CESSATIONISM AND HEALING

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When Paul could no longer heal? Hmmm...where did you get this strange information?
Sign & paul & doctors are primarily for unbelievers not for christians. Christians have to learn to believe Christ's cross for healing.
 

Blain

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Wasn't epaphroditus leaked by faith in Christ's cross? Doctors are for the unbelievers.
You know it was doctors that saved my life when I had cancer, it doctors who are going to the extremes to save my eyes even willing to pay out of their own pockets and who do think is draining themselves and risking death in virus outbreak?
I am all in when it comes to God for me he is my passion and I will go to hell and back if it means I can finally have his heart but I will not stand here while slander these peoples you are not better than them and fwi not all doctors are unsaved. In fact they more of God's work than a lot of people which is why he uses them so much my sister is a nurse and everyday I worry for her because she is always exposed to this virus but she saves lives it is her passion.

So with all do respect please be more mindful of what you say
 
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You know it was doctors that saved my life when I had cancer, it doctors who are going to the extremes to save my eyes even willing to pay out of their own pockets and who do think is draining themselves and risking death in virus outbreak?
I am all in when it comes to God for me he is my passion and I will go to hell and back if it means I can finally have his heart but I will not stand here while slander these peoples you are not better than them and fwi not all doctors are unsaved. In fact they more of God's work than a lot of people which is why he uses them so much my sister is a nurse and everyday I worry for her because she is always exposed to this virus but she saves lives it is her passion.

So with all do respect please be more mindful of what you say
Doctors didn't save you. They treated you. Christ's blood healed you.
Without faith, even if you descend into hell & rise up, God isn't pleased.
 

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Doctors didn't save you. They treated you. Christ's blood healed you.
Without faith, even if you descend into hell & rise up, God isn't pleased.
I had Leukemia and I was not saved. I had almost no hope of surviving and the doctors still didn't give up yes they treated me and cured me but back then I was only 12 I couldn't have cared less about God back then. But God did use them to heal me and let me tell you the healing was not easy.
I shouldn't even be alive but because those docotrs gave everything they had I was allowed to live. God does heal but not always in the ways we expect
 
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I had Leukemia and I was not saved. I had almost no hope of surviving and the doctors still didn't give up yes they treated me and cured me but back then I was only 12 I couldn't have cared less about God back then. But God did use them to heal me and let me tell you the healing was not easy.
I shouldn't even be alive but because those docotrs gave everything they had I was allowed to live. God does heal but not always in the ways we expect
God's sovereignty works through faith. If you don't acknowledge that, God isn't pleased. "for whatsoever is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23)".

The efforts of doctors comes from God's sovereignty. Glorify God.
 

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God's sovereignty works through faith. If you don't acknowledge that, God isn't pleased. "for whatsoever is not of faith is sin (Romans 14:23)".

The efforts of doctors comes from God's sovereignty. Glorify God.
Then why did you say doctors are for unbelievers?
 
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Then why did you say doctors are for unbelievers?
If christians trust in doctors, glorify them and grow in faith, God isn't pleased. Faith in Christ's cross can heal any disease without any doctors assistance.

Unbelievers have no faith and so they glorify doctors.
 

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If christians trust in doctors, glorify them and grow in faith, God isn't pleased. Faith in Christ's cross can heal any disease without any doctors assistance.

Unbelievers have no faith and so they glorify doctors.
Well honestly I always hated to go to the doctors and few people seem to enjoy going there. Honestly until this outbreak happened I think nurses and doctors were anything but glorified they seemed to be ignored as far as importance goes.

Although same thing with a lot things I think, I mean people weren't big on cleanliness until now
 
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Well honestly I always hated to go to the doctors and few people seem to enjoy going there. Honestly until this outbreak happened I think nurses and doctors were anything but glorified they seemed to be ignored as far as importance goes.

Although same thing with a lot things I think, I mean people weren't big on cleanliness until now
When God sent the 10 plagues to almost exterminate egypt, nothing mattered except Christ's blood signified by the lamb's blood.
 
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https://www.redletterchristians.org/

Those that made Jesus words in the 4 gospels, which are in red in some bibles, their central doctrine for themselves.
Those christians trust in the law to remedy society. I trust in Christ's righteousness signified by His blood to remedy any problem.

Now, let's prevent christians from seeking benny hinn, t.b.joshua etc for healing by teaching them faith for healing.
 
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Those christians trust in the law to remedy society. I trust in Christ's righteousness signified by His blood to remedy any problem.

Now, let's prevent christians from seeking benny hinn, t.b.joshua etc for healing by teaching them faith for healing.
You are de-emphasizing Paul, even though the ascended Christ raised him to be YOUR apostle.
 
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You are de-emphasizing Paul, even though the ascended Christ raised him to be YOUR apostle.
Through Spirit, the ascended Christ also mentioned about paul in 2 Corinthians 11:17,
 
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Through Spirit, the ascended Christ also mentioned about paul in 2 Corinthians 11:17,
The Jews also spoke against Moses too, and wanted God to speak to them thru others. What happened to them?
 
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Im sorry i dont know what rhe first word means , but does God heal today YES im a walking miracle i was paralysed when i broke my back i tried stranding once nothing below the waist tried again nothing below thw waist no pain felt normal i tried again boom i could move 3 times ( now take what i say anyway u want i dont care but it was like 1 the Father 2. Then Son 3.the Holy Spirit an i stumbled near 2miles for help my doctors couldn't believe with the impact i didn't braeak my heels i crushed my L1 an fractured my L2 they said its a MIRACLE you can walk id never heard doctors use that word but its been a while an i am.healed , my depression i suffered as i broke my back 8wks after my Mother passed 9months later my father passed 3 months later my younger brother passed i was in a low place my doctor wanted to give me anti depressants i said no an believed only 1 person could heal me an he did he sent 1 spirt led.obedient person to remind me.who i was an grieving time was over when they left i was on my knees in tears an when i srood up depression, anxiety gone an as we know our Lord is LOVE HE GAVE ME PEACE AND JOY IM SO THANKFUL FOR WHAT HE DID I STOOD ON FAITH I CAN CARRY ON BUT I WONT, GOD IS THE SAME THEN , NOW AND TOMORROW CAN WE HEAL OTHERS? YOU AWARE THE POWER WE HAVE IN OUR WORDS SO YES HE CAN HEAL AND WE CAN HEAL ALLOWING HIM TO USE HIS AWESOME POWER THROUGH US ALL BE THE GLORY TO GOD THE ALPHA AND OMEGA AND I AM HEALED ALSO AS I WAS BLIND BUT NOW I SEE AMAZING GRACE PRAISE JESUS
 
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Im sorry i dont know what rhe first word means , but does God heal today YES im a walking miracle i was paralysed when i broke my back i tried stranding once nothing below the waist tried again nothing below thw waist no pain felt normal i tried again boom i could move 3 times ( now take what i say anyway u want i dont care but it was like 1 the Father 2. Then Son 3.the Holy Spirit an i stumbled near 2miles for help my doctors couldn't believe with the impact i didn't braeak my heels i crushed my L1 an fractured my L2 they said its a MIRACLE you can walk id never heard doctors use that word but its been a while an i am.healed , my depression i suffered as i broke my back 8wks after my Mother passed 9months later my father passed 3 months later my younger brother passed i was in a low place my doctor wanted to give me anti depressants i said no an believed only 1 person could heal me an he did he sent 1 spirt led.obedient person to remind me.who i was an grieving time was over when they left i was on my knees in tears an when i srood up depression, anxiety gone an as we know our Lord is LOVE HE GAVE ME PEACE AND JOY IM SO THANKFUL FOR WHAT HE DID I STOOD ON FAITH I CAN CARRY ON BUT I WONT, GOD IS THE SAME THEN , NOW AND TOMORROW CAN WE HEAL OTHERS? YOU AWARE THE POWER WE HAVE IN OUR WORDS SO YES HE CAN HEAL AND WE CAN HEAL ALLOWING HIM TO USE HIS AWESOME POWER THROUGH US ALL BE THE GLORY TO GOD THE ALPHA AND OMEGA AND I AM HEALED ALSO AS I WAS BLIND BUT NOW I SEE AMAZING GRACE PRAISE JESUS
So you were healed by faith in Christ's blood?
Why do christians seek after miracles when they should be believing Christ for healing?
 
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Doctors didn't save you. They treated you. Christ's blood healed you.
Without faith, even if you descend into hell & rise up, God isn't pleased.
I think you meant Christ's Spirit heals us. God in not a man . Literal blood without a spirit returns to the clay of the field

He heals all by a work of faith or labor of his love. He moves the mind to invent cures as well as steading the hand and works out his good purposes in other ways "not seen" .

God in no way shape or form is not served by human hands or human mind .

Words of the gospel they are spirit and life.

When men attribute the work of the word of God the gospel to the corrupted hands of men.

Men with no faith make the apostles into gods in the likeness of men (Acts14) blasphemy.