How will you celebrate Passover?

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I could never do the peeps way to rich for me even with my sweet tooth But nowadays since I can't eat candy and even sugar free candy is high in carbs I like to just snack on boiled eggs I get some salt to put them. ooh coloring eggs! that was always fun:D

But I have always wondered why is it a bunny hiding the eggs? bunnies don't lay eggs so where did he get them and for that matter which chicken coop did he raid?:unsure:
I remember the egg dying when I was growing up. Stuff is hard to get off your hands though. Apparently, even though the Easter Bunny does not lay the eggs but does in fact hide them, or so I've been told.
 

Blik

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I remember the egg dying when I was growing up. Stuff is hard to get off your hands though. Apparently, even though the Easter Bunny does not lay the eggs but does in fact hide them, or so I've been told.
Easter is copied from a pagan holiday of fertility with rabbits and eggs symbolizing fertility.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Reading that article that is on page two of this discussion would do you a lot of good.
If you are not slaughtering the lamb and sprinkling the blood, then you are not celebrating the The Lord's Passover. Now no one does this anymore because God has replaced it with a new, better covenant.

Whatever "passover" anyone is celebrating today - christian, jewish, or otherwise - is a man-made tradition.

Now for context putting up a christmas tree is also a man-made tradition.

So is it wrong to celebrate "passover"?
I would say it is no more wrong than putting up a christmas tree whether real or fake.

These things I think are OK, so long as they are realized for what they are, and are not elevated to (or replacing of) what God Commands.
 

Blik

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If you are not slaughtering the lamb and sprinkling the blood, then you are not celebrating the The Lord's Passover. Now no one does this anymore because God has replaced it with a new, better covenant.

Whatever "passover" anyone is celebrating today - christian, jewish, or otherwise - is a man-made tradition.

Now for context putting up a christmas tree is also a man-made tradition.

So is it wrong to celebrate "passover"?
I would say it is no more wrong than putting up a christmas tree whether real or fake.

These things I think are OK, so long as they are realized for what they are, and are not elevated to (or replacing of) what God Commands.
God is eternal and does not change, even over thousands of years, so you are saying your God has asked people of slaughter lambs and sprinkle blood as a pastime. It makes all that David wrote about God not true for taking life and not respecting blood does not fit with what David tells about God.

You also are saying that God is not God of all but God did much more than thank the Jewish people He assigned special work to, but created different instructions for them with some things Jewish and other things gentile. Do you think there is Jewish instructions and separate instruction for gentiles?
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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God is eternal and does not change, even over thousands of years, so you are saying your God has asked people of slaughter lambs and sprinkle blood as a pastime. It makes all that David wrote about God not true for taking life and not respecting blood does not fit with what David tells about God.

You also are saying that God is not God of all but God did much more than thank the Jewish people He assigned special work to, but created different instructions for them with some things Jewish and other things gentile. Do you think there is Jewish instructions and separate instruction for gentiles?
so what are you saying, that celebrating passover is a requirement for christians today?
 

Blik

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so what are you saying, that celebrating passover is a requirement for christians today?
You use the word requirement, what do you mean by that? Required for what? God gives us many directions for joyous and abundant living. Are they requirements?

As an example Christ gave us the Lord's Prayer, is that a requirement and if it is what would the consequences be for not repeating it? I don't read all this gobbleegook about Christ giving us this prayer yet the dust will never settle, it seems to me, about that God blessed the seventh day of the week.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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God is eternal and does not change, even over thousands of years, so you are saying your God has asked people of slaughter lambs and sprinkle blood as a pastime. It makes all that David wrote about God not true for taking life and not respecting blood does not fit with what David tells about God.

You also are saying that God is not God of all but God did much more than thank the Jewish people He assigned special work to, but created different instructions for them with some things Jewish and other things gentile. Do you think there is Jewish instructions and separate instruction for gentiles?

he said nothing of the kind

but that is what you do

you transpose scripture and it follows you do the same for posts in this forum

passover was a season of death and the celebration of Easter does not end with death

no one came back to life when the angel of death killed all the first born

however God's only Son did come back to life and that is what we celebrate. we have eternal life through Him and yet you want to focus on death

we no longer have to apply any blood anywhere. blood, the blood of the Son of God who was without sin, has been shed once and for all on our behalf

it is deception to think we should celebrate Passover. Jesus also said to remember Him...not Passover

I am well acquainted with the Old Testament and the New (although to be sure we always learn more when we read and study them again) and the Old is a foreshadowing of the New with regards to the sacrificial system

you can get as angry as you like, but you are not representing the truth we find in scripture
 

Blik

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he said nothing of the kind

but that is what you do

you transpose scripture and it follows you do the same for posts in this forum

passover was a season of death and the celebration of Easter does not end with death

no one came back to life when the angel of death killed all the first born

however God's only Son did come back to life and that is what we celebrate. we have eternal life through Him and yet you want to focus on death

we no longer have to apply any blood anywhere. blood, the blood of the Son of God who was without sin, has been shed once and for all on our behalf

it is deception to think we should celebrate Passover. Jesus also said to remember Him...not Passover

I am well acquainted with the Old Testament and the New (although to be sure we always learn more when we read and study them again) and the Old is a foreshadowing of the New with regards to the sacrificial system

you can get as angry as you like, but you are not representing the truth we find in scripture
This post seems to be, not of God but of trying to harm me with accusations. So often I am even accused of misrepresenting Christ, a terrible accusation and I am sure it does harm. This time you say that the post I responded to didn't use the word requirement. Read the post again.

I do not see how you can say that when God showed the people that the blood of the innocent lamb that God used to show how Christ would mean life. Babies were saved by the blood representing Christ. Yet you are saying it means death!! And then! your accusations accuse me of focusing on death.

Passover is about celebrating the life that Christ gives us. Chris himself told us this. You don't want to celebrate Christ this way, you want to use the communion that Christ also gave us as a replacement, so that is what you should do, but don't preach and criticize and accuse people who take pleasure in following this way of celebrating Christ as well as communion service. It is from the God who created you and me, do you presume to also criticize God for giving us this celebration? I am asking, not accusing.
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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You use the word requirement, what do you mean by that? Required for what? God gives us many directions for joyous and abundant living. Are they requirements?

As an example Christ gave us the Lord's Prayer, is that a requirement and if it is what would the consequences be for not repeating it? I don't read all this gobbleegook about Christ giving us this prayer yet the dust will never settle, it seems to me, about that God blessed the seventh day of the week.
it is a requirement or command from God to forgive others their sins. so to answer your question the lord's prayer contains things which are required of or commanded by God.

Exodus 12:14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the Lord—a lasting ordinance.

Ordinance is a decree or authoritative order or a command. So the passover was a requirement for God's people to follow. Question posed to you: is it still a requirement or an ordinance for God's people to follow today?
 
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7seasrekeyed

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This post seems to be, not of God but of trying to harm me with accusations. So often I am even accused of misrepresenting Christ, a terrible accusation and I am sure it does harm. This time you say that the post I responded to didn't use the word requirement. Read the post again.

I do not see how you can say that when God showed the people that the blood of the innocent lamb that God used to show how Christ would mean life. Babies were saved by the blood representing Christ. Yet you are saying it means death!! And then! your accusations accuse me of focusing on death.

Passover is about celebrating the life that Christ gives us. Chris himself told us this. You don't want to celebrate Christ this way, you want to use the communion that Christ also gave us as a replacement, so that is what you should do, but don't preach and criticize and accuse people who take pleasure in following this way of celebrating Christ as well as communion service. It is from the God who created you and me, do you presume to also criticize God for giving us this celebration? I am asking, not accusing.
nope

Easter is about celebrating the resurrection of Jesus

you don't have a proper understanding yet you wish to tell others all about it
 

Blik

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it is a requirement or command from God to forgive others their sins. so to answer your question the lord's prayer contains things which are required of or commanded by God.

Exodus 12:14 “This is a day you are to commemorate; for the generations to come you shall celebrate it as a festival to the Lord—a lasting ordinance.

Ordinance is a decree or authoritative order or a command. So the passover was a requirement for God's people to follow. Question posed to you: is it still a requirement or an ordinance for God's people to follow today?
Wow!

So how do you think works and salvation work together? There is no command in scripture to stop celebrating Passover, there is guidance (command?) to celebrate it for all generations. You, in your heart of hearts feel that it is
God's wish that we substitute Communion service and use this as a cancellation of Passover, and in my heart of hearts that God asks us to remember Christ in this celebration. One of us is right and one wrong. What do you think the consequences of this is?

I think we are to each follow our heart and understanding.
 

Blik

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nope

Easter is about celebrating the resurrection of Jesus

you don't have a proper understanding yet you wish to tell others all about it
Would you give us the scripture this statement is based on?
 

Nebuchadnezzer

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Wow!

There is no command in scripture to stop celebrating Passover,
Yes there is. See Hebrews 10:18, "sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary"

Hebrews 10 1:18
1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.
2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins.
3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins.
4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, my God.’”[a]
8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law.
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second.
10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
13 and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool.
14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

15 The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16 “This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”
17 Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”
18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.
 

Blain

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nope

Easter is about celebrating the resurrection of Jesus

you don't have a proper understanding yet you wish to tell others all about it
Actually that is what it is supposed to be about Blik is actually correct about it's pagan origins I have done a lot of research into and was shocked abpout the pagan rituals it was utterly disgusting tbh . However pretty much every holiday has some kind of pagan origins even celebrating birthdays but it isn't it's origins that matters it's where are hearts. I mean I know it's origins but I still love to color eggs with my little neice and watch her search for eggs though sometimes I cheat and give her a hint I admit it i'm a cheater lol.

And honestly I like to call it resurrection sunday because that is what we are to celebrate on this day after all
 

Blik

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Yes there is. See Hebrews 10:18, "sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary"

Hebrews 10 1:18
1 The law is only a shadow of the good things that are coming—not the realities themselves. For this reason it can never, by the same sacrifices repeated endlessly year after year, make perfect those who draw near to worship.
2 Otherwise, would they not have stopped being offered? For the worshipers would have been cleansed once for all, and would no longer have felt guilty for their sins.
3 But those sacrifices are an annual reminder of sins.
4 It is impossible for the blood of bulls and goats to take away sins.

5 Therefore, when Christ came into the world, he said:

“Sacrifice and offering you did not desire,
but a body you prepared for me;
6 with burnt offerings and sin offerings
you were not pleased.
7 Then I said, ‘Here I am—it is written about me in the scroll—
I have come to do your will, my God.’”[a]
8 First he said, “Sacrifices and offerings, burnt offerings and sin offerings you did not desire, nor were you pleased with them”—though they were offered in accordance with the law.
9 Then he said, “Here I am, I have come to do your will.” He sets aside the first to establish the second.
10 And by that will, we have been made holy through the sacrifice of the body of Jesus Christ once for all.

11 Day after day every priest stands and performs his religious duties; again and again he offers the same sacrifices, which can never take away sins.
12 But when this priest had offered for all time one sacrifice for sins, he sat down at the right hand of God,
13 and since that time he waits for his enemies to be made his footstool.
14 For by one sacrifice he has made perfect forever those who are being made holy.

15 The Holy Spirit also testifies to us about this. First he says:

16 “This is the covenant I will make with them
after that time, says the Lord.
I will put my laws in their hearts,
and I will write them on their minds.”
17 Then he adds:

“Their sins and lawless acts
I will remember no more.”
18 And where these have been forgiven, sacrifice for sin is no longer necessary.
Scripture is telling the people who lived at the time of Christ that Christ is our sacrifice, animal sacrifice is no longer needed. Are you saying that it would be a sacrifice if anyone celebrated Christ with a feast? If a group of Christians gathered over a festive table to praise the Lord and you came hating the celebration, I don't think the Christians that gathered or Christ would welcome such.
 

Blik

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Actually that is what it is supposed to be about Blik is actually correct about it's pagan origins I have done a lot of research into and was shocked abpout the pagan rituals it was utterly disgusting tbh . However pretty much every holiday has some kind of pagan origins even celebrating birthdays but it isn't it's origins that matters it's where are hearts. I mean I know it's origins but I still love to color eggs with my little neice and watch her search for eggs though sometimes I cheat and give her a hint I admit it i'm a cheater lol.

And honestly I like to call it resurrection sunday because that is what we are to celebrate on this day after all
You are so right, it is our hearts that God looks at. But scripture tells us that we are not to copy the pagans.

It seems to me that it is only common sense to follow the Lord who created us and our world and promises us a life beyond this one when we follow Him. God spells life and what is good and pagans spells death. I even see it in our world--love and kindness from the Lord brings joy. Spite and meanness brings gloom. I trust the Lord's ways and question man's ways of the flesh.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Actually that is what it is supposed to be about Blik is actually correct about it's pagan origins I have done a lot of research into and was shocked abpout the pagan rituals it was utterly disgusting tbh . However pretty much every holiday has some kind of pagan origins even celebrating birthdays but it isn't it's origins that matters it's where are hearts. I mean I know it's origins but I still love to color eggs with my little neice and watch her search for eggs though sometimes I cheat and give her a hint I admit it i'm a cheater lol.

And honestly I like to call it resurrection sunday because that is what we are to celebrate on this day after all
there are people far more qualified to research than you or Blik

Easter is not about eggs and chickens. it is about Jesus rising from the dead

be persuaded however you wish

it seems everything is pagan to some people while those with a clear conscience before God still celebrate Jesus at Easter and remember Him Good Friday

and Christimas, celebrating His birth

like Paul said, don't let people condemn you, but it seems some people, like yourself, get all caught up in things that are not really the trouble

Paul even said it was ok to eat meat sacrificed to idols...does your conscience condemn you Blain?

4 So then, about eating food sacrificed to idols: We know that “An idol is nothing at all in the world” and that “There is no God but one.” 5 For even if there are so-called gods, whether in heaven or on earth (as indeed there are many “gods” and many “lords”), 6 yet for us there is but one God, the Father, from whom all things came and for whom we live; and there is but one Lord, Jesus Christ, through whom all things came and through whom we live. I Corinthians 8

I do not offend others in what I do and am totally aware some have a weaker conscience...such as perhaps yourself
 

Dino246

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This post seems to be, not of God but of trying to harm me with accusations.
You have a massive chip on your shoulder. You are quick to demonize anyone who criticizes you, but you twist and corrupt the words of others with no concern. I have addressed this pattern of yours many times, but you have not corrected your behaviour. Get some integrity.
 

Blik

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You have a massive chip on your shoulder. You are quick to demonize anyone who criticizes you, but you twist and corrupt the words of others with no concern. I have addressed this pattern of yours many times, but you have not corrected your behaviour. Get some integrity.
Now, instead of making blank statements that I am wrong without giving scripture reasons you are going back to attacking me as a person! Don't you read scripture?