Are You Socially Awkward?

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Roughsoul1991

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For all my socially awkward friends. Social awkwardness, social anxiety, and poor social skills is often linked to higher intelligence. So if you struggle in these areas then you are probably more Intelligent than average. The world needs your thoughts, ideas, and opinions.

The foolish of the world often do not know how to stop talking long enough to learn. We need the wise and knowledgeable to speak up and let your brilliance be heard. So dont worry about what others think.

Proverbs 16:16 New International Version (NIV)

16 How much better to get wisdom than gold,
to get insight rather than silver!

Proverbs 1:7 New International Version (NIV)

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Highly intelligent people can lack social skills more than others, and there are good reasons for it.

1. They overthink responses
Intelligent people tend to care what they say in conversation. They place more importance on their words than others, and this can mean they overthink their responses. A lot of casual conversation takes place spontaneously, on automatic pilot. Once you start thinking too much, it gets more difficult to speak without seeming awkward.

2. Ordinary topics might bore them
A major reason why intelligent people can have poor social skills is that they can’t summon up the enthusiasm to join in everyday conversations with people. Men may understand this feeling when listening to women discussing cosmetics, and women may understand it when listening to men analyze a football game.
Some highly intelligent people feel this way about most of the conversation topics of both the sexes.

3. They can find it tough to find common ground with people
Most of the interests of a highly intelligent person will be of limited interest to those of average intelligence. This can mean that subjects that would make the highly intelligent person engaging and enthusiastic in conversation are off bounds because the other person wouldn’t be able to relate.
Two neuroscientists might be very animated when discussing neuroscience, for example, but totally unable to respond in a conversation about celebrity gossip.

4. They’re more self-conscious
One of the disadvantages of higher intelligence can be a higher degree of awareness of oneself and one’s behavior in social interactions. Highly intelligent people may be super conscious of themselves while socializing.
Imagine if you always had critical eyes watching and judging you while you speak. You’d feel like you were on stage and you’d be unable to act naturally. For many highly intelligent people, that critic is in their own heads.

5. They’re more conscious of you too
Another character flaw that can afflict the highly emotionally intelligent is that they can be extremely aware of other people’s responses in conversation. A person with a high emotional quotient can spot the micro-expressions and subtle body language cues in other people, which show when they’re impatient, bored, or not really listening.
This can be crippling because people don’t really listen to others and aren’t genuinely interested in them at least half of the time! Once you’re aware of this, it can be almost impossible to continue a conversation with someone.

6. They’re naturally more anxious
Many correlations have been found in research between higher levels of intelligence and increased levels of generalized as well as social anxiety. Anxiety is a major cause of poor social skills.
The reasons why this might occur are open to speculation. But it could be argued that ignorance is bliss and someone who is really conscious of what the world is realizes that it is a dangerous and unpleasant place. This naturally gives rise to feelings of fear and anxiety.

7. They’re uncomfortable with revealing personal info
The more intelligent a person is, the less comfortable they may be with revealing too much about themselves to people then don’t know well. This is the logical thing to do in many ways, as we all know that there are people around who might use personal information against a person.
It’s reasonable to want to know a person enough to trust them with details about your life that could place you in a position of vulnerability. This has a cost in terms of social skills, though.

8. They hide their vulnerabilities
Following on from the previous point, intelligent people may be extremely cautious about revealing their vulnerabilities. This kind of self-protective behavior may be learnt rather than innate in intelligent people, but intelligent people are more likely to learn from mistakes and change their behavior in response to failures.
The problem with this cautious attitude is that it robs them of essential social skills. People can’t warm to people who are unwilling to reveal their humanity to others. It prevents others sharing with them too.

9. Their impassioned responses about intellectual matters can alienate them
The problems that highly intelligent people have with social skills are not restricted only to the times when they hardly open their mouths. The real damage can occur when they do get talking.

When an intelligent person gets involved in a conversation that happens to interest them, they can become so heated and enthusiastic that people think they are aggressively opinionated, or even that what they’re expressing is anger.

This couldn’t be further from the truth. Intelligent people enjoy a heated debate and aren’t easily offended, nevertheless others mistake impassioned responses for aggressiveness and take offense easily.

10. It’s hard for them to avoid conflict at some point
A highly intelligent person often ends up in conflict with others because it’s difficult for them to let throwaway remarks about things to pass by unnoticed. Intelligent people are highly aware of the importance of ideas and how a bad idea can have terrible consequences for the human race.

For this reason, they’re not likely to let you get away with saying something you haven’t thought through properly like most people would. People tend to take personal offense to being corrected in this way, even if (or especially if) they know they were wrong.
 

Princesse

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Conversational skills and social prowess as aspects of etiquette, not intelligence. In years gone by, children were instructed in both in the home. A mark of good breeding was the demonstration of social grace, artistic competency, and intellectual depth on multiple subjects. They were revealed through discourse and deportment.
 

Nehemiah6

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Social awkwardness, social anxiety, and poor social skills is often linked to higher intelligence.
There you go. We need a slogan or a bumper sticker which says:

I AM AWKWARDLY SMART or perhaps I AM SMARTLY AWKWARD :cool:
 

Roughsoul1991

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Conversational skills and social prowess as aspects of etiquette, not intelligence. In years gone by, children were instructed in both in the home. A mark of good breeding was the demonstration of social grace, artistic competency, and intellectual depth on multiple subjects. They were revealed through discourse and deportment.
https://thoughtcatalog.com/brianna-...ially-anxious-are-usually-highly-intelligent/

There is good evidence to support the correlation of poor social skills with intelligence.
 

Aerials1978

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I would say all of these examples applies to me, but I would question if I had a higher intellect as I still prefer books with pictures in them. LOL!
 

Princesse

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There are a plethora of books including classics and manuals on etiquette which say otherwise. This is a modern problem. Intelligence doesn’t minimize social or conversational skills. You’d need insight on their environment, parental involvement, and childhood experiences.

More importantly, those who suffer with these challenges often attest to sadness, loneliness, and a longing for acceptance and connection. Many have difficulty finding partners and friends.

Intelligence is no different from physical beauty. Some rely on it as their calling card and others view it as an aspect of their person but not the whole. We can be ruled by the mind, heart or flesh. Imbalances yield problems at some point.

The bible tells us knowledge puffs up. Or as Professor Snape would say, “insufferable know-it-alls.” Hermione is a good example of social awkwardness. It was not on account of her intelligence. It was the incessant need to prove herself and a desire to be right that was off-putting.

One of the hallmarks of good conversationalists is the ability to tailor your discourse to the audience. We all benefit from unbiased feedback from those willing to tell the truth. Job seekers role play interviewing and this is no different.

I would test the theory before readily embracing it. :)
 

Lanolin

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hmm I have never discussed cosmetics with other women nor heard them discuss it. Ever.

How would a conversation about cosmetics even start?

I think the only reason one would have to discuss cosmetics would be telling the avon lady to take her sales pitch elsewhere...
 

Lanolin

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We did have a thread about wearing makeup but...is it what God wants..? well no it never occurred to me that His spirit only works if I have lipstick on my lips.
 

Lanolin

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Conversational skills and social prowess as aspects of etiquette, not intelligence. In years gone by, children were instructed in both in the home. A mark of good breeding was the demonstration of social grace, artistic competency, and intellectual depth on multiple subjects. They were revealed through discourse and deportment.
maybe only in those upper class homes hey?

Not many are noble...
 

Princesse

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maybe only in those upper class homes hey?

Not many are noble...
You don’t need to be noble to be mannerly. The absence of resources doesn’t minimize ones ability to be polite or gracious. Both were common in the past and weren’t relegated to certain classes.
 

Lanolin

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You don’t need to be noble to be mannerly. The absence of resources doesn’t minimize ones ability to be polite or gracious. Both were common in the past and weren’t relegated to certain classes.
mmmI think some of the grace is just given by God its not taught by man.
 

Princesse

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hmm I have never discussed cosmetics with other women nor heard them discuss it. Ever.

How would a conversation about cosmetics even start?

I think the only reason one would have to discuss cosmetics would be telling the avon lady to take her sales pitch elsewhere...
You would begin a conversation on makeup the same way you’d begin one on food or any subject of interest. With a question or an opinion.

Most broach the subject with skincare and learn good techniques then move to makeup and look for products that enhance their appearance. Ideally, it should match your lifestyle. Some routines are more simplistic. Others are more involved.

A good esthetician can analyze your skin and make recommendations for its care and upkeep. Many things can be made at home.
 

Lanolin

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#13
For all my socially awkward friends. Social awkwardness, social anxiety, and poor social skills is often linked to higher intelligence. So if you struggle in these areas then you are probably more Intelligent than average. The world needs your thoughts, ideas, and opinions.

The foolish of the world often do not know how to stop talking long enough to learn. We need the wise and knowledgeable to speak up and let your brilliance be heard. So dont worry about what others think.

Proverbs 16:16 New International Version (NIV)

16 How much better to get wisdom than gold,
to get insight rather than silver!

Proverbs 1:7 New International Version (NIV)

7 The fear of the Lord is the beginning of knowledge,
but fools despise wisdom and instruction.

Highly intelligent people can lack social skills more than others, and there are good reasons for it.

1. They overthink responses
Intelligent people tend to care what they say in conversation. They place more importance on their words than others, and this can mean they overthink their responses. A lot of casual conversation takes place spontaneously, on automatic pilot. Once you start thinking too much, it gets more difficult to speak without seeming awkward.

2. Ordinary topics might bore them
A major reason why intelligent people can have poor social skills is that they can’t summon up the enthusiasm to join in everyday conversations with people. Men may understand this feeling when listening to women discussing cosmetics, and women may understand it when listening to men analyze a football game.
Some highly intelligent people feel this way about most of the conversation topics of both the sexes.

3. They can find it tough to find common ground with people
Most of the interests of a highly intelligent person will be of limited interest to those of average intelligence. This can mean that subjects that would make the highly intelligent person engaging and enthusiastic in conversation are off bounds because the other person wouldn’t be able to relate.
Two neuroscientists might be very animated when discussing neuroscience, for example, but totally unable to respond in a conversation about celebrity gossip.

4. They’re more self-conscious
One of the disadvantages of higher intelligence can be a higher degree of awareness of oneself and one’s behavior in social interactions. Highly intelligent people may be super conscious of themselves while socializing.
Imagine if you always had critical eyes watching and judging you while you speak. You’d feel like you were on stage and you’d be unable to act naturally. For many highly intelligent people, that critic is in their own heads.

5. They’re more conscious of you too
Another character flaw that can afflict the highly emotionally intelligent is that they can be extremely aware of other people’s responses in conversation. A person with a high emotional quotient can spot the micro-expressions and subtle body language cues in other people, which show when they’re impatient, bored, or not really listening.
This can be crippling because people don’t really listen to others and aren’t genuinely interested in them at least half of the time! Once you’re aware of this, it can be almost impossible to continue a conversation with someone.

6. They’re naturally more anxious
Many correlations have been found in research between higher levels of intelligence and increased levels of generalized as well as social anxiety. Anxiety is a major cause of poor social skills.
The reasons why this might occur are open to speculation. But it could be argued that ignorance is bliss and someone who is really conscious of what the world is realizes that it is a dangerous and unpleasant place. This naturally gives rise to feelings of fear and anxiety.

7. They’re uncomfortable with revealing personal info
The more intelligent a person is, the less comfortable they may be with revealing too much about themselves to people then don’t know well. This is the logical thing to do in many ways, as we all know that there are people around who might use personal information against a person.
It’s reasonable to want to know a person enough to trust them with details about your life that could place you in a position of vulnerability. This has a cost in terms of social skills, though.

8. They hide their vulnerabilities
Following on from the previous point, intelligent people may be extremely cautious about revealing their vulnerabilities. This kind of self-protective behavior may be learnt rather than innate in intelligent people, but intelligent people are more likely to learn from mistakes and change their behavior in response to failures.
The problem with this cautious attitude is that it robs them of essential social skills. People can’t warm to people who are unwilling to reveal their humanity to others. It prevents others sharing with them too.

9. Their impassioned responses about intellectual matters can alienate them
The problems that highly intelligent people have with social skills are not restricted only to the times when they hardly open their mouths. The real damage can occur when they do get talking.

When an intelligent person gets involved in a conversation that happens to interest them, they can become so heated and enthusiastic that people think they are aggressively opinionated, or even that what they’re expressing is anger.

This couldn’t be further from the truth. Intelligent people enjoy a heated debate and aren’t easily offended, nevertheless others mistake impassioned responses for aggressiveness and take offense easily.

10. It’s hard for them to avoid conflict at some point
A highly intelligent person often ends up in conflict with others because it’s difficult for them to let throwaway remarks about things to pass by unnoticed. Intelligent people are highly aware of the importance of ideas and how a bad idea can have terrible consequences for the human race.

For this reason, they’re not likely to let you get away with saying something you haven’t thought through properly like most people would. People tend to take personal offense to being corrected in this way, even if (or especially if) they know they were wrong.
Interesting I dont know if I agree with all this analysis.
I think some people just blurt out whatever without thinking, and that can come across as confident, even when they are telling a pack of lies. And they know it. Like salespeople. They learn how to be 'social' but in a way that actually cons people.
 

Princesse

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mmmI think some of the grace is just given by God its not taught by man.
God calls us to different paths and missions. What He requires of some isn’t necessary for the next. What’s most important is fulfilling the task we’re given for His glory,
 

Lanolin

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You would begin a conversation on makeup the same way you’d begin one on food or any subject of interest. With a question or an opinion.

Most broach the subject with skincare and learn good techniques then move to makeup and look for products that enhance their appearance. Ideally, it should match your lifestyle. Some routines are more simplistic. Others are more involved.

A good esthetician can analyze your skin and make recommendations for its care and upkeep. Many things can be made at home.
well again upper class can afford this 'lifestyle' because they have income to spend on this sort of thing and be self obsessed with appearances.

Nothing wrong with soap and water...and fresh air.
 

Lanolin

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God calls us to different paths and missions. What He requires of some isn’t necessary for the next. What’s most important is fulfilling the task we’re given for His glory,
In the world, they just call it 'playing the game'. Now if you dont know how to play the game, its just gonna be awkward anyway.

Christians are called to be in the world, but not of it. So I woulnt expect believers to fit in totally with the social whirl.
 

Princesse

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well again upper class can afford this 'lifestyle' because they have income to spend on this sort of thing and be self obsessed with appearances.

Nothing wrong with soap and water...and fresh air.
Why do you emphasize class in your comments? You are aware that God calls people from all walks of life and ministers to them too correct?
 

Princesse

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In the world, they just call it 'playing the game'. Now if you dont know how to play the game, its just gonna be awkward anyway.

Christians are called to be in the world, but not of it. So I woulnt expect believers to fit in totally with the social whirl.
That would depend on how the person conducts themselves. If they seek to incite others through careless words or unkind behavior they’ll probably fare worse than those who lead with love and grace. We reap what we sow.
 

Lanolin

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Why do you emphasize class in your comments? You are aware that God calls people from all walks of life and ministers to them too correct?
Because society is a certain class of people, and there are heaps of people that do not fit into any class. If you do not fit in, its going to be awkward for you socially. People are going to overlook you treat your differently, even ignore you or mock you.

thats the basic thing. Have you never encountered this?

God however, does not see class. eg the Good samaritan, did not ignore the jew. But the levites did.
 

Lanolin

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methinks anyones whos ever been a minority can speak up and say what it means not to fit in and be judged on appearances.

Which happens all the time, unless you happen to be in the majority. some people arent even aware of their bias.