights" Genesis 1:16), along with the majority of the stars that also rise (a few of them don't near the Arctic Circle) the way you do is because of the way the firmament magnifies, and presents them at a high elevation angle (Job 37:18), along with the direction you see them from you, depending what longitude line (and where on that longitude line) you are on. The firmament, where God placed the sun, moon, and stars (Genesis 1:17) at the creation of the world, around 6,000 years ago, acts as a giant kaleidoscope, a mirror, above us.

The stars are the size of figs (Revelation 6:13, Isaiah 34:4, Revelation 1:16,20, 2:1, 12:1), that are lights inside of what would be the rib cage of the heavenly bodies (Job 38:7, Genesis 37:9 (Genesis 15:5), Judges 5:20, Revelation 1:20, 9:1, Daniel 8:10)

There is victory in Jesus Christ. If you have not given your life to Jesus Christ yet, you must be born again (John 3:3,5, Romans 10:9), then stay in that salvation, that is your very life, Jesus, forever. It is not you who will be doing it, but God that is inside of you, doing his own work. Glory to God Almighty, forever and ever.
Gen. 1:16 Then God made two great lights: the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night. He made the stars also.