The Word became Flesh

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Locoponydirtman said:
It's called hyper spiritualizing. And it's also deifying the human. Its abuse of the scriptures. That passage is about who Jesus is. Our relationship to that is that we believe or reject it. The word does not become flesh in our flesh. The word became flesh in Jesus incarnate as a man on this Earth. The word is always alive by the power of the Holy Spirit who inhabits the word.
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So you're saying when we claim the scriptures and ask "by His strips we are healed in Jesus's Name or use our authority and claim our healing in His Name and we are physically healed not by medicines but by Faith, the Word did not become Flesh empowered by the Holy Ghost.
But I agree the Word became Flesh in context to the scriptures , I'm coming from a different angle and I have laid hands on people and used my Authority in His Name and they have been healed. If I'm abusing the scriptures, why were they Healed?
In the book of Acts when people were getting healed by the Apostles shadows, would this be known as hyper spiritualizing? if people let their shadow heal people.
To me personally, its the end result, if a believer faith is strengthen/encouraged this way and their prays are answered.......... Praised the Lord!
I agree " The word is always alive by the power of the Holy Spirit who inhabits the word." but through a body who has faith in Christ
 
mystic7 said:
So you're saying when we claim the scriptures and ask "by His strips we are healed in Jesus's Name or use our authority and claim our healing in His Name and we are physically healed not by medicines but by Faith, the Word did not become Flesh empowered by the Holy Ghost.
But I agree the Word became Flesh in context to the scriptures , I'm coming from a different angle and I have laid hands on people and used my Authority in His Name and they have been healed. If I'm abusing the scriptures, why were they Healed?
In the book of Acts when people were getting healed by the Apostles shadows, would this be known as hyper spiritualizing? if people let their shadow heal people.
To me personally, its the end result, if a believer faith is strengthen/encouraged this way and their prays are answered.......... Praised the Lord!
I agree " The word is always alive by the power of the Holy Spirit who inhabits the word." but through a body who has faith in Christ
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This body and flesh that we live in you cannot deify it by saying that this body becomes the word or the word becomes this body. This body is the body of sin and death.
 
The Scriptures in the 1st Chapter of the Gospel of John is DIRECTLY referring to Jesus Christ Himself and not us............. Compare it to the Scriptures in the 1st Chapter of Genesis. His becoming "flesh" is the fulfillment of prophecy in Scripture concerning the promised Messiah..........
 
Locoponydirtman said:
It's called hyper spiritualizing. And it's also deifying the human. Its abuse of the scriptures. That passage is about who Jesus is. Our relationship to that is that we believe or reject it. The word does not become flesh in our flesh. The word became flesh in Jesus incarnate as a man on this Earth. The word is always alive by the power of the Holy Spirit who inhabits the word.
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What does "spiritualizing" mean? Interpret what the Spirit is saying?

You hear the phrase enough what does it mean?
 
Locoponydirtman said:
This body and flesh that we live in you cannot deify it by saying that this body becomes the word or the word becomes this body. This body is the body of sin and death.
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Unfortunately some believers still refer to their old nature from the past and not moving on by living in the present.
The day I gave my life to Christ according to His promises changes happen within my life and with His Grace will continue
  • John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
  • John 3:5-7 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
  • Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
  • Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
  • 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
  • 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
  • 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
This is the Present, even though I am still in the flesh, I am an adopted child of God,
According to His promises (which have been already fulfilled) with His Grace I live with this new nature.
Jesus stated: John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Moses wore the veil because of God’s Glory upon his face that was an evidence of the Word becoming flesh
Today the evidence of God’s Glory in our lives is through our lifestyle and the Gifting’s of the Holy Ghost
This what I believe in, I have personally experience and still experiencing the power of God operating in my life
I am not the son of God but I am an adopted son of God.
He is my Father.
God Bless Bro.
 
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mystic7 said:
Unfortunately some believers still refer to their old nature from the past and not moving on by living in the present.
The day I gave my life to Christ according to His promises changes happen within my life and with His Grace will continue
  • John 1:12-13 But as many as received him, to them gave he power to become the sons of God, even to them that believe on his name: Which were born, not of blood, nor of the will of the flesh, nor of the will of man, but of God.
  • John 3:5-7 Jesus answered, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born of water and of the Spirit, he cannot enter into the kingdom of God. That which is born of the flesh is flesh; and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit. Marvel not that I said unto thee, Ye must be born again.
  • Romans 8:15 For ye have not received the spirit of bondage again to fear; but ye have received the Spirit of adoption, whereby we cry, Abba, Father.
  • Romans 8:29 For whom he did foreknow, he also did predestinate to be conformed to the image of his Son, that he might be the firstborn among many brethren.
  • 2 Corinthians 5:17 Therefore if any man be in Christ, he is a new creature: old things are passed away; behold, all things are become new.
  • 1 Peter 1:23 Being born again, not of corruptible seed, but of incorruptible, by the word of God, which liveth and abideth for ever.
  • 1 John 3:9 Whosoever is born of God doth not commit sin; for his seed remaineth in him: and he cannot sin, because he is born of God.
This is the Present, even though I am still in the flesh, I am an adopted child of God,
According to His promises (which have been already fulfilled) with His Grace I live with this new nature.
Jesus stated: John 10:34-35 Jesus answered them, Is it not written in your law, I said, Ye are gods? If he called them gods, unto whom the word of God came, and the scripture cannot be broken;
Psalms 82:6 I have said, Ye are gods; and all of you are children of the most High.
Moses wore the veil because of God’s Glory upon his face that was an evidence of the Word becoming flesh
Today the evidence of God’s Glory in our lives is through our lifestyle and the Gifting’s of the Holy Ghost
This what I believe in, I have personally experience and still experiencing the power of God operating in my life
I am not the son of God but I am an adopted son of God.
He is my Father.
God Bless Bro.
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Go ahead and deify this flesh, and when your idol dies it will be indeed dead. There is scripture after scripture about this flesh being dead, and buried.
The promises you listed above are not about this flesh. Being born again is not about this flesh born again, who are you? Nicodemus?. Did you go back to your mother's womb?
Jesus said,
"That which is born of the flesh is flesh, and that which is born of the Spirit is spirit."
John 3:6 NASB
 
Whispered said:
Yes, that's what he said. (The Book of John chapter 1)
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He said, " The Word becomes flesh
When you claim your inheritance as a believer for healing, provision, protection deliverance and Spiritual growth and God honors your request…………..The Word became flesh".

Which is way off the map. To answer your other question of me.
 
Whispered said:
Cryptic remarks don't assist in explaining what you actually mean to say. Would you clarify precisely what you're referring to as regards the OP?
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He and I have had further conversation.
What I said was clear enough.
 
Whispered said:
As what I said was clear enough. The Book of John chapter 1 tells us the word became flesh when Immanuel/Jesus was born. There's no conflict there. Why pick a fight when there is none necessary.
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What he said was, "
The Word becomes flesh
When you claim your inheritance as a believer for healing, provision, protection deliverance and Spiritual growth and God honors your request…………..The Word became flesh".
And that's what I refuted.
 
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Locoponydirtman said:
What he said was, "
The Word becomes flesh
When you claim your inheritance as a believer for healing, provision, protection deliverance and Spiritual growth and God honors your request…………..The Word became flesh".
And that's what I refuted.
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Not with scripture.

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The Epistle of Saul/Paul to the Ephesians chapter 2:18 For through him we both have access in one Spirit to the Father. 19 So then you are no longer strangers and aliens,[d] but you are fellow citizens with the saints and members of the household of God, 20 built on the foundation of the apostles and prophets, Christ Jesus himself being the cornerstone, 21 in whom the whole structure, being joined together, grows into a holy temple in the Lord. 22 In him you also are being built together into a dwelling place for God by[e] the Spirit.
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Verse Concepts
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Creatio ex nihilo does not represents that nothing existed before the heaven and earth was brought into existence. But it does reflect the nature of the eternal God as consisting of no matter, which occupies no space at any time. But being unchangeable, if nothing existed before the heaven and earth, then nothing will exist after the heaven and earth.

"Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." [Luke 13:24]
 
The word became flesh.It comes comes as a promised demonstration (Isaiah 53)of the father not seen working the the Son of man seen .A sign to the whole world that he was the God of all nations ..Up until Jesus came God spoke through unclean vessels the prophets. In the last days directly through Jesus as a living parable. His daily bread doing the will of the father not seen perfectly. The food the disciples knew not of and neither could without the help of His father.

Hebrews 1 King James Version (KJV) God, who at sundry times and in divers manners spake in time past unto the fathers by the prophets, Hath in these last days spoken unto us by his Son, whom he hath appointed heir of all things, by whom also he made the worlds;

And the "word of the father" became the demonstrative work of the flesh, in order to do what the letter of the law death could not condemn sin in the flesh .Flesh was needed to demonstrate.. . .
 
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UnoiAmarah said:
Creatio ex nihilo does not represents that nothing existed before the heaven and earth was brought into existence. But it does reflect the nature of the eternal God as consisting of no matter, which occupies no space at any time. But being unchangeable, if nothing existed before the heaven and earth, then nothing will exist after the heaven and earth.

"Strive to enter in at the strait gate: for many, I say unto you, will seek to enter in, and shall not be able." [Luke 13:24]
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Rudiments look to a Faithful Creator for existence. Let there be as request of faith. . and there was a work of believing seen with the eyes . .Called a work of faith . His faith worked to create atoms and molecules . He works all things to the good of his pleasure.

The new heavens and earth does exist its in hiding kept by a promise to the last day . All of his work was finished in 6 days. What took him so long?

And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.These are the generations (plural) of the heavens and of the earth when they (plural)were created, in the day (singular) that the Lord God made the earth and the heavens, Genesis 2
 
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