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Locoponydirtman
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Huh, I read a passage in the Bible that says something to the effect of, those the father's gives me I will not lose one. So it seems to me that Jesus said 100% of Christians will be with him in heaven.
99.9% of Professing Christians will spend eternity in the Lake of Fire
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Oh c'mon... Anderson's good for entertainment! Just bring popcorn.
Methinks the troll has succeeded... in uniting the board in our rejection of his message.
Troll. Made the post and ran and didn't stay to defend their claim.
endday,
Although the scripture says:
For many are called, but few are chosen. (MATTHEW 22:14).
To place a percentage on those who are chosen is unwise, though probably intentional to draw this kind of attention.
Although the scripture says:
For many are called, but few are chosen. (MATTHEW 22:14).
To place a percentage on those who are chosen is unwise, though probably intentional to draw this kind of attention.
its a personal relationship with God and Jesus, then you claim your salvation. Following the law wont do it, as good works don't get you to heaven. Its only because of Gods patience and generosity that will get you there, nothing else. No one can come close to the glory of Jesus but they are expected to try. Good try though
God allowed His Son to die so that 100% could be saved. Why so negative?
I personally hold out hope that many people will choose Jesus and live. So I respectfully disagree with your percentage.
My odds of being alive right now are one in 1200 according to the fire chief in our city here. 99.9% is one in 1,000 so I have already beat your odds. I think that one third are going to be saved and 10% represent God to take their priesthood serious. "This third I will put into the fire; I will refine them like silver and test them like gold. They will call on my name and I will answer them; I will say, 'They are my people,' and they will say, 'The LORD is our God.'" (Zechariah 13:9) "I will preserve a remnant of the people of Israel and of Judah to possess my land." (Isaiah 65:9)
I think that everyone is written in the Lambs book of life from the foundation of the world. So from God's perspective He has provided for all to be saved. Only clearly there are names blotted out of His book. "The LORD replied to Moses, "Whoever has sinned against Me, I will blot out of My book." (Exodus 32:33)
"The one who is victorious will, like them, be dressed in white. I will never blot out the name of that person from the book of life, but will acknowledge that name before my Father and his angels". (Rev 3:5)
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SheepSheep
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I know that only God and Jesus know the percentage of those who will be saved. In Revelation 14:1 "There before me was the Lamb, ..., and with him 144,000 who had his name and his father's name written on their foreheads". In Revelation 14:3 " no one could learn the song except for the 144,000 who had been redeemed from the earth". The Bible says, in John 3:16 "... whoever believes in him should not perish but have everlasting life". Never say someone will go to hell. You don't know. God knows their beliefs, and their heart.
By definition many is more than half or a majority. Few is less than half or a minority. "I will bring the one-third through the fire, Will refine them as silver is refined, And test them as gold is tested. They will call on My name, And I will answer them" (Zech 13:9)
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Romans 10:9 That if you confess with your mouth that "Jesus is Lord", and believe in your heart that God raised him from the dead, you will be saved.
This represents 12,000 from each of the 12 tribes of Israel. These are the people what are pure and will serve God during the Tribulation period. They already have a gene identified for the Cohens. No one questions that they are pure and undefiled.
"As a mystical concept, the number 36 is even more intriguing. It is said that at all times there are 36 special people in the world, and that were it not for them, all of them, if even one of them was missing, the world would come to an end. The two Hebrew letters for 36 are the lamed, which is 30, and the vav, which is 6. Therefore, these 36 are referred to as the Lamed-Vav Tzadikim. This widely-held belief, this most unusual Jewish concept is based on a Talmudic statement to the effect that in every generation 36 righteous "greet the Shekhinah", the Divine Presence (Tractate Sanhedrin 97b; Tractate Sukkah 45b).[1] (Wiki)
How can an eternal God show patience? He does not change, we are the ones that change.
"The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance." (2Peter 3:9)
Looks like another troll has made his appearance.
I'd have to say your estimation is probably close if you're speaking about professing Christians in the United States.
Go to your favorite Christian statistic site and browse the polls, Click Here, warning it can be a little sad.
You'll find stats like only 60% of Christians believe in the God of the Bible. And 80% of Christians believe in an everlasting reward (heaven) but of those same folks only 60% believe in an everlasting punishment (hell). "Heaven? Sounds good to me. Hell? Nah I don't believe in that."
Apparently 65% of Americans are Christian which gives us approximately 212m professing Christians in this country, and we know that aint right lol. I live in North Florida, which is considered the Bible belt, my county has approximately 100k people which means there should be approximately 65k people filling the pews each Sunday Lol. Some well respected theologians estimate that only about 5% of professing Christians are truly saved. Using the 5% estimation would amount to 5k believers in my town, sadly I don't think there's half that in all the churches combined on Sunday morning. I attend a small church with approximately 150 people and I would say the 5% estimate could be pretty close at 7.5 Christians in my local congregation lol. I'm not even sure my pastor is Christian or understands salvation if he is. He just did a series on Saturday sabbath and how we should be keeping the law, which I could overlook if every other sermon he preached wasn't unintentionally works based. It's rough out there folks, hope y'all have a good church in your area.
hmm by that definition, i could have an infinite set, take an infinite number that's less than half of it, and call that "few"
ex:
there are an infinite number of integers, {. . -3, -2, -1, 0, 1, 2, 3, . . }
the positive integers plus 0 are a majority of the integers, and the positive numbers without 0 {1, 2, 3, . .} are a minority
there are an infinite number of positive integers
so with your definition, i can have an infinite number of integers, but they are "few"
If this statement was true it would have been more helpful to explain how to avoid it, but as the whole idea is nonsense
anyway why bother?
anyway why bother?