Demons in our Church.

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Blik

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Demons are led to our churches to fight God effectively. They try to plant ideas in its members that oppose God.

Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin. If we don’t have sin to take to Christ for cleaning out from our life there is no need for Christ. This is easy for demons to do, for God took away the laws governing the rituals He gave us to guide us to God’s law so demons only have to convince us it was all law God took away. They have only to say that when scripture speaks of the law of Moses, as it sometimes calls these laws taken away, scripture means the laws of the Lord.

Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
 
JaumeJ

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Blik said:
Demons are led to our churches to fight God effectively. They try to plant ideas in its members that oppose God.

Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin. If we don’t have sin to take to Christ for cleaning out from our life there is no need for Christ. This is easy for demons to do, for God took away the laws governing the rituals He gave us to guide us to God’s law so demons only have to convince us it was all law God took away. They have only to say that when scripture speaks of the law of Moses, as it sometimes calls these laws taken away, scripture means the laws of the Lord.

Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
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May all read and understand this inspired post, amen. In Jesus, Yeshua, amen.
 
SpiritDove05

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he wants 2 destroy peoples faith by destroying the church and filling it with false doctrine!!
 
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Micaiah-imla

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Put on the whole armour of God, that ye may be able to stand against the wiles (tricks) of the devil (Ephesians 6:11).

The devil's children pervert the right ways of the Lord (Acts 13:10).

The scripture warns falling into the snare (trap) of the devil (1 Timothy 3:7; 2 Timothy 2:26).

Some will depart from the faith giving heed to seducing spirits and doctrines of devils (1 Timothy 4:1).

The devil walks about seeking whom he may devour (1 Peter 5:8).

He that commits sin is of the devil (1 John 3:8).

Satan fills hearts to lie against God (Acts 5:3).

Satan hath power over the unbeliever (Acts 26:18).

One who lacks self control can be temped by Satan (1 Corinthians 7:5).

Satan can gain an advantage on those who are unforgiving (2 Corinthians 2:10-11).

Satan is transformed into an angel of light (2 Corinthians 11:14).

Satan hinders (1 Thessalonians 2:18).
 
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Blik said:
Demons are led to our churches to fight God effectively. They try to plant ideas in its members that oppose God.

Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin. If we don’t have sin to take to Christ for cleaning out from our life there is no need for Christ. This is easy for demons to do, for God took away the laws governing the rituals He gave us to guide us to God’s law so demons only have to convince us it was all law God took away. They have only to say that when scripture speaks of the law of Moses, as it sometimes calls these laws taken away, scripture means the laws of the Lord.

Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
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Demons also enslave Christians making them think they need to keep the law "legalistically" as the unbelieving Jews did. Love of God and People obeys the Law at a spiritual level as Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount. Paul says Love fulfills the Law.
 
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Blik said:
Demons are led to our churches to fight God effectively. They try to plant ideas in its members that oppose God.

Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin. If we don’t have sin to take to Christ for cleaning out from our life there is no need for Christ. This is easy for demons to do, for God took away the laws governing the rituals He gave us to guide us to God’s law so demons only have to convince us it was all law God took away. They have only to say that when scripture speaks of the law of Moses, as it sometimes calls these laws taken away, scripture means the laws of the Lord.

Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
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so, now anyone who disagrees with your judeaizer lies is a demon .

it sure is easy to put yourself on a religious high horse and dehumanize any who disagree with you.

as far as the Law, have you read Leviticus 26 yet, where God explains exactly who is under the Law??
 
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Do we then make void the law through faith? God forbid: yea, we establish the law (ROMANS 3:31).
 
MessageOfTheCross

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Post #1 is a perfect example of the Believer held in bondage; the Believer is being held captive by an intelligent force, namely Satan and his demon spirits; consequently, these evil powers do not yield to the Band-Aids of man; they will only yield to a superior force, and the only superior force in the universe is the Lord Jesus Christ; the Source of deliverance is always Christ, while the Means of deliverance is always the Cross [Col. 2:14-15]:
 
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Dave-L said:
Demons also enslave Christians making them think they need to keep the law "legalistically" as the unbelieving Jews did. Love of God and People obeys the Law at a spiritual level as Jesus taught in the Sermon on the Mount. Paul says Love fulfills the Law.
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Hat did our beloved Christ teach? There is no conflict. The law is not broken nor done away.
 
Nehemiah6

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SpiritDove05 said:
he wants 2 destroy peoples faith by destroying the church and filling it with false doctrine!!
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If you had some self-awareness, you would include yourself among the ones promoting false doctrines.
 
Nehemiah6

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Blik said:
Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin.
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Another thread to promote the FALSE IDEA that both the Old and the New Covenants are in force at the same time.
 
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Blik said:
Demons are led to our churches to fight God effectively. They try to plant ideas in its members that oppose God.

Some preach the law has been cancelled, so with no law it is OK to sin. If we don’t have sin to take to Christ for cleaning out from our life there is no need for Christ. This is easy for demons to do, for God took away the laws governing the rituals He gave us to guide us to God’s law so demons only have to convince us it was all law God took away. They have only to say that when scripture speaks of the law of Moses, as it sometimes calls these laws taken away, scripture means the laws of the Lord.

Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
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uh

no

no one here has ever preached the law has been cancelled except for YOU saying that is what members are saying here

no one here has ever preached it is ok to sin except for you lying about it and saying others say it...you are not addressing people outside of this forum; you are talking out both sides of your mouth and your private interpretations and attempting once again to conflate and confuse people with the actual gospel

you get angry when people here refute your hypocritical speech and the fact you make up what others have said and continue to say

I would suggest to you that the demons are already in people and many false and confusing teachings are presented by them THROUGH people

read what the scripture states about 'doctrines of demons' and teaching spirits...evil spirits who teach through people who have been deceived by them

get it straight.....we have consistently said it is not ok to sin and the law applies to those who do not accept God's gift of mercy and forgiveness through His Son

the law DOES NOT apply to Christians who follow Christ and are now a part of His body

the law was a shadow and indicated of the better things to come

that is what we are saying here, that is what we have said here and that is what we will continue to say in this forum

that is also why you receive the criticism that you do. that, and the fact that you actually deny that anyone other than you has ever posted scripture and if you do not outright deny it, you will say that you have studied for x amount of years and should therefore be above everyone else here

only the blood of Christ shed for us is acceptable to God for the forgiveness of sins

no performance art, no silly ritualistic following of things meant for the Jews and no personal study which actually contradicts the Bible and contradicts salvation and the gospel
 
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7seasrekeyed

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gb9 said:
so, now anyone who disagrees with your judeaizer lies is a demon .

it sure is easy to put yourself on a religious high horse and dehumanize any who disagree with you.

as far as the Law, have you read Leviticus 26 yet, where God explains exactly who is under the Law??
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well, she would have to believe that in order to continue in the deception she has accepted
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Blik said:
Demons find it popular and simple to teach that as God counsels Israel in the OT it is not about eternal ways of God so not for gentiles to learn from, but only national Israel. It is used by them to take away from God’s power in the Christian’s life.
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actually, the reverse is true

the demonic deception that the law was or is what saves, contradicts the Bible and enslaves gullible people who think somehow to improve on God's salvation

by our new nature, through the Spirit of God, Whom we receive when we accept Christ and believe in Him, we know better than to deliberately break what God says is good. God writes His 'law' on our hearts but Jesus summed up the entire law anyway

however not understanding this, leads to useless acts of the flesh and a carnal desire to be good

it leads to self righteousness and condemnation of others who do not do as the law keeper thinks they should do

we have no 'extra' power when we mistakenly believe we must pretend to be Jewish

God's power in our life is the invisible Holy Spirit indwelling the believer and EMPOWERING the person to live for Christ

nothing else!
 
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Damon's deny the deity of Jesus Christ, and the effectual powerful working of his sacrifice on the cross and his resurrection.
 
Blik

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gb9 said:
so, now anyone who disagrees with your judeaizer lies is a demon .

it sure is easy to put yourself on a religious high horse and dehumanize any who disagree with you.

as far as the Law, have you read Leviticus 26 yet, where God explains exactly who is under the Law??
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Are you actually telling us that if we want to live following Christ we are Judaizing as scripture tells us not to do?
 
JaumeJ

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beware of antigentilistic individuals in the guise of believers. This would include that synagogue of Satan.

Most times here in the forum they cloak themselves in the veil of Moses not understanding what they are saying and how the law is now conformed to our hearts since our Lord has fulfilled the major number of them.

Let them rant, and continue obeying kGod under the grace of the Blood of our Savior, the Lamb of God. There is no shame in obedience but disobedience is akin to witchcraft fo our Father.
 
Nehemiah6

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Blik said:
Are you actually telling us that if we want to live following Christ we are Judaizing as scripture tells us not to do?
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To follow Christ is to abandon Moses. You can't have it both ways.
 
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