Not By Works

[EleventhHour]

I expect you to use this, Dave.. lol

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That blank look says it all I think!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Galatians 3:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.


Does Yeshua/Jesus have a Human aspect? Does Yeshua/Jesus practice the Law?

Most could care less about what you have to say....you have already proven that you have a corrupt view and do not know what you are talking about.....!!

 

[Rosemaryx]

oh sis i am sorry if i sounded long winded... i tried to add context to the conversation which you replied to then show what it doesnt mean (which some seemed to claim)



When I said we can see the fruits of the self righteous by them looking to themselves to be seen as righteous, that was my explination of what is being said about only the specific sort mentioned just before that verse.

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Beware of false prophets, which come to you in sheep's clothing, but inwardly they are ravening wolves.

16 Ye shall know them by their fruits. Do men gather grapes of thorns, or figs of thistles?

17 Even so every good tree bringeth forth good fruit; but a corrupt tree bringeth forth evil fruit.

18 A good tree cannot bring forth evil fruit, neither can a corrupt tree bring forth good fruit.

19 Every tree that bringeth not forth good fruit is hewn down, and cast into the fire.

20 Wherefore by their fruits ye shall know them.

21 Not every one that saith unto me, Lord, Lord, shall enter into the kingdom of heaven; but he that doeth the will of my Father which is in heaven.

22 Many will say to me in that day, Lord, Lord, have we not prophesied in thy name? and in thy name have cast out devils? and in thy name done many wonderful works?
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this isnt about sinners or sinful believers not being good enough or showing enough fruit



it is specifically about false prophets who point to their works and arent build on solid foundation (Christ)

I understand now...
Thank you for showing the context in which Jesus was speaking , my problem is solved ...

Sometimes I think I am still learning the basics , but I have a desire in my heart to be taught so much more...

I started the OT again on the 1 Jan , just got into the Psalms , God is showing me so much...
I am seeing a bigger picture of the Character of God from the ancient days to now , I love His word...xox...

 

[preacher4truth]

I didn’t know you were a trip. One guy said “Your a trip.” Where? Hawaii?

#CanIGoToo?

Lol, I don’t put any weight in their juvenile responses. They live for this on a forum all day running their mouths, attacking, denying truth. It is ungodly behavior and they live in it.

 

[JohnR7]

Our righteous works have ZERO to do with Salvation!

Righteous works do not save us - saved people do righteous works. This is evidence of their salvation. Some people like to say we are fruit inspectors. WE look to see if the tree is producing fruit. Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Gentleness, Faithfullness & Self Control. If the branch or tree does not produce fruit then it is cut down and thrown into the fire.

 

[OneOfHis]

I understand now...
Thank you for showing the context in which Jesus was speaking , my problem is solved ...

Sometimes I think I am still learning the basics , but I have a desire in my heart to be taught so much more...

I started the OT again on the 1 Jan , just got into the Psalms , God is showing me so much...
I am seeing a bigger picture of the Character of God from the ancient days to now , I love His word...xox...

Sis you show your wisdom by your walk.

You are well past the "basics" and a fruitful tree.


I neex growth in many areas you're thriving.

 

[dcontroversal]

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I really didn't make it up you know... you stated it once before somewhere and I remembered.... so I was stealing your knowledge just like us lowly, that cannot make the grade, fake, callow sinners do!

ahahahaha....after reading his hypercritical blather, his judgemental hypocritical bloviations and Calvin worshipping view, I remember why I put him on ignore.........!!

 

[Rosemaryx]

Sis you show your wisdom by your walk.

You are well past the "basics" and a fruitful tree.


I neex growth in many areas you're thriving.

Thank you for your encouragement Jamie...
...xox...

 

[blue_ladybug]

That blank look says it all I think!!!

 

[Elihoenai]

There really are two groups of people.

Saved and Not Saved

Which group are you in?

You know I told this before, but your preoccupation with the occult and escoterica is affecting your perception of everything.

If you want to simplify to two types of people, it would be the following:

1) The True Worshippers of Elohim/God that are utterly devoted to Elohim's/God's Work and his Kingdom.
2) The True Worshippers of the Satan/Devil that are utterly devoted to Satan's/Devil's Work and his Kingdom.

The Carnal Man understands not the things of the Spirit of God. Do you know the Scripture that speaks thus?

 

[EleventhHour]

do not know what you are talking about.....!!

That is for sure!!!

 

[dcontroversal]

Righteous works do not save us - saved people do righteous works. This is evidence of their salvation. Some people like to say we are fruit inspectors. WE look to see if the tree is producing fruit. Love, Joy, Peace, Patience, Kindness, Goodness, Gentleness, Faithfullness & Self Control. If the branch or tree does not produce fruit then it is cut down and thrown into the fire.

Yeah.....go study more and use context this time....That PARABLE clearly says MEN CUT AND BURN BRANCHES....and...

To the one that WORKS NOT BUT BELIEVES on him that justifies the ungodly, HIS FAITH IS CREDITED to righteousness....

and the Prodigal the saved ones that have works of WOOD, HAY and Stubble.....

Works prove NOTHING before GOD or men and there are MANY BIBLICAL exemptions to your hard fast RELIGIOUS rules...

 

[EleventhHour]

If you want to simplify to two types of people, it would be the following:

1) The True Worshippers of Elohim/God that are utterly devoted to Elohim's/God's Work and his Kingdom.
2) The True Worshippers of the Satan/Devil that are utterly devoted to Satan's/Devil's Work and his Kingdom.

The Carnal Man understands not the things of the Spirit of God. Do you know the Scripture that speaks thus?

Lets go with mine....

Saved
Not saved

 

[Elihoenai]

That is right, no one, but no one, gets in...because people are all those things...it is only because of the righteousness of Christ imputed to the believer that one gains entrance to heaven.

Matthew 5:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Elohim/God wants transformation according to the image of his Sinless and Perfect Son Yeshua/Jesus. You must be Sinless and Perfect!

 

[blue_ladybug]

Matthew 5:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Elohim/God wants transformation according to the image of his Sinless and Perfect Son Yeshua/Jesus. You must be Sinless and Perfect!

Being sinless and perfect is impossible in this life. The ONLY way we could be sinless and perfect, is if we were immortals.. Which we aren't, and that is why Jesus died for our sins on the cross..

 

[Elihoenai]

"14Make every effort to live in peace with everyone and to be holy; without holiness no one will see the Lord." - Hebrews 12:14


I think most Christians instantly think 'self-righteousness' when they hear the word 'works', not knowing that works are the result of grace in a person's life and, therefore, serve as evidence of the presence of that grace in a person. And, ultimately, as the verse above says, if you don't have that evidence you won't see the Lord.

"make every effort to confirm your calling and election. For if you do these things, you will never stumble, 11and you will receive a rich welcome into the eternal kingdom of our Lord and Savior Jesus Christ." - 2 Peter 1:10-11

Seek to confirm the presence of saving grace in your life by putting the word of God to work in your life. If you can't do that you may well not have the grace of God that you think you have. We are to test ourselves so we'll be ready to meet Jesus when He returns. Work is how you know you are saved and ready to meet Him.

Amen!!!

 

[EleventhHour]

Lol, I don’t put any weight in their juvenile responses. They live for this on a forum all day running their mouths, attacking, denying truth. It is ungodly behavior and they live in it.

I will have you know I am only here half the day!!

As well, I guess none of us are saved by your unknowable standard.

I am okay with that, and I am okay with your false accusations against me and others (friends).

They reflect very poorly on the accuser not the accused.

 

[EleventhHour]

Matthew 5:48 King James Version (KJV)

48 Be ye therefore perfect, even as your Father which is in heaven is perfect.


Elohim/God wants transformation according to the image of his Sinless and Perfect Son Yeshua/Jesus. You must be Sinless and Perfect!

While the word is stated as perfect... the concept is actually complete.

We are complete in Christ.

Are you in Christ?

 

[Rosemaryx]

Work is how you know you are saved and ready to meet Him.

But what about those on their deathbeds that God calls before they take their last breath ? , they have no works whatsoever , genuine question to your post...

 

[Elihoenai]

Scripture please: book, chapter, verse.

You must do Works under the law to be Saved!


Galatians 3:10 King James Version (KJV)

10 For as many as are of the works of the law are under the curse: for it is written, Cursed is every one that continueth not in all things which are written in the book of the law to do them.