Catholicism vs Protestantism
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This is going to be ugly if the RCC Muslim thread is any indication. As is the case it appears whenever this subject appears in any thread I've seen since joining.
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In brief, to answer your question, we should treat each other as the Lord both traditions worship instructed and sealed as the eternal lesson for all , with his blood. LOVE!
God in the end is the judge of such things as those who live by the words of men, who translate the words of God into Denominational allegiance.
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In brief, to answer your question, we should treat each other as the Lord both traditions worship instructed and sealed as the eternal lesson for all , with his blood. LOVE!
God in the end is the judge of such things as those who live by the words of men, who translate the words of God into Denominational allegiance.
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Protestants and Catholics are both Christians and we should treat each other as part of the Christian family. We both believe in the basic tenants of Christianity. Catholics have some additional beliefs, in part because they accept the Apocrypha. Before discussing which books should or should not be in the Bible, let's remember that Martin Luther wanted to remove Hebrews, James, Jude and Revelations from the Bible because these books emphasized works. Yes, both lead to salvation.
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In your opinion will you see any Catholics in Heaven? Mother Teresa, Saint Nicholas, Saint Patrick, Saint Valentine to name a few. I have a elderly grandmother in my small group I been teaching. She is as sweet as can be and very well versed in scripture but a practicing Catholic. She comes because her kids go to my church. She always telling me how much she loves what I taught. Should we consider folks like her as unsaved or as this verse describes
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 New International Version (NIV)
10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Will they the builder have all burnt up but yet will be saved?
1 Corinthians 3:10-15 New International Version (NIV)
10 By the grace God has given me, I laid a foundation as a wise builder, and someone else is building on it. But each one should build with care. 11 For no one can lay any foundation other than the one already laid, which is Jesus Christ. 12 If anyone builds on this foundation using gold, silver, costly stones, wood, hay or straw, 13 their work will be shown for what it is, because the Day will bring it to light. It will be revealed with fire, and the fire will test the quality of each person’s work. 14 If what has been built survives, the builder will receive a reward. 15 If it is burned up, the builder will suffer loss but yet will be saved—even though only as one escaping through the flames.
Will they the builder have all burnt up but yet will be saved?
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-belief in the Trinity
-the virgin birth
-the deity of Christ/Christ is the Messiah
-the creation and subsequent fall of humanity
-Christ’s unique atonement for our sins
-the physical resurrection of Christ
-the necessity of God’s grace for salvation (although disagreement on how grace is obtained)
-the existence of heaven and hell-the second coming of Christ
-and the verbal inspiration and infallibility of Scripture
-the virgin birth
-the deity of Christ/Christ is the Messiah
-the creation and subsequent fall of humanity
-Christ’s unique atonement for our sins
-the physical resurrection of Christ
-the necessity of God’s grace for salvation (although disagreement on how grace is obtained)
-the existence of heaven and hell-the second coming of Christ
-and the verbal inspiration and infallibility of Scripture
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Protestants take their sins to Christ to be forgiven, so do Catholics. They are the same in what is basic.
However, Catholics believe they have men who are authorized to make decisions that are only to be made by God, Protestants believe they don't have that right. It is the major difference.
However, Catholics believe they have men who are authorized to make decisions that are only to be made by God, Protestants believe they don't have that right. It is the major difference.
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Party 'A' magnifies and adds to certain verses while diminishing others.
Party 'B' magnifies and adds to verses Party 'A' subtracts from while also diminishing from other verses.
And this is not just between Catholics and Protestants, it's between every self-identifying sect out there.
No.
Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Jeremiah 27
[14]...hearken not unto the words of the prophets that speak unto you...for they prophesy a lie unto you. [15] For I have not sent them, says the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.
Romans 16:17
Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned; and avoid them.
Of course, the doctrine here is biblical doctrine, not man's doctrine.
Party 'B' magnifies and adds to verses Party 'A' subtracts from while also diminishing from other verses.
And this is not just between Catholics and Protestants, it's between every self-identifying sect out there.
No.
Revelation 22:18
For I testify unto every man that hears the words of the prophecy of this book, If any man shall add unto these things, God shall add unto him the plagues that are written in this book: And if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, God shall take away his part out of the book of life and out of the holy city, and from the things which are written in this book.
Jeremiah 27
[14]...hearken not unto the words of the prophets that speak unto you...for they prophesy a lie unto you. [15] For I have not sent them, says the LORD, yet they prophesy a lie in my name; that I might drive you out, and that ye might perish, ye, and the prophets that prophesy unto you.
Romans 16:17
Mark them which cause divisions and offences contrary to the doctrine which you have learned; and avoid them.
Of course, the doctrine here is biblical doctrine, not man's doctrine.
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[QUOTE="Roughsoul1991, post: 4195600, member: 245751"] Where do they differ and why? [/quote]
The Catholic Church rejects the Five Solas of the Protestants and that sums up the difference (as noted in Theopedia):
The Five Solas are five Latin phrases (or slogans) that emerged from the Protestant Reformation intended to summarize the Reformers' basic theological principles in contrast to certain teachings of the Roman Catholic Church of the day. "Sola" is Latin meaning "alone" or "only" and the corresponding phrases are:
Respect practicing Catholics and show them the love of Christ.
At the same expose the heresies of the clerical hierarchy and the institutional Church of Rome through Scripture.
The Catholic Church rejects the Five Solas of the Protestants and that sums up the difference (as noted in Theopedia):
The Five Solas are five Latin phrases (or slogans) that emerged from the Protestant Reformation intended to summarize the Reformers' basic theological principles in contrast to certain teachings of the Roman Catholic Church of the day. "Sola" is Latin meaning "alone" or "only" and the corresponding phrases are:
- Sola Fide, by faith alone.
- Sola Scriptura, by Scripture alone.
- Solus Christus, through Christ alone.
- Sola Gratia, by grace alone.
- Soli Deo Gloria, glory to God alone.
Respect practicing Catholics and show them the love of Christ.
At the same expose the heresies of the clerical hierarchy and the institutional Church of Rome through Scripture.
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I think that our thoughts about other people needs to be after realizing that it is only God's place to decide about salvation. I truly love and admire my ex nun Catholic friend, and she is so knowledgeable about scripture we often visit over our bibles.
However, it is my choice not to join that church, based on their use of statues of Christ and their opinion of the power of the pope and priests.
However, it is my choice not to join that church, based on their use of statues of Christ and their opinion of the power of the pope and priests.
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Interesting.
Just curious. You do know in Revelation 22:18 when it says if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, that was written before the canon. The book referenced was the scroll. Which was a common practice at that time to add that type of wording almost like a modern day copyright.
Mark who? We see diversity in all Christian denominations. Which doctrine is correct? I say mine. You say yours. The calvinist says his. The Armenian, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, Pentecostal, nondenominational ( usually have belief statements), etc, etc. Even if 2 read the Bible on their own without a denomination they can still find interpretation differences.
Just curious. You do know in Revelation 22:18 when it says if any man shall take away from the words of the book of this prophecy, that was written before the canon. The book referenced was the scroll. Which was a common practice at that time to add that type of wording almost like a modern day copyright.
Mark who? We see diversity in all Christian denominations. Which doctrine is correct? I say mine. You say yours. The calvinist says his. The Armenian, Lutheran, Methodist, Baptist, Pentecostal, nondenominational ( usually have belief statements), etc, etc. Even if 2 read the Bible on their own without a denomination they can still find interpretation differences.
The Catholic Church rejects the Five Solas of the Protestants and that sums up the difference (as noted in Theopedia):
The Five Solas are five Latin phrases (or slogans) that emerged from the Protestant Reformation intended to summarize the Reformers' basic theological principles in contrast to certain teachings of the Roman Catholic Church of the day. "Sola" is Latin meaning "alone" or "only" and the corresponding phrases are:
While Catholicism leads to spiritual confusion, only God knows how many Catholics are truly saved. People can be saved in spite of their denominations.
Respect practicing Catholics and show them the love of Christ.
At the same expose the heresies of the clerical hierarchy and the institutional Church of Rome through Scripture.[/QUOTE]
If they reject the 5 solas then how could God only know how many Catholics are truly saved. Rejection of the 5 solas is basically leaving the only way to salvation. Yes or no?
The Five Solas are five Latin phrases (or slogans) that emerged from the Protestant Reformation intended to summarize the Reformers' basic theological principles in contrast to certain teachings of the Roman Catholic Church of the day. "Sola" is Latin meaning "alone" or "only" and the corresponding phrases are:
- Sola Fide, by faith alone.
- Sola Scriptura, by Scripture alone.
- Solus Christus, through Christ alone.
- Sola Gratia, by grace alone.
- Soli Deo Gloria, glory to God alone.
While Catholicism leads to spiritual confusion, only God knows how many Catholics are truly saved. People can be saved in spite of their denominations.
Respect practicing Catholics and show them the love of Christ.
At the same expose the heresies of the clerical hierarchy and the institutional Church of Rome through Scripture.[/QUOTE]
If they reject the 5 solas then how could God only know how many Catholics are truly saved. Rejection of the 5 solas is basically leaving the only way to salvation. Yes or no?
I understand but wouldn't you agree that a unbeliever Biblically cannot find salvation on his own merits? What do you preach to unbelievers about salvation? Reason I ask is in your opinion does Catholicism lead to salvation? If no then wouldn't you be afraid that your friends destination would be the same?
Many people on here says it doesn't lead to salvation.
Many people on here says it doesn't lead to salvation.
1. Catholic and protestan different in foundation. Protestant base oN the bible alone, catholic base oN tradition and magister for Example
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The Vatican is taking a modern approach to one of its oldest traditions, by offering indulgences to Twitter followers of the Pontifex's social media account.
Aware that some Catholics may not be able afford to travel to Brazil, where World Youth Day is being held from July 23-28, and perhaps also in an effort to modernize himself, Pope Francis is making this first-time offer to the faithful who follow the events in Rio de Janeiro online.
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This believe is not in the bible.
2. Do both lead to salvation?
No, only Jesus teaching lead to salvation not man teaching
3. Jesus say love your enemy. So we have to love catholic. And what is love? Love mean to tell them the truth, tell them that Mary not able to hear billions people pray to her, only God is omnipresent, not Mary or st peter, they are human
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The Vatican is taking a modern approach to one of its oldest traditions, by offering indulgences to Twitter followers of the Pontifex's social media account.
Aware that some Catholics may not be able afford to travel to Brazil, where World Youth Day is being held from July 23-28, and perhaps also in an effort to modernize himself, Pope Francis is making this first-time offer to the faithful who follow the events in Rio de Janeiro online.
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This believe is not in the bible.
2. Do both lead to salvation?
No, only Jesus teaching lead to salvation not man teaching
3. Jesus say love your enemy. So we have to love catholic. And what is love? Love mean to tell them the truth, tell them that Mary not able to hear billions people pray to her, only God is omnipresent, not Mary or st peter, they are human
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