Why Millennialism Remains.

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John146

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“Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne; He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.” Acts 2:30–31 (KJV 1900)
Finish the thought...sit on my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool. This is future. Let all the house of Israel know. That’s God’s physical people Israel according to the flesh.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
 
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Finish the thought...sit on my right hand until I make thy enemies thy footstool. This is future. Let all the house of Israel know. That’s God’s physical people Israel according to the flesh.

30 Therefore being a prophet, and knowing that God had sworn with an oath to him, that of the fruit of his loins, according to the flesh, he would raise up Christ to sit on his throne;
31 He seeing this before spake of the resurrection of Christ, that his soul was not left in hell, neither his flesh did see corruption.
32 This Jesus hath God raised up, whereof we all are witnesses.
33 Therefore being by the right hand of God exalted, and having received of the Father the promise of the Holy Ghost, he hath shed forth this, which ye now see and hear.
34 For David is not ascended into the heavens: but he saith himself, The Lord said unto my Lord, Sit thou on my right hand,
35 Until I make thy foes thy footstool.
36 Therefore let all the house of Israel know assuredly, that God hath made the same Jesus, whom ye have crucified, both Lord and Christ.
You forgot;
“For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:25–26 (KJV 1900) = the resurrection on the last day.
 

John146

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You forgot;
“For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:25–26 (KJV 1900) = the resurrection on the last day.
Yes, reign for a thousand years over the kingdoms of this earth. That’s future. It hasn’t happened yet. Death has not been destroyed yet.
 
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Yes, reign for a thousand years over the kingdoms of this earth. That’s future. It hasn’t happened yet. Death has not been destroyed yet.
It means he reins from his resurrection until the resurrection on the last day. Nothing physical here.
 

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It means he reins from his resurrection until the resurrection on the last day. Nothing physical here.
Sorry, he’s not reigning right now. I’ve refuted this with many scripture references. This is definitely future. The kingdoms of this world, that’s physical, are become...you see that? Are become, they haven’t been to this point. And he shall reign forever and ever.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
 
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Sorry, he’s not reigning right now. I’ve refuted this with many scripture references. This is definitely future. The kingdoms of this world, that’s physical, are become...you see that? Are become, they haven’t been to this point. And he shall reign forever and ever.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
If Jesus is God, he never stopped ruling, even while buried.
 

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If Jesus is God, he never stopped ruling, even while buried.
Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. Do you think this is metaphorical? Do you not believe in the trinity? Jesus is flesh and bone. God is a spirit. Jesus is the express image of the Father.
 
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Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. Do you think this is metaphorical? Do you not believe in the trinity? Jesus is flesh and bone. God is a spirit. Jesus is the express image of the Father.
Do you think Jesus is God? If yes, that should settle the discussion.
 
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Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father. Do you think this is metaphorical? Do you not believe in the trinity? Jesus is flesh and bone. God is a spirit. Jesus is the express image of the Father.
God is not a man as us. Corruptible flesh was needed in the one time promised demonstration of the lamb of God who was previously slain before the foundation of the world .Flesh signified as sinful was needed to do that is which the letter of the law "death" could not do. Provide a living faith as a law of new birth . Combining both laws (death and life) and making one new perfect law. That does work in a person quickening their souls, giving them a understanding by which they could seek after His Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:1-8 King James Version (KJV)
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
 

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Do you think Jesus is God? If yes, that should settle the discussion.
Sure, as well as the Holy Spirit. Do you believe Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father as prince and Savior?
 

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God is not a man as us. Corruptible flesh was needed in the one time promised demonstration of the lamb of God who was previously slain before the foundation of the world .Flesh signified as sinful was needed to do that is which the letter of the law "death" could not do. Provide a living faith as a law of new birth . Combining both laws (death and life) and making one new perfect law. That does work in a person quickening their souls, giving them a understanding by which they could seek after His Holy Spirit.

Romans 8:1-8 King James Version (KJV)
There is therefore now no condemnation to them which are in Christ Jesus, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus hath made me free from the law of sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness of sinful flesh, and for sin, condemned sin in the flesh: That the righteousness of the law might be fulfilled in us, who walk not after the flesh, but after the Spirit. For they that are after the flesh do mind the things of the flesh; but they that are after the Spirit the things of the Spirit.For to be carnally minded is death; but to be spiritually minded is life and peace. Because the carnal mind is enmity against God: for it is not subject to the law of God, neither indeed can be.So then they that are in the flesh cannot please God.


Romans 3:27 Where is boasting then? It is excluded. By what law? of works? Nay: but by the law of faith.
Jesus was resurrected and ascended to heaven with flesh and bone, no blood.
 
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Sure, as well as the Holy Spirit. Do you believe Jesus is seated at the right hand of the Father as prince and Savior?
God is One being. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit. the Holy Spirit is not the Father. You are involved in heresy if you believe otherwise.
 

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God is One being. The Father is not the Son, the Son is not the Holy Spirit. the Holy Spirit is not the Father. You are involved in heresy if you believe otherwise.
Yes, the mystery of the trinity. Who did Jesus pray to while on earth? Who is the invisible God? Who is the image of the invisible God?
 
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Yes, the mystery of the trinity. Who did Jesus pray to while on earth? Who is the invisible God? Who is the image of the invisible God?
Do you believe the historic doctrine of the trinity?
 

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What does it say about the trinity in summary?
These three are one...great is the mystery of godliness.

Do you believe that when Scripture states that Jesus is on the right hand of the Father, this is just a metaphor and not possible because Jesus and the Father are one and the same?
 
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These three are one...great is the mystery of godliness.

Do you believe that when Scripture states that Jesus is on the right hand of the Father, this is just a metaphor and not possible because Jesus and the Father are one and the same?
Jesus the Son is not Jesus the Father, nor Jesus the Holy Spirit. These are distinct persons having a role unique to each as one eternal Spirit.
 

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Jesus the Son is not Jesus the Father, nor Jesus the Holy Spirit. These are distinct persons having a role unique to each as one eternal Spirit.
Yes, and God the Father is on the heavenly throne, and Jesus is prince and Savior at His right hand waiting to rule on the earthly throne of David in Jerusalem.
 
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Yes, and God the Father is on the heavenly throne, and Jesus is prince and Savior at His right hand waiting to rule on the earthly throne of David in Jerusalem.
Jesus is God who rules now. David's throne is God's Throne in the OT.