Is it possible for this to be bible prophecy?

[planitsoon]

So it is sign of

Matt 24

12 And because iniquity shall abound, the love of many shall wax cold.

Not pestilance, but no love so people cheat other

IT WAS a sign of Matthew 24 back then. Read verse 34 again. It applied to that generation 2000 years ago as Jesus referred to His direct audience when He said: "Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place". The term also appears in all these other verses below and in every single instance the verse refers to Jesus generation of Jews back then.including the very clear verse in Luke 17:25 where it says:" But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by "this generation". He is not going to suffer again as His sacrifice was ones and for all. While we have seen the love of many grow cold over the centuries, the context is history for us who live 2000 years later.

• Matthew 11:16
  “But to what shall I liken this generation? It is like children sitting in the marketplaces and calling to their companions,
  Matthew 12:41
  The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, because they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.
  Matthew 12:42
  The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.
  Matthew 12:45
  Then he goes and takes with him seven other spirits more wicked than himself, and they enter and dwell there; and the last state of that man is worse than the first. So shall it also be with this wicked generation.”
  Matthew 23:36
  Assuredly, I say to you, all these things will come upon this generation.
  Matthew 24:34
  Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
  Mark 8:12
  But He sighed deeply in His spirit, and said, “Why does this generation seek a sign? Assuredly, I say to you, no sign shall be given to this generation.”
  Mark 8:38
  For whoever is ashamed of Me and My words in this adulterous and sinful generation, of him the Son of Man also will be ashamed when He comes in the glory of His Father with the holy angels.”
  Mark 13:30
  Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all these things take place.
  Luke 7:31
  And the Lord said, “To what then shall I liken the men of this generation, and what are they like?
  Luke 11:29
  And while the crowds were thickly gathered together, He began to say, “This is an evil generation. It seeks a sign, and no sign will be given to it except the sign of Jonah the prophet.
  Luke 11:30
  For as Jonah became a sign to the Ninevites, so also the Son of Man will be to this generation.
  Luke 11:31
  The queen of the South will rise up in the judgment with the men of this generation and condemn them, for she came from the ends of the earth to hear the wisdom of Solomon; and indeed a greater than Solomon is here.
  Luke 11:32
  The men of Nineveh will rise up in the judgment with this generation and condemn it, for they repented at the preaching of Jonah; and indeed a greater than Jonah is here.
  Luke 11:50
  that the blood of all the prophets which was shed from the foundation of the world may be required of this generation,
  Luke 11:51
  from the blood of Abel to the blood of Zechariah who perished between the altar and the temple. Yes, I say to you, it shall be required of this generation.
  Luke 16:8
  So the master commended the unjust steward because he had dealt shrewdly. For the sons of this world are more shrewd in their generation than the sons of light.
  Luke 17:25
  But first He must suffer many things and be rejected by this generation.
  Luke 21:32
  Assuredly, I say to you, this generation will by no means pass away till all things take place.
  Acts 2:40
  And with many other words he testified and exhorted them, saying, “Be saved from this perverse generation.”
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  
  

 

[Yahshua]

So this virus is something we have not experienced at least not my generation saars was a thing but not near as deadly as this virus . And I am sure this question has been asked before but if this virus is indeed bible prophecy being fulfilled then should we be paying more attention to the signs? This is not meant to be a doctrine debate but rather one where we put our heads together and figure out how close revlations being fulfilled really is. Yes revelations speaks of plagues but that also has been going on for the longest time but Revelations also has some high points and when it has highpoints it's not a normal average thing it is almost like it's saying hey pay attention.

As for this virus itself personally I don't think it is an actual prophecy itself but it might be possible that it is God's warning to pay attention and wake up. So there is something in particular that I noticed today and that is
The Sixth Trumpet
…17Now the horses and riders in my vision looked like this: The riders had breastplates the colors of fire, sapphire, and sulfur. The heads of the horses were like the heads of lions, and out of their mouths proceeded fire, smoke, and sulfur. 18A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke, and brimstone that proceeded from their mouths. 19For the power of the horses was in their mouths and in their tails; indeed, their tails were like snakes, having heads with which to inflict harm.


Now concerning the sixth trumpet I am by no means trying to say we are at any point of the prophecy of revelation I simply want to discuss all these things. However I know there are things called super volcano's and if they were to erupt it would be absolutely devastating to the earth it might even be one of the worst natural disasters we will ever see and the scary thing is these things are long overdue to explode. The scripture described the horses and their riders in a way that seems more like symbolism than a face value actual thing.

and then I thought these things actually seem very much like a massive erupting volcano. the head of a lion could represent the viciousness and the loud terrifying roar of a lion and it says the power of the horses was in their mouths and tail as well which actually makes sense because volcano's have veins like many winding tails and the mouth of a volcano sounds and appears exactly like a roaring lion and not mention it speaks of fire smoke sapphire and brimstone what do all these thing have in common with volcanoes? Everything actually, the fire of lava the smell of brimstone that is in active volcano's and sapphire and all kind of gems are found in volcano's. and if a super volcano erupted all these things would flood everywhere lsuddenly very loudly and very very powerfully, the sky of possibly even the whole world would be covered in ash and soot blocking the sun and the moon and the stars from view drastically lowering the temperature and poisoning the lungs of people who breath it as it would be in the air we breath itself.

I believe that every worldwide event is authorized by the Almighty because He's sovereign.

I also believe that He doesn't do anything before first revealing it to His servants, which means this virus is in prophecy.

It's also important to remember the example we were given about these events being "birth pangs". And if we follow the example of a woman in labor, birth pangs don't just happen once but are progressive, increasing in frequent and intensity until the birth.

Some of us believe pestilence (4th seal) was already released as far back as 70AD, while others believe it's still future. Either way, we all agree that it was something meant to affect the whole world...which is what we're seeing today with this and other viruses.

So yes I think it's a sign to pay attention to. We're in the book of Revelation right now.

 

[biker]

not to be argumentative, but this is not correct. The "plain old flu" virus mutates and changes every year. That is why the flu vaccine has to be updated yearly. That is what viruses do... they change/mutate/evolve.

Yes, every year, but this virus is mutating on the fly within a matter of days.

 

[Yahshua]

If this is a wake up call from God then people are not waking up. Even on this site some are calling it a Hoax or some political plot to
destroy America. In the UK and elsewhere a small minority are still ignoring Government warnings and having picnics in parks as if
nothing has happened despite the growing death toll.

Yeah I had a conversation with family about whether this a hoax or government manufactured disease or whether it was "naturally" formed, and I think that from our perspective - as believers in spiritual things - it shouldn't really matter to us because the Almighty is in control and uses whatever He sees fit to affect His will.

For example, we know that when He punished Israel "with the rod" He actually used a foreign nation to conquer them. Secular folks would say, "Israel was simply invaded by a stronger army. There were politics involved." Meanwhile, a prophet would say," no the Almighty removed his hedge from Israel for disobedience."

One sees with natural eyes while the other sees the same event with spiritual eyes. And both perspectives are true.

So in heaven we see the lamb crack open the 4th seal and then see a pale horseman charge forth...but on earth it could manifest as an accident with a viral experiment or sickly pigs or tainted food or a strategic release of a bio weapon to quell daily protests that spirals out of control and spreads worldwide.

 

[Yahshua]

We watch and wait. It is certain you have been given food for thought here, thank you.
It seems a lot of what is possibly "building up" to certain event foretold in the Word are not being disseminated in the news. There are more earthquakes and volcanic eruptions around this world, people are "running to and fro", knowledge has devinitely been increased though I see public education of th emasses is failing by th week, and more.

For the time being it is my understanding and belief that most of the attention-getting events around this world are man being allowed to err for not hearing nor having God in mind. God is allowing, not doing.

When it all begins those who love evil will not understand while those with wisdome (faih) will understand and be prepared. All blessings in the preparation to all who are truly in Jesus-Yeshua, amen.

Yes. So many fulfilled signs that were prophesied in scripture are not being reported publically.

- The dead sea is being purified and actually has life in it now

- The saudi arabian desert is blooming

- there's been a locust plague running out of control in the middle east, asia, and now Africa that's being overshadowed by this coronavirus right now

- rivers have been turning to blood

- uncontrollable fires in Australia

- we've been seeing weird weather increase that they're calling planet change now

- Damascus has been ruined with constant war

...so yeah, there are so many signs occurring

 

[biker]

Yes. So many fulfilled signs that were prophesied in scripture are not being reported publically.

- The dead sea is being purified and actually has life in it now

- The saudi arabian desert is blooming

- there's been a locust plague running out of control in the middle east, asia, and now Africa that's being overshadowed by this coronavirus right now

- rivers have been turning to blood

- uncontrollable fires in Australia

- we've been seeing weird weather increase that they're calling planet change now

- Damascus has been ruined with constant war

...so yeah, there are so many signs occurring

Spot on!

It amazes me how we choose to decide what is a Plague vs was is a natural occurrence. The vast majority of members on this site could barely pass the prelims to basic Science, but yet will speak as though they are the great authority. With what is currently happening now, even those intelligent minds within Science are puzzled. When Science is upended, you know it is Almighty Yahweh in action. Only He can confuse the wise!

 

[Blain]

Sorry for the late reply everyone, I appreciate everyones input and for those who misunderstood I was not saying the virus is a part of God's wrath or aside from the plagues and pestilence I don't really think it is a specific point in prophecy rather I was thinking it might be part of prophecy in which God is trying to get people to pay attention.

Ever since 2020 began I had a feeling inside that a dark storm was coming and while this virus is indeed a dark storm I feel like something else is on it's way and that we need to wake up and pay more attention to the signs and this virus might be that wake up call even if it falls on deaf ears.

Of course this is just a feeling and I have no proof to validate it, but this feeling has not gone away I don't even know what it would be but I just feel like something is approaching and it's approaching quicker and quicker

 

[MessageOfTheCross]

And of the children of Issachar, which were men that had understanding of the times, to know what Israel ought to do; the heads of them were two hundred; and all their brethren were at their commandment. 1 Chronicles 12:32

We are in the days of "Lot," (coming soon the Rapture). The last of the last days of the Church age.

If the calendars are right, the church is now 1,987 years old. The church began on the day of Pentecost, which was some 33 years after the birth of Christ. So, we deduct 33 years from 2020, which gives us the number of 1,987 as it regards the age of the modern church. In other words, we are living in the last days of the church age, which means that Bible prophecy concerning end-time events is about to happen. As it regards the work of God on this earth, every 2,000 years or every 1000 years something tremendous has taken place. Momentous things most definitely happened at other times, but hallmark events took place at the time frames mentioned.

"This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come. For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy, Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good, Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God; Having a form of Godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away (II Tim. 3:1-5).

The Bible doesn’t teach that the situation is going to get better and better, but, as stated here, worse and worse. It also teaches, as we see from Verse 5, that the Church will go into total apostasy. It will have, and presently has, “a form of Godliness, but denies the power thereof.”

What does “denying the power thereof” mean?

Paul said, “For the preaching of the Cross is to them who perish foolishness; but unto us which are saved, it is the Power of God” (I Cor. 1:18).

The Church is in apostasy; it has fallen asleep. The Church faith is not in Christ and Him Crucified, but only Christ. In other words they are proclaiming Christ while forsaking the Cross (the Blood of Jesus). Which is another Jesus. It has made a covenant with the Evil One, and the price is the blindness of the right eye, spiritually speaking; now they cannot see what is right or what is wrong (I Sam. 11:1-2). No covenant can be made with Satan — not of any nature. If we make anything the object of our faith other than Christ and His Cross, we are, in effect, whether we realize it or not, making a covenant with Satan.

As stated, the Church has already apostatized. The Church Age opened with Christ standing in the midst of the candlesticks, in which the candlesticks represent the Church (Rev. 1:12-13). At the close of the Church Age, which pertains to the present time, we no longer find Christ in the midst of the Church, but rather outside, knocking on the door, trying to get in (Rev. 3:17-20). The Lord is, in fact, no longer dealing with the institutionalized Church as a whole, but rather with individuals only.

“If any man hear My Voice, and open the door, I will come in to him, and will sup with him, and he with Me” (Rev. 3:20). So, who presently is saved?

As there was a “Remnant” in Israel who were saved, meaning that most were lost, likewise, there also is a “Remnant” in the modern Church who are saved, but only a Remnant. Israel had rejected much of that which was of the Lord, but when they rejected the Cross, there was nothing left. They were cut off. The modern Church has done the same thing. It has rejected much which is of the Lord, but now it is rejecting the Cross. As with Israel, if the Cross is rejected, that means the Righteousness of God is rejected, and that means the Church is also cut off — except for the “Remnant.”

Are you in the Remnant?

The only way that anyone can be in the Remnant is by accepting Christ and what Christ did at the Cross. There is no other way!"’

Many shall be purified, and made white, and tried; but the wicked shall do wickedly: and none of the wicked shall understand; but the wise shall understand” (Dan. 12:3, 10).

Pastor Curtis

 

[JeremiahsCup]

Sorry for the late reply everyone, I appreciate everyones input and for those who misunderstood I was not saying the virus is a part of God's wrath or aside from the plagues and pestilence I don't really think it is a specific point in prophecy rather I was thinking it might be part of prophecy in which God is trying to get people to pay attention.

Ever since 2020 began I had a feeling inside that a dark storm was coming and while this virus is indeed a dark storm I feel like something else is on it's way and that we need to wake up and pay more attention to the signs and this virus might be that wake up call even if it falls on deaf ears.

Of course this is just a feeling and I have no proof to validate it, but this feeling has not gone away I don't even know what it would be but I just feel like something is approaching and it's approaching quicker and quicker

2020 is indeed a definitive decade. This is a decade to both make and to break the generations of shame. Praise God for his will shall be accomplished in the name of Jesus, amen.

 

[Blain]

2020 is indeed a definitive decade. This is a decade to both make and to break the generations of shame. Praise God for his will shall be accomplished in the name of Jesus, amen.

So what do you think? is this just a feeling on a whim or is maybe God speaking to those who are listening? And if something really is coming what might it possibly be?

 

[JeremiahsCup]

So what do you think? is this just a feeling on a whim or is maybe God speaking to those who are listening? And if something really is coming what might it possibly be?

Your feelings are clouding your vision, you need to learn to remove the emotions and sensuality, which are feelings. Though don't take that badly as a condemnation, but as a helpful advice for it is notable that God allowed you to perceive as much as you have. God indeed has determined this decade to be as it is, a definitive time to make and to break the generations alive because of the shamefulness of the many and the purity of the few. You are trying to look ahead at something coming, again this is the blindness of feelings, look, the decade of decisions is here even right now.

 

[Blain]

Your feelings are clouding your vision, you need to learn to remove the emotions and sensuality, which are feelings. Though don't take that badly as a condemnation, but as a helpful advice for it is notable that God allowed you to perceive as much as you have. God indeed has determined this decade to be as it is, a definitive time to make and to break the generations alive because of the shamefulness of the many and the purity of the few. You are trying to look ahead at something coming, again this is the blindness of feelings, look, the decade of decisions is here even right now.

Thank you for the advice I will take it to heart. Oh yes also about the scripture I discussed in my op What do you think? Could actually be describing a volcano or am I just picking at straws?

 

[wolfwint]

So this virus is something we have not experienced at least not my generation saars was a thing but not near as deadly as this virus . And I am sure this question has been asked before but if this virus is indeed bible prophecy being fulfilled then should we be paying more attention to the signs? This is not meant to be a doctrine debate but rather one where we put our heads together and figure out how close revlations being fulfilled really is. Yes revelations speaks of plagues but that also has been going on for the longest time but Revelations also has some high points and when it has highpoints it's not a normal average thing it is almost like it's saying hey pay attention.

As for this virus itself personally I don't think it is an actual prophecy itself but it might be possible that it is God's warning to pay attention and wake up. So there is something in particular that I noticed today and that is
The Sixth Trumpet
…17Now the horses and riders in my vision looked like this: The riders had breastplates the colors of fire, sapphire, and sulfur. The heads of the horses were like the heads of lions, and out of their mouths proceeded fire, smoke, and sulfur. 18A third of mankind was killed by the three plagues of fire, smoke, and brimstone that proceeded from their mouths. 19For the power of the horses was in their mouths and in their tails; indeed, their tails were like snakes, having heads with which to inflict harm.


Now concerning the sixth trumpet I am by no means trying to say we are at any point of the prophecy of revelation I simply want to discuss all these things. However I know there are things called super volcano's and if they were to erupt it would be absolutely devastating to the earth it might even be one of the worst natural disasters we will ever see and the scary thing is these things are long overdue to explode. The scripture described the horses and their riders in a way that seems more like symbolism than a face value actual thing.

and then I thought these things actually seem very much like a massive erupting volcano. the head of a lion could represent the viciousness and the loud terrifying roar of a lion and it says the power of the horses was in their mouths and tail as well which actually makes sense because volcano's have veins like many winding tails and the mouth of a volcano sounds and appears exactly like a roaring lion and not mention it speaks of fire smoke sapphire and brimstone what do all these thing have in common with volcanoes? Everything actually, the fire of lava the smell of brimstone that is in active volcano's and sapphire and all kind of gems are found in volcano's. and if a super volcano erupted all these things would flood everywhere lsuddenly very loudly and very very powerfully, the sky of possibly even the whole world would be covered in ash and soot blocking the sun and the moon and the stars from view drastically lowering the temperature and poisoning the lungs of people who breath it as it would be in the air we breath itself.

The people 100 years ago thought maby the same about the spanish Influenza which killes worlwide more people then the WW I. Around 25 Millions minimum. I would be careful with such suggestions. What the people will face during the tribulationtime the mankind did not saw before,except the flood.

 

[JeremiahsCup]

Thank you for the advice I will take it to heart. Oh yes also about the scripture I discussed in my op What do you think? Could actually be describing a volcano or am I just picking at straws?

They are not volcanoes. What they are is described in the book of Revelation, chapter 9, and they are what they are described as.

 

[Blain]

They are not volcanoes. What they are is described in the book of Revelation, chapter 9, and they are what they are described as.

Ok I understand, I just thought since there is so much symbolism in revelation and how it described everything that a volcano has and does it might have been a super volcano

 

[tourist]

I believe that every worldwide event is authorized by the Almighty because He's sovereign.

I also believe that He doesn't do anything before first revealing it to His servants, which means this virus is in prophecy.

It's also important to remember the example we were given about these events being "birth pangs". And if we follow the example of a woman in labor, birth pangs don't just happen once but are progressive, increasing in frequent and intensity until the birth.

Some of us believe pestilence (4th seal) was already released as far back as 70AD, while others believe it's still future. Either way, we all agree that it was something meant to affect the whole world...which is what we're seeing today with this and other viruses.

So yes I think it's a sign to pay attention to. We're in the book of Revelation right now.

I agree with your estimation that the book of Revelation is starting to unfold. I believe that every event, regardless of how minor or major it may seem is authorized by God. That is not to say however that God condones each and every event but it will ultimately benefit us or someone else and give glory to God.