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Antichrist is only a name used to describe this person called by various names and designations in Scripture. So to say there is "no mention of Antichrist, anywhere in the book of Daniel" doesn't mean much. Example: It does not mean either much if I say that there is no mention of the Devil anywhere in the Old Testament (which is true, by the way!)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course
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On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course
)On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course
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Antichrist is only a name used to describe this person called by various names and designations in Scripture. So to say there is "no mention of Antichrist, anywhere in the book of Daniel" doesn't mean much. Example: It does not mean either much if I say that there is no mention of the Devil anywhere in the Old Testament (which is true, by the way!)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course)
On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course
)On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course
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It fits that way according to the witness of men or the things of men and not those of God not seen. .There are many ideas in that way. Some say Jesus did not exist.
Rightly diving between the things of God not seen the eternal and those of men seen the temporal must be distinguished if we are to hear what the Holy Spirits says to the churches. .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16:22-23
The Bible in 1 John informs us there were many antichrists there under the influence of spirit of the antichrist "Satan". The same antichrist that was in the garden that said . . You will not surely die. . the spirit of the antichrist is used in respect to those who hold the things of men the temporal above the things of God the unseen eternal .. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus .
Jesus as the Son on man had no power to rebuke the Satan. Something attributed the father as Lord not seen. The father gave His Son the words to rebuke the spirit of lies.
There are may antichrists today just as in the beging of the last days .the time of refomation. His motive of operation revealed in 1 John A great warning to help us hear more adequately
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing
Rightly diving between the things of God not seen the eternal and those of men seen the temporal must be distinguished if we are to hear what the Holy Spirits says to the churches. .
Then Peter took him, and began to rebuke him, saying, Be it far from thee, Lord: this shall not be unto thee. But he turned, and said unto Peter, Get thee behind me, Satan: thou art an offence unto me: for thou savourest not the things that be of God, but those that be of men. Mathew 16:22-23
The Bible in 1 John informs us there were many antichrists there under the influence of spirit of the antichrist "Satan". The same antichrist that was in the garden that said . . You will not surely die. . the spirit of the antichrist is used in respect to those who hold the things of men the temporal above the things of God the unseen eternal .. Peter was forgiven of his blasphemy against the Son of man, Jesus .
Jesus as the Son on man had no power to rebuke the Satan. Something attributed the father as Lord not seen. The father gave His Son the words to rebuke the spirit of lies.
There are may antichrists today just as in the beging of the last days .the time of refomation. His motive of operation revealed in 1 John A great warning to help us hear more adequately
18 Little children, it is the last time: and as ye have heard that antichrist shall come, even now are there many antichrists; whereby we know that it is the last time.
19 They went out from us, but they were not of us; for if they had been of us, they would no doubt have continued with us: but they went out, that they might be made manifest that they were not all of us.
20 But ye have an unction from the Holy One, and ye know all things.
21 I have not written unto you because ye know not the truth, but because ye know it, and that no lie is of the truth.
22 Who is a liar but he that denieth that Jesus is the Christ? He is antichrist, that denieth the Father and the Son.
23 Whosoever denieth the Son, the same hath not the Father: he that acknowledgeth the Son hath the Father also.
24 Let that therefore abide in you, which ye have heard from the beginning. If that which ye have heard from the beginning shall remain in you, ye also shall continue in the Son, and in the Father.
25 And this is the promise that he hath promised us, even eternal life.
26 These things have I written unto you concerning them that seduce you.
27 But the anointing which ye have received of him abideth in you, and ye need not that any man teach you: but as the same anointing
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Well, according to scripture, I should not give you "my" "interpretation", as that would be incorrect, but that I should give you God's "interpretation" for it is God which interpreted in the word, for instance, see Genesis 40:8; 2 Peter 1:20; Daniel 2:38; Luke 24:45; Isaiah 8:20; Isaiah 28:10,13, etc. Please do not take offense that I have said this, but just for clarification.
It is not my, yours, or theirs that matters. It is only God's. God's word defines itself, and is a self contained dictionary, thesaurus, math tables, etc.
Now, I can share what God stated. I will do so in the next post.
It is not my, yours, or theirs that matters. It is only God's. God's word defines itself, and is a self contained dictionary, thesaurus, math tables, etc.
Now, I can share what God stated. I will do so in the next post.
OR........They both come out of the same place but OVERLAP. In other words, God gives us Prophecies of two different types, those He wants to be revealed soon, so he makes them easy to understand, and those that can't be revealed clearly until time passes and events designate the factoids as this or that !!
So can Daniel 7's Little Horn also be Daniel 8's Little Horn ? Yes, not only can it be, but it is, and it then explains Daniel 11.
Daniel 7 states the Little Horn will Arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head, I contend that is Europe and not only does it apply to the E.U. but the Anti-Christ's Kingdom must look EXACTLY like his "fathers" kingdom in that it will cover the exact same portions of land, the entire Mediterranean Sea Coast via every square inch of coastline. (none of the others did this, even Greece, but by looking at the Nations he Conquers in Dan. 11:30-43 we can figure this out).
Daniel 8 says the Little Horn will arise out of one of the Four Generals in the End Times (Latter time) so if these are both the same man, and they are, instead of looking at two people, let's see if we can fit it into ONE PERSON, thus God's great prophecy can be solved. Can one person fulfill both prophecies? Yes, the coming Anti-Christ must be born in Greece, because out of the Four Generals kingdoms, ONLY Greece is in the E.U. thus he fulfills both prophecies at once. Thus we had to wait until the end times to see what nations were in this league of nations in order to see which of the Four Generals Kingdoms it would be, but smart people kind of knew via the clues, but they couldn't bank on it until the 1950s.
Now chapter 11 makes much more sense, why would God give us such a DETAILED RUNDOWN of the Greek Kings Lineage ? Psst, its because the Anti-Christ is going to be born there, and his ARCH TYPE is Antiochus Epiphanes, so the chapter ends with Antiochus from verses 21-33 maybe 34 and with the Anti-Christ from verses 36-45. And since he's born in Greece, he can easily be the Assyrian (Turk) because Turkey has a common border with Greece and many Turks live there. I think the False Prophet's arch type is also seen in history via a man named Jason, who bribed Antiochus to be named the Jewish High Priest, his real name was Yeshua, Antiochus killed his brother, Onias III, a Pious High Priest, Jason then tried to Hellenize the Jews which led to the Maccabean Revolt.
I often wondered why Daniel was not given the False Prophet angle but John was, then it hit me, just like King Herod tried to kill baby Jesus because of the prophecy about him, if Daniel had been given the False Prophet angle the Jewish peoples over the next 500 or so years would have killed every other High Priest fearing he was the coming False Prophet. So Daniel was only given this: he will take away THE SACRIFICE {Which is Jesus} and place an Abomination in the Temple. The HE is not the Anti-Christ who doesn't Conquer Jerusalem until the 1260, the HE is the False Prophet who does all this at the 1290, which is 30 days BEFORE the 1260 event.
So can Daniel 7's Little Horn also be Daniel 8's Little Horn ? Yes, not only can it be, but it is, and it then explains Daniel 11.
Daniel 7 states the Little Horn will Arise out of the Fourth Beasts Head, I contend that is Europe and not only does it apply to the E.U. but the Anti-Christ's Kingdom must look EXACTLY like his "fathers" kingdom in that it will cover the exact same portions of land, the entire Mediterranean Sea Coast via every square inch of coastline. (none of the others did this, even Greece, but by looking at the Nations he Conquers in Dan. 11:30-43 we can figure this out).
Daniel 8 says the Little Horn will arise out of one of the Four Generals in the End Times (Latter time) so if these are both the same man, and they are, instead of looking at two people, let's see if we can fit it into ONE PERSON, thus God's great prophecy can be solved. Can one person fulfill both prophecies? Yes, the coming Anti-Christ must be born in Greece, because out of the Four Generals kingdoms, ONLY Greece is in the E.U. thus he fulfills both prophecies at once. Thus we had to wait until the end times to see what nations were in this league of nations in order to see which of the Four Generals Kingdoms it would be, but smart people kind of knew via the clues, but they couldn't bank on it until the 1950s.
Now chapter 11 makes much more sense, why would God give us such a DETAILED RUNDOWN of the Greek Kings Lineage ? Psst, its because the Anti-Christ is going to be born there, and his ARCH TYPE is Antiochus Epiphanes, so the chapter ends with Antiochus from verses 21-33 maybe 34 and with the Anti-Christ from verses 36-45. And since he's born in Greece, he can easily be the Assyrian (Turk) because Turkey has a common border with Greece and many Turks live there. I think the False Prophet's arch type is also seen in history via a man named Jason, who bribed Antiochus to be named the Jewish High Priest, his real name was Yeshua, Antiochus killed his brother, Onias III, a Pious High Priest, Jason then tried to Hellenize the Jews which led to the Maccabean Revolt.
I often wondered why Daniel was not given the False Prophet angle but John was, then it hit me, just like King Herod tried to kill baby Jesus because of the prophecy about him, if Daniel had been given the False Prophet angle the Jewish peoples over the next 500 or so years would have killed every other High Priest fearing he was the coming False Prophet. So Daniel was only given this: he will take away THE SACRIFICE {Which is Jesus} and place an Abomination in the Temple. The HE is not the Anti-Christ who doesn't Conquer Jerusalem until the 1260, the HE is the False Prophet who does all this at the 1290, which is 30 days BEFORE the 1260 event.
Antichrist is only a name used to describe this person called by various names and designations in Scripture. So to say there is "no mention of Antichrist, anywhere in the book of Daniel" doesn't mean much. Example: It does not mean either much if I say that there is no mention of the Devil anywhere in the Old Testament (which is true, by the way!)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course)
On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course)
All I am trying to point out is that your argument that there is "no mention of the Antichrist anywhere in the book of Daniel" is not a good argument. (My opinion, of course
)On another point you say "the little horn of chapter seven is defined as one of the kings/emperors of the Roman Empire". Exactly, I agree. But will we define the "Roman Empire" as secular historians define it or as God defines it? I think God defines the "Roman Empire" as still existing in the world today. (Again, my opinion, of course
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The little HORN is the papacy, HE got the deadly wound in 1798, when France , put the pope in prison, where he died, That separated the Church and state where they did not have the power to kill the Christians any more, till the deadly wound is completely HEALED, And that want be very long now. GOD bless as HE sees fit
OK, then, if we are not to "interpret" the text, I want to see your response . . . !
So you had better not use your own words to say anything about the text . . .
Oh, so then you say "God's Word defines itself, and is a self contained dictionary . . ."
So you are going to use other verses to explain the verse you are trying to understand? OK, but who decides what verse explains the other? Do you, or I, or does the Holy Spirit? My guess you will say the Spirit tells you what verse to use to interpret the other . . . But what if the Spirit gives me a different verse to interpret the verse - Who is right? (I suppose you because you hear the Spirit correctly!!?)
Just trying to point out the fallacy of saying that we should not give an interpretation of Scripture. Everyone who studies and endeavors to understand Scripture must and does interpret it. If you use other verses to interpret it is still you that is determining what the verse means to you.
Should the Spirit be involved in our interpreting Scripture? Absolutely, but please do not claim your own independent access to the Spirit and thus "correct understanding".
So you had better not use your own words to say anything about the text . . .
Oh, so then you say "God's Word defines itself, and is a self contained dictionary . . ."
So you are going to use other verses to explain the verse you are trying to understand? OK, but who decides what verse explains the other? Do you, or I, or does the Holy Spirit? My guess you will say the Spirit tells you what verse to use to interpret the other . . . But what if the Spirit gives me a different verse to interpret the verse - Who is right? (I suppose you because you hear the Spirit correctly!!?)
Just trying to point out the fallacy of saying that we should not give an interpretation of Scripture. Everyone who studies and endeavors to understand Scripture must and does interpret it. If you use other verses to interpret it is still you that is determining what the verse means to you.
Should the Spirit be involved in our interpreting Scripture? Absolutely, but please do not claim your own independent access to the Spirit and thus "correct understanding".
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The Little Horn is A MAN....not the Papacy. READ Daniel, it tells you man !! And Rev. 19 tells us also.
Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
So Daniel 7:11 tells us this BEAST SPEAKS (has a mouth), he is KILLED (slain) and HIS BODY DESTROYED and then cast into hell.
Rev. 10 likewise tells us the same thing, TWO MEN, the False Prophet and the Beast will be CAST INTO HELL !!
Now tell me how a MAN is the Papacy ?
The Little Horn is a Gentile King like all the others were Gentile rulers who Beasted over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region. The False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest in league with the Beast. The RCC angle is a fib from Satan, as is the Islam angle.
Dan. 7:11 I beheld then because of the voice of the great words which the horn spake: I beheld even till the beast was slain, and his body destroyed, and given to the burning flame.
Rev. 19:20 And the beast was taken, and with him the false prophet that wrought miracles before him, with which he deceived them that had received the mark of the beast, and them that worshipped his image. These both were cast alive into a lake of fire burning with brimstone.
So Daniel 7:11 tells us this BEAST SPEAKS (has a mouth), he is KILLED (slain) and HIS BODY DESTROYED and then cast into hell.
Rev. 10 likewise tells us the same thing, TWO MEN, the False Prophet and the Beast will be CAST INTO HELL !!
Now tell me how a MAN is the Papacy ?
The Little Horn is a Gentile King like all the others were Gentile rulers who Beasted over Israel and the Mediterranean Sea Region. The False Prophet will be a Jewish High Priest in league with the Beast. The RCC angle is a fib from Satan, as is the Islam angle.
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That is totally incorrect. The Little Horn is none other that the Antichrist, the MAN of Sin, the SON of Perdition. This man is an individual energized and controlled by Satan in order to deceive the world into thinking that he is the *true* Messiah, and indeed God Himself. All of this is revealed in Daniel, and confirmed in the New Testament.
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Two statements and context gets swept aside, ignored or rejected when it comes to identifying where the Little Horn comes from and his religion.....
a. The fact that he comes out of what was conquered by Alexander the Great and then the wars between the Seleucids and the Ptolomies -->Kings of the North and South (He comes out of the Syria, Turkey, Iraq area) Daniel 10 and 11)
and the two following statements
a. He has no respect unto the GOD (CAPITAL G) of his FATHERS
B. He scrutinizes, acknowledges and promotes a god (small g) that his FATHERS did not know.
He comes from Abraham, Ishmael and the Arabs....NOT ROME!
ABRAHAM and ISHMAEL knew the ONE TRUE GOD (CAPITAL G) and Ishmael was blessed by God but rejected for the lineage which belonged to Isaac
THE god (small g) that ABRAHAM AND ISHMAEL did not know, but that is known and worhipped NOW in the area conquered and divided by ALEXANDER'S GENERALS in the EAST is ALLAH!!!
And the CURRENT POPE AND LAST TWO popes have BOWED to the KORAN and are ATTEMPTING to UNITE all three monotheistic religions under ONE BANNER....CATHOLICS love their idols and both the beast and false prophet will work all lying signs and wonders and GOD will delude ALL LOST MEN to worship the BEAST as god! THE Catholics will bow to the image made by the false prophet (pope)
a. The fact that he comes out of what was conquered by Alexander the Great and then the wars between the Seleucids and the Ptolomies -->Kings of the North and South (He comes out of the Syria, Turkey, Iraq area) Daniel 10 and 11)
and the two following statements
a. He has no respect unto the GOD (CAPITAL G) of his FATHERS
B. He scrutinizes, acknowledges and promotes a god (small g) that his FATHERS did not know.
He comes from Abraham, Ishmael and the Arabs....NOT ROME!
ABRAHAM and ISHMAEL knew the ONE TRUE GOD (CAPITAL G) and Ishmael was blessed by God but rejected for the lineage which belonged to Isaac
THE god (small g) that ABRAHAM AND ISHMAEL did not know, but that is known and worhipped NOW in the area conquered and divided by ALEXANDER'S GENERALS in the EAST is ALLAH!!!
And the CURRENT POPE AND LAST TWO popes have BOWED to the KORAN and are ATTEMPTING to UNITE all three monotheistic religions under ONE BANNER....CATHOLICS love their idols and both the beast and false prophet will work all lying signs and wonders and GOD will delude ALL LOST MEN to worship the BEAST as god! THE Catholics will bow to the image made by the false prophet (pope)
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