Putting Stumbling Blocks in Front of God’s People and Destroying the Earth

[Mychael]

In my opinion, when we don't pay attention to the gentle pull of the reins, we eventually get the spurs. 5G is a military developed technology. Dispersing crowds is but the tip of the iceberg. Its hidden higher agenda is related to how they deployed it in 1991 desert storm. They actually are said to have talked into the minds of the warring Iraqi army fighters telling them that Allah wants them to lay down their weapons and give them to the advancing us army. Search it out on youtube there is still some info about it on the net.
Pay attention also to what happened to the diplomats in Cuba. Very harmful technology you can't see......get it?
This, the virus, the desire to go back to our way of life before this will confuse people that didn't see it coming this way.
A state of shock will come to many and the assertiveness necessary deciding what to do will escape many people resulting going back to animalistic behaviors state of mind, and I, ME, Mine mindset will will be many's thought pattern. God will be not be first train of thought for many as the infrastructure and fabric that holds our worlds in place and most modern inventions fail. The invisible (to most) walls will lead to a path we can get off of. Christians that never developed their focuses in time will lose their identities. I call out to all who call themselves spiritual.....know when your pushed toward your extremes how you react. Know who you are and who you serve for this will be our finest hour and our worst for many in my opinion. I can talk about this but won't be able to help you....this will be something everyone will have to work out between their God and their conscience and the lifestyles they have chosen.. Prepare, get your houses in order change will be quick.

 

[Whispered]

There is nothing to stop you (or anyone else) from walking away from all this and going into the wilderness. There are always choices. Snail mail is still around also.

The real problem is the herd mentality which is drilled into young people and carries through into life. Everyone wants to be a copy cat. Faddism is deliberately promoted by commercial enterprises, but no one needs to follow fads. The TV can be turned off and left off as long as one chooses. iPhones started out as a fad and now they are an actual addiction - just like drugs, dope, alcohol, gambling, etc. Flip phones were just fine and they can still be purchased.

There are even television shows where camera crews follow people living off the grid and primitive compared to the usual standard of modern cultures. "Alaska Bush People", is one such show. There are many others as well.

It's a choice. However, I'd suggest one be healthy and hardy before setting out on such a quest. Nature doesn't care about you. If you're unable to handle it you will die.

 

[Mychael]

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Interesting perspective.
After you deliver your message to the Christian forums you believe should hear this, are you going off the grid?

I have been working to let go of the world and its been hard for a small town boy initially to city boy then to country Man. Yes At some point I need to walk away and know how to survive, but for all I know, I still might have to go back to the city like Peter, for my ending.....as spiritually as I am I don't see the rapture being shown for me, I see standing up for the Light and seeing satan and his demon spirits, looking him in the eyes as I am martred and seeing only Gods face and people on the other side. Does that make sense?

 

[Whispered]

I have been working to let go of the world and its been hard for a small town boy initially to city boy then to country Man. Yes At some point I need to walk away and know how to survive, but for all I know, I still might have to go back to the city like Peter, for my ending.....as spiritually as I am I don't see the rapture being shown for me, I see standing up for the Light and seeing satan and his demon spirits, looking him in the eyes as I am martred and seeing only Gods face and people on the other side. Does that make sense?

If you have a martyr complex, yes.
I see it like those who think they are able to save the earth. Certainly we do our part not to pollute the planet, our home world, so that her condition doesn't compound due to our irresponsibility. However, save Earth? She's saved herself for millennia. Humans are a parasite here, we take, we don't give back. When we've done enough to foul our water and air, we'll be put to an end and earth will go on.
Same in that sense of salvation and survival as far as God and His kingdom in Heaven and on Earth is concerned. God is God. Truth is truth. God doesn't require puny humans to save anything of His. We aren't even able to save ourselves. However, there are loads of evil people who hate the people of God , as we know, just look at the headlines in the last few years, who are more than happy to take our lives. Especially if we're under the delusion we're dying to save God. Think about how that sounds.
I
died
so
that
God
would
be
Saved.

My advice, pretty much what I gave a Christian scientist that was desperately ill and wouldn't see a doctor. Maybe consider that God led people to have the intellect so as to create medicines and surgical procedures, because in the dark ages when prayer was all they had and suffered so horribly unto death, God realized suffering wasn't what we deserved. So He inspired medicines and surgeries that we may be saved from sickness.
Thank God she listened and went to a doctor.
So as for your wanting to go off the grid, maybe it is the same thing in matters of idealizing the primitive. Maybe consider God inspired the minds that came to discover electricity, masonry, carpentry (Jesus and Joseph were both carpenters, which was a highly prized profession in first century Palestine), plumbing, especially indoor, thank you God!
Why think this is a bad thing when the worlds people lived in the primitive manner you idealize as superior to what we have now, and coupled with primitive healing practices that did work at times but not always, were miserable, and with a life expectancy far shorter than we have now.

Do something good with what advances we have the privilege of enjoying today. Don't renounce them, thinking less is better when back when less was the norm a great many people prayed for more; electricity, and indoor plumbing, and heating systems and AC.

 

[Angela53510]

Escapism doesn't work. It isn't even Biblical!

Before I was saved, I moved out to the wilderness for 7 years. No power, no running water, and lots of isolation. I still drove 30 miles to town for groceries, but grew a lot of my own food, too.

It didn't work! I realized only recently, the reason I did it was because I had been fed so many lies about the world ending, I ran away to escape. I can't imagine how awful it must be to be a young person today, with all the worldly apocalyptic screaming there is today.

I went back to university, met my husband and moved to the big city where I could finish my degree, and he got work. I realized I never wanted to live without power and water again, unless it was the only thing left to do.

As a Christian, God never says, "withdraw forever from society!" In fact he says the opposite! "Go into the world and preach the gospel!" Mark 16:15

That is a call to be with people, not to run away. Well, that is my opinion, anyway!

 

[Lightskin]

Automobiles are my stumbling block.

 

[Whispered]

It may be helpful at this juncture to note that if someone is considering living off the grid in America they may wish to do research in their state of choice. The Federal government is trying to make off grid living illegal. And many states have already done just that. https://duckduckgo.com/?t=ffsb&q=ostates+of+grid+living+illegal&ia=web

Also, living off the grid, homesteading as it is also known as, is part of scripture. When we live in the world, according to the rules of the world, we become in debt to "Caesar". Mortgages, light bills, sewer bills which are part of our property tax, gas bills. All modern necessities that we've come to rely on and feel comfortable with.
However, if monies are short, we can lose all that we thought was our security. We can become homeless because we didn't own our house, the bank did.
And if your utilities are shut off you could say, well now I'll live off the grid and still survive.
Really?
The utility company is still owed. They can move to take your property for back debt that isn't paid off. Meanwhile, they can report you to the state health and human services department because you have no running water, (really risky if you have kids), no electricity, no gas accounts showing active on your property.
Then, CPS knocks and your kids can get taken away because of unsafe living conditions.
The other consideration is, living off the grid is in the scripture as we know, and it does bring one closer to God when we have to survive and sustain ourselves by our own labors.
That's the other side of the coin. It is doable but you have to know how to do it right.

One way to do that is, if you buy a house, or inherit, do not register your deed with the state. The former owner, in the case of purchasing a home, has to fill out their paperwork as far as transfer of property/deed. You the buyer do not have to do anything. Your paperwork as new owner was filed by the former owner. Keep your deed to yourself and you do not risk loss of your property to the state. And better yet? No property taxes. No utility taxes.
I know someone who lived this way for two years. It is literally your private property. State agents aren't even allowed to enter your property.

The best way to find out if you're cut out for off grid living is to go camping for a month.

The Amish have lived off the grid for generations and they're doing just fine. Amish community is descended from the old Anabaptist tradition. Mennonite also descended from Anabaptist tradition and became known as the Brethren and the Hutterites.

Resources:
Lehman's Catalog - off grid living.
Foxfire Series: 14 book set , how-to live off the grid. This is an old series of books but the information is still applicable today.

 

[Whispered]

Automobiles are my stumbling block.

Seriously. Walking five miles in mid July heat puts Air Conditioned cars into a positive perspective.

Then again, a gas powered adult tricycle with baskets installed and a giant golf umbrella for shade has its advantages.

 

[Whispered]

Pinterest SHTF/Homesteading

Another consideration is, when you live now with ameneties you can see how you'd fare off grid by simply not utilizing the electricity, or gas , say for cooking. Though the indoor plumbing is a Godsend I will say.
And since I presented both sides one last thought? Why look askance at the blessing God has bestowed if your able to live on the grid? As suggested prior, if you want to know how it is to live off grid go camping for a month. It will likely get very old very fast. Go in both summer and then winter so as to see what it would be like all year round. Freezing, with nothing to heat your abode but the wood you find. Sweating and over heated , depending on the region you live in, with no AC.
And again, no indoor plumbing! No toilet, no hot shower. Though in summer solar showers are possible, and there are solar showers at a reasonable price. But in winter, while you can heat up water and let it cool enough to not melt the receptacle that holds the water for that solar shower set up is a different experience all together.
We take what we have now for granted I think. And dreams of having it better without the amenities we enjoy now are imagined as doable from that place of comfort.
Our ancestors would have loved the "luxury" we have now. My maternal grandparents lived off the grid from birth until five years before they passed on. The kids putting their monies together and buying them a fully outfitted house so they'd enjoy the late years of their life without the struggle. I was visiting until I was eight years old. I loved it because we were with my favorite grandparents but it was a hard life.
Washing clothes didn't just happen as a matter of throwing a load in the washer and waiting for the washer chime to let us know when the laundry was done. It was washing by hand in an old timey washer and wringing the clothes out and then hanging them up in front of the fireplace to dry in winter, or on the line in summer.
The oven and stove operated with firewood but boy did that homemade cornbread taste scrumptious. All things I enjoyed because as a child I didn't have to do the work to make it enjoyable after the fact.
And then there was the dread outhouse. In winter! Summer was ten times worse. Gads!

 

[Nehemiah6]

Automobiles are my stumbling block.

That's probably because you want Ferraris. Get a Focus.

 

[Nehemiah6]

It's a choice. However, I'd suggest one be healthy and hardy before setting out on such a quest. Nature doesn't care about you. If you're unable to handle it you will die.

Christians who wish to isolate themselves (just like monks and hermits) should remember that that is contrary to the Gospel and what Christians are supposed to do while on earth.

And yes, Nature does not favor the foolhardy.

 

[Whispered]

That's probably because you want Ferraris. Get a Focus.

Seriously! What gives. Everyone knows Lotus is superior.

 

[Whispered]

Christians who wish to isolate themselves (just like monks and hermits) should remember that that is contrary to the Gospel and what Christians are supposed to do while on earth.

Poor John the Baptizer had no clue.

And yes, Nature does not favor the foolhardy.

True.

 

[Lightskin]

That's probably because you want Ferraris. Get a Focus.

All I ask is for people to put down their phones, use their blinkers and for slow drivers get out of the fast lane. 😎

 

[Nehemiah6]

Poor John the Baptizer had no clue.

John the Baptizer was no hermit. You are confusing him with some other person.

And there went out unto him all the land of Judaea, and they of Jerusalem, and were all baptized of him in the river of Jordan, confessing their sins.

The crowds which came to John must have been huge. The population of Jerusalem at that time has been estimated at about 40,000, and all of Judea could easily have been ten times that (400,000).

 

[JamOn]

Putting Stumbling Blocks in Front of God’s People and Destroying the Earth

Malachi 2:7 7"For the lips of a priest ought to preserve knowledge, because he is the messenger of the LORD Almighty and people seek instruction from his mouth
I’ve involved myself on Christian Forums for the first time in my life starting in Dec. 2019.
It is my conscience that TV’s, Computers, Internet, Cell Phones, Artificial Intelligence, a lot of Man created Technologies, the Energies that give those Inventions their artificial Life and Light are stumbling blocks put in front of God’s People. A part of the Endtimes Strong Delusion as in:

And you use a computer to relay this what you posted, if computers are a stumbling block a strong delusion and you believe that then why did you post using a computer has your post been a stumbling block a delusion.

 

[Mychael]

Folks some good feedback thank you all. My main goal is to show conscience, to be a difference. I cannot say where God wants you to be, what you should say or do, you have to know yourself.....You won't be able to blame anyone but yourself. Personally I had everything a man could want in my life then had it taken' continuing without anything I had before except The Lord I wasn't listening to in my heart. Could ou be happy if you lost family, friends and possessions? I did, I had to find happiness without those things anymore. And that is where I re-found my God and Identity. I wrote a poem about it but never finished it. I tried to say it plain and simple:

There is a man I know that had a big part in the play
He mess up so bad that they told him he couldn’t stay
His wife and family left him just like his career all gone after just one day
A price so great he didn’t know he’d have to pay
For years hanging on, not knowing what to do or say
A world without color nothing but shades of gray
Stumbling in darkness not knowing his way
One day he remembered a lifeline given to him as a child
Whenever everyone else given up on you, still smile
The Lord is in your heart don't forget through time
Your a messenger of the Almighty's, and Your Heart is made after Mine
Speak what words were written on your heart for you to say
They were given to be repeated so people would be ready that day
Come out of Babylon My people or take part in her plagues of destruction
Wait to long and you will leave with nothing but rags and won't know how to function
I haven't finished this poem for my life is not quite done
Its for all people who claim to be Children of the Son

 

[Mychael]

And you use a computer to relay this what you posted, if computers are a stumbling block a strong delusion and you believe that then why did you post using a computer has your post been a stumbling block a delusion.

You won't find any of my postings before 3 months ago on the Internet. I did this with the permission of Authority.....a last call before the fall.
I am a Messenger.
Now in America the culling will start. Its not how much time we got its what you do with your time, and do we listen?

 

[Mychael]

Different things are required for different ages. After the age of the gentiles then the endtimes unfold. It catches most who don't understand the whole scriptures given, just parts, therefore confusion. You can't receive the Holy Spirit if your Heart isn't right with God.
I am nothing more than a small voice calling out from the wilderness

 

[Mychael]

There is nothing to stop you (or anyone else) from walking away from all this and going into the wilderness. There are always choices. Snail mail is still around also.

The real problem is the herd mentality which is drilled into young people and carries through into life. Everyone wants to be a copy cat. Faddism is deliberately promoted by commercial enterprises, but no one needs to follow fads. The TV can be turned off and left off as long as one chooses. iPhones started out as a fad and now they are an actual addiction - just like drugs, dope, alcohol, gambling, etc. Flip phones were just fine and they can still be purchased.

Seeds can grow, it's what seeds you want to grow otherwise we may not like the fruit as we realize their true natures.