Jesus as King?

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John146

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Paul says;
“For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet. The last enemy that shall be destroyed is death.” 1 Corinthians 15:25–26 (KJV 1900)
= he must rein until the resurrection on the last day.
You should have included the former verses to establish the context. He has not come yet. Then come th the end. When He comes, He will reign then deliver up the kingdom to God.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
 

John146

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Then sat Solomon upon the throne of David his father; and his kingdom was established greatly.” 1 Kings 2:12 (KJV 1900)
Earthly, physical...
 

John146

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The passages are from the Old Testament, not from the Judah that came into being.

If you knew what "jewish" truly means, you would not separate yourself from the term. It is quite plain you do not, otherwise you would know Jesus-Yeshua from the prophets and from the law for both pont to Him to those who are not blinded by the veil of Moses.
I’m not in agreement with replacement theology. The Church has not replaced Israel.
 
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You should have included the former verses to establish the context. He has not come yet. Then come th the end. When He comes, He will reign then deliver up the kingdom to God.

23 But every man in his own order: Christ the firstfruits; afterward they that are Christ's at his coming.
24 Then cometh the end, when he shall have delivered up the kingdom to God, even the Father; when he shall have put down all rule and all authority and power.
25 For he must reign, till he hath put all enemies under his feet.
Jesus rules until the resurrection on the last day. And then delivers the kingdom up to the Father thereby receiving a kingdom of his own.
 

JaumeJ

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I’m not in agreement with replacement theology. The Church has not replaced Israel.
You should say you are not in agreement with theologies of man for the Word is not theology, it is Truth and Life to all led by the Holy Spirit in their study thereof.

It seems you have joined the hoards who have created their own laws and commandments.
 

John146

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Peter says the earth and heavens end in the fire on the last day.
His second coming at the end of the great tribulation...”are become”. Meaning now...he shall reign forever, not he will continue to reign as he has been. The kingdoms of the world have been stripped from Satan and given over to Jesus at His return.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
 

John146

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Jesus rules until the resurrection on the last day. And then delivers the kingdom up to the Father thereby receiving a kingdom of his own.
Jesus is not ruling now. The god of this world is Satan. This world is darkness. When the Lord rules, there will be light.
 

John146

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Peter says the earth and heavens end in the fire on the last day.
Revelation 20, then the Lord creates a new heaven and earth and continues His reign forever.
 
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His second coming at the end of the great tribulation...”are become”. Meaning now...he shall reign forever, not he will continue to reign as he has been. The kingdoms of the world have been stripped from Satan and given over to Jesus at His return.

Revelation 11:15 And the seventh angel sounded; and there were great voices in heaven, saying, The kingdoms of this world are become the kingdoms of our Lord, and of his Christ; and he shall reign for ever and ever.
Do you realize that if there happened to be a physical millennium, only glorified resurrected saints would be there? And Satan would cause them to attack each other as Gog and Magog? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom......
 
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Revelation 20, then the Lord creates a new heaven and earth and continues His reign forever.
Revelation 20 covers the New Covenant era beginning with Christ's first advent, until the end of the world.
 

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Jesus wore a crown of thorns. Never has there been a crown so glorious as that crown of thorns. Jesus is King and much more. Jesus is Jehovah God incarnate.

For the cause of Christ
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Jesus is not ruling now. The god of this world is Satan. This world is darkness. When the Lord rules, there will be light.
Jesus controls Satan for his own purposes.
 

John146

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Do you realize that if there happened to be a physical millennium, only glorified resurrected saints would be there? And Satan would cause them to attack each other as Gog and Magog? Flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom......
Nope, wrong again. Those that endure to the end of the tribulation and the nations that aided Israel would be ushered in. They will populate the earth once more. These are not glorified saints.
 
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Nope, wrong again. Those that endure to the end of the tribulation and the nations that aided Israel would be ushered in. They will populate the earth once more. These are not glorified saints.
You are trying to mix Phariseeism with Christianity. This was condemned as heresy by the Church.
 

John146

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Jesus wore a crown of thorns. Never has there been a crown so glorious as that crown of thorns. Jesus is King and much more. Jesus is Jehovah God incarnate.

For the cause of Christ
Roger
Jesus is seated as prince st the right hand of the Father waiting to return as King. He is not King of this earth yet. Believe me, this earth would not be in the mess it’s in if Jesus was ruling things.
 
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Jesus is seated as prince st the right hand of the Father waiting to return as King. He is not King of this earth yet. Believe me, this earth would not be in the mess it’s in if Jesus was ruling things.
Jesus IS God = you do not know your bible as well as you should.
 

John146

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You are trying to mix Phariseeism with Christianity. This was condemned as heresy by the Church.
Scripture my friend, Scripture. It’s plain and simple.
 

notuptome

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Jesus is seated as prince st the right hand of the Father waiting to return as King. He is not King of this earth yet. Believe me, this earth would not be in the mess it’s in if Jesus was ruling things.
Jesus rules and reigns in the hearts of believers. Yes the physical kingdom on earth is yet to come but Jesus is very much King of all He created.

For the cause of Christ
Roger