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[EleventhHour]

They're not all involved in a huge virus conspiracy. Most are just ignorant. The same with evolution. Not all evolutionists are willingly involved in a conspiracy to hide that design does indeed require a Designer. They are just duped, and don't ask the searching questions, because it will cost them their cushy jobs. Did you never wonder why doctors and many scientists are overpaid? And why those who ask searching questions or post embarrassing journal articles are sacked, delisted and scandalised?

You indicated in your post, where you claimed that I received a ribbon for "my nonsense", that "there is technology to view viruses". I want to learn about this technology, if it exists. Post me a link, if you were telling the truth.

Let us not confuse two different topics we are not talking about evolution.

I will think on it.

 

[Moses_Young]

Well, my friend, burden of proof applies to your claims as well, even if you’re masquerading your claims as something else.

I'm not making any claims. I'm simply saying that the conservative approach is that we do nothing until there is proof of anything. And as there is no proof of anything, we should be doing nothing. But because something is being done (draconian laws coming into place) when there is no proof of anything, this is evidence of government complicity in trying to destroy our freedoms.

 

[Demi777]

Interesting. But how do you know it is the virus causing the sickness, and not the meds?

There are no facts. This is my point. Most everyone is panicking about a show they watched on TV. Were there some science behind this hoax virus, it would be revealled to be a common cold, possibly a common cold with deadly effects caused by man-made, toxic medicines, but a cold or flu nonetheless. The scaremongers would have us believe a story they cannot substantiate, based on half-truths, lies, and bad-science, then complain that we aren't disproving their lies, when they never provided any evidence of their claims in the first place. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not the one asking for evidence in order to accept it as true.

We know it covid because he got tested and was in hospital for a longer time without meds until he had to go because of another patient

 

[blue_ladybug]

Interesting. But how do you know it is the virus causing the sickness, and not the meds?

There are no facts. This is my point. Most everyone is panicking about a show they watched on TV. Were there some science behind this hoax virus, it would be revealled to be a common cold, possibly a common cold with deadly effects caused by man-made, toxic medicines, but a cold or flu nonetheless. The scaremongers would have us believe a story they cannot substantiate, based on half-truths, lies, and bad-science, then complain that we aren't disproving their lies, when they never provided any evidence of their claims in the first place. The burden of proof is on the one making the claim, not the one asking for evidence in order to accept it as true.

First of all, meds rarely cause a person to be on a waiting list for a ventilator. Second, I wouldn't exactly call this virus a "hoax", because people ARE dying of it..

 

[Moses_Young]

First of all, meds rarely cause a person to be on a waiting list for a ventilator. Second, I wouldn't exactly call this virus a "hoax", because people ARE dying of it..

If there is a waiting list for a ventilator, is the ventilator really needed?

When I say virus hoax, I'm not saying there is no disease, nor that people are not dying. I am saying that there has been no proper science done to determine that a particular disease is the sole cause of the deaths, and certainly that the draconian measures being imposed to try to halt this alleged disease are evil and freedom destroying. Perhaps I should use the word false-flag, rather than hoax? But the hoax is that people believe these draconian measures are justified.

 

[EleventhHour]

If there is a waiting list for a ventilator, is the ventilator really needed?

When I say virus hoax, I'm not saying there is no disease, nor that people are not dying. I am saying that there has been no proper science done to determine that a particular disease is the sole cause of the deaths, and certainly that the draconian measures being imposed to try to halt this alleged disease are evil and freedom destroying. Perhaps I should use the word false-flag, rather than hoax? But the hoax is that people believe these draconian measures are justified.

Why don't you do some research on the Spanish Flu.
Again you make broad sweeping statements with nothing to back it up.

 

[Moses_Young]

Why don't you do some research on the Spanish Flu.
Again you make broad sweeping statements with nothing to back it up.

I have. It was caused by vaccination. Don't get vaccinated, don't get the Spanish flu. Easily avoided.

 

[EleventhHour]

I'm not making any claims. I'm simply saying that the conservative approach is that we do nothing until there is proof of anything. And as there is no proof of anything, we should be doing nothing. But because something is being done (draconian laws coming into place) when there is no proof of anything, this is evidence of government complicity in trying to destroy our freedoms.

What proof
People dying isn't proof?

 

[Moses_Young]

What proof
People dying isn't proof?

People dying is proof of people dying. Remember when Adam brought sin into the world? People have been dying since. People also have been getting sick every year. It's called the cold and flu. Whilst colds and flus mostly kill old people (if anyone), they do sometimes kill younger people, such as asthmatics. Death is not a new thing, neither is sickness.

 

[blue_ladybug]

If there is a waiting list for a ventilator, is the ventilator really needed?

When I say virus hoax, I'm not saying there is no disease, nor that people are not dying. I am saying that there has been no proper science done to determine that a particular disease is the sole cause of the deaths, and certainly that the draconian measures being imposed to try to halt this alleged disease are evil and freedom destroying. Perhaps I should use the word false-flag, rather than hoax? But the hoax is that people believe these draconian measures are justified.

OBVIOUSLY, if one is on a waiting list, then a ventilator is needed. No offense, but your comment pertaining to that is absurd.

There have been several pandemics throughout history, they all passed as this one will surely pass. Not without casualties, of course.. And we can't really rely on science and numbers, because those change on a daily basis, in respect to this virus.

 

[EleventhHour]

I have. It was caused by vaccination. Don't get vaccinated, don't get the Spanish flu. Easily avoided.

Right so all at once people who have been vaccinated are all getting sick more or less simultaneously.

That makes a lot of sense

The Spanish Flu started before the use of the vaccine to treat it, they thought is was a bacteria it was not, the vaccine was developed to treat bacteria, more people died than received that vaccine.

I hoping I can stop responding to you... I really do not handle it well when people misrepresent facts or posit ideas with no scientific data to back it up.

 

[EleventhHour]

People dying is proof of people dying. Remember when Adam brought sin into the world? People have been dying since. People also have been getting sick every year. It's called the cold and flu. Whilst colds and flus mostly kill old people (if anyone), they do sometimes kill younger people, such as asthmatics. Death is not a new thing, neither is sickness.

Done, really done.

 

[blue_ladybug]

People dying is proof of people dying. Remember when Adam brought sin into the world? People have been dying since. People also have been getting sick every year. It's called the cold and flu. Whilst colds and flus mostly kill old people (if anyone), they do sometimes kill younger people, such as asthmatics. Death is not a new thing, neither is sickness.

Colds and the flu are not running rampant right now, nor do they affect the entire world all at once, like this virus is.

 

[EleventhHour]

Colds and the flu are not running rampant right now, nor do they affect the entire world all at once, like this virus is.

You go girl ... but common sense really does not work sometimes.

 

[Moses_Young]

Right so all at once people who have been vaccinated are all getting sick more or less simultaneously.

Soldiers were returning from the war. Scaremongering was going on, for people to get vaccinated so they didn't get all these bogeyman diseases brought home by the soldiers. People got vaccinated, and many got the diseases the vaccines were supposed to prevent. Doctors denied it, because they didn't want to get blamed. Not rocket-science.

I hoping I can stop responding to you... I really do not handle it well when people misrepresent facts or posit ideas with no scientific data to back it up.

You'll really be struggling at the moment with all the misrepresented facts and posited ideas with no scientific basis streaming from the world government/s and TV then.

You can stop any time.

 

[blue_ladybug]

The bible says we will experience plagues, famine and diseases in the last days. I'm not down-playing the seriousness of this virus, but it's nothing like what's coming. What are people gonna do when the sh** really hits the fan?? Open their umbrellas and hope they don't get hit by it??

 

[Moses_Young]

Colds and the flu are not running rampant right now, nor do they affect the entire world all at once, like this virus is.

Since when? Colds and flu run rampant with the Winter weather, and other environmental factors. I had one the other week - it was probably Coronavirus. This coronavirus is not affecting the world anymore than any other cold or flu. What is effecting the world is the knee-jerk (calculated) draconian responses of the governments.

 

[EleventhHour]

Soldiers were returning from the war. Scaremongering was going on, for people to get vaccinated so they didn't get all these bogeyman diseases brought home by the soldiers. People got vaccinated, and many got the diseases the vaccines were supposed to prevent. Doctors denied it, because they didn't want to get blamed. Not rocket-science.

You'll really be struggling at the moment with all the misrepresented facts and posited ideas with no scientific basis streaming from the world government/s and TV then.

You can stop any time.

The virus appeared before the vaccine...the rest is pure speculation

 

[Moses_Young]

The virus appeared before the vaccine...the rest is pure speculation

Vaccines have been around since the 1800s. The Spanish Flu occurred in the 1900s.

I'm speculating on the cause of the Spanish Flu just as much as those who claim it was the Flu, and just as much as those who claim it was Spanish. But what I speculate fits better with what we know of vaccination, and the fact that deadly diseases don't just happen - well, at least not since the Black Death, and that really is a mystery - perhaps that was a divine plague.

What I speculate also fits better with eye-witness accounts of the time.

 

[EleventhHour]

Vaccines have been around since the 1800s. The Spanish Flu occurred in the 1900s.

I'm speculating on the cause of the Spanish Flu just as much as those who claim it was the Flu, and just as much as those who claim it was Spanish. But what I speculate fits better with what we know of vaccination, and the fact that deadly diseases don't just happen - well, at least not since the Black Death, and that really is a mystery - perhaps that was a divine plague.

What I speculate also fits better with eye-witness accounts of the time.

Fact: it did not originate in Spain, that is not why it was called the Spanish Flu