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Lightskin said:
Psst, here’s a reality check: you’re not perfect.
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2 Timothy 3:16-17
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Any teaching that causes you to say things contrary to scripture should give you pause.
 
mailmandan said:
These are those who practice such sins/unbelievers (Galatians 5:19-21) and is not talking about a believer who temporarily stumbles.
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If a man, who has never committed a crime, never been arrested, if this law abiding citizen commits murder; does the court release this man and let him go free because he has not been a practitioner of murder?

And do think that God, who is all knowing, will let a believer off the hook simply because he is a not practitioner of sin, but only sins once in a while?
 
Micaiah-imla said:
2 Timothy 3:16-17
[16] All scripture is given by inspiration of God, and is profitable for doctrine, for reproof, for correction, for instruction in righteousness: [17] That the man of God may be perfect, throughly furnished unto all good works.

Any teaching that causes you to say things contrary to scripture should give you pause.
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We’re made perfect through Jesus Christ, not of our own accord. Once again, it’s my pleasure to welcome you to reality.
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
If a man, who has never committed a crime, never been arrested, if this law abiding citizen commits murder; does the court release this man and let him go free because he has not been a practitioner of murder?

And do think that God, who is all knowing, will let a believer off the hook simply because he is a not practitioner of sin, but only sins once in a while?
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So God only saves those who never sin at all? Read 1 John 1:8-10; 2:1. Jesus is our advocate. There is a difference between practicing sin (no repentance, no goal or effort to stop, just bring on the sin) and sinning intermittently/temporarily stumbling.
 
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EleventhHour said:
Hence you must add to the work of Christ Jesus.
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2 Peter 1:5-7,10
[5] And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; [6] And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; [7] And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. [10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall
 
Micaiah-imla said:
If a man, who has never committed a crime, never been arrested, if this law abiding citizen commits murder; does the court release this man and let him go free because he has not been a practitioner of murder?

And do think that God, who is all knowing, will let a believer off the hook simply because he is a not practitioner of sin, but only sins once in a while?
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Do you even understand the Gospel and the atonement and the propitiation for our sins?
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
2 Peter 1:5-7,10
[5] And beside this, giving all diligence, add to your faith virtue; and to virtue knowledge; [6] And to knowledge temperance; and to temperance patience; and to patience godliness; [7] And to godliness brotherly kindness; and to brotherly kindness charity. [10] Wherefore the rather, brethren, give diligence to make your calling and election sure: for if ye do these things, ye shall never fall
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I am really sorry but you do not understand the Gospel, if you think this verse is referencing how to be saved.
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
If a man, who has never committed a crime, never been arrested, if this law abiding citizen commits murder; does the court release this man and let him go free because he has not been a practitioner of murder?

And do think that God, who is all knowing, will let a believer off the hook simply because he is a not practitioner of sin, but only sins once in a while?
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It’s always about rape and murder with these worker bee salvationists, and never about breaking the speed limit. And yes, God’s grace is afforded to believers who sin. It’s simply astonishing that people don’t understand the very basics of grace.
 
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Lightskin said:
I’m going to cut my neighbor’s grass today. That should cover me for at least two weeks.
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I think I explained this to you before, but I will give it one more try...... that will only cover while you cut the grass, once you are finished its game over.

Sorry but the is the harsh reality. :(

Works only atone while one is engaged in such works.. why do you think Mother Teresa had to devote her whole life!!!!
 
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Micaiah-imla said:
Jesus himself said this:

Matthew 5:48
[48] Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.

He did not say, You’ll be perfect through me (so don’t even try it).
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Being perfect in Him is exactly what He means. Having faith in Him is what makes us perfect in God’s eyes. On another note, the Scripture which you quoted from Matthew, uses the word merciful in Luke. Be merciful as your Father in Heaven is merciful.
 
EleventhHour said:
I think I explained this to you before, but I will give it one more try...... that will only cover while you cut the grass, once you are finished its game over.

Sorry but the is the harsh reality. :(

Works only atone while one is engaged in such works.. why do you think Mother Teresa had to devote her whole life!!!!
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What if I walk from New Jersey to Toronto in order to cut your grass? Am I covered while I’m actually walking to cut your grass?
 
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