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And yet, if anyone considers himself religious and yet does not keep a tight reign on his tongue, he deceives himself and his religion is worthless. Religion that God our Father accepts as pure and faultless is this: to look after orphans and widows in their distress and to keep oneself from being polluted by the world. James 1:26,27
If we have faith, we are to be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry (v.19). We are to care for orphans and widows and are to come out of the world and be separate - to touch no unclean thing (neither with our eyes, nor our ears or ultimately with our hearts) and God has promised, then, to receive us as His children and be our Father. Since we have that promise, we are to purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God; see 1 Cor.6:16-7:1. And I encourage you to never view the Scriptures through the lens of doctrine or personal ideas. Humbly listen.
Many here are slaves to sin by the definition of Jesus and the Scriptures and yet claim a place in Heaven as does their father the devil. With unforgiveness in their hearts, the erroniously claim their own forgiveness. They will go on to do their own will today, wheras, if they were a true child of God, they would be led of the Holy Spirit and rest. There is no fear of God before their eyes.
If we have faith, we are to be quick to listen, slow to speak and slow to become angry (v.19). We are to care for orphans and widows and are to come out of the world and be separate - to touch no unclean thing (neither with our eyes, nor our ears or ultimately with our hearts) and God has promised, then, to receive us as His children and be our Father. Since we have that promise, we are to purify ourselves from everything that contaminates body and spirit, perfecting holiness in the fear of God; see 1 Cor.6:16-7:1. And I encourage you to never view the Scriptures through the lens of doctrine or personal ideas. Humbly listen.
Many here are slaves to sin by the definition of Jesus and the Scriptures and yet claim a place in Heaven as does their father the devil. With unforgiveness in their hearts, the erroniously claim their own forgiveness. They will go on to do their own will today, wheras, if they were a true child of God, they would be led of the Holy Spirit and rest. There is no fear of God before their eyes.
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Amen! Conversion in regards to becoming like little children pictures faith as the helpless, trusting, dependence of those who do not rely on their own resources. Little children have no achievements or accomplishments to offer up or commend themselves with. Jesus points to the need of having the same type of trust and reliance that children exhibit. The most trusting people in the world are little children and they have not acquired the obstructions to faith that often come with exposure to false religion and philosophies of men. Jesus calls us to have this same kind of trust and reliance that little children naturally have. We must become as little children in humbly recognizing our helplessness in obtaining the kingdom of God in our own strength and trust in Jesus to supply all of our needs. 
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That salvation is by grace through faith and is not by works is not hard to understand. It's just hard for people to ACCEPT. It's a shame that human pride will not allow such people to believe the Gospel. Their hands are full of their works and they will not let go in order to believe the Gospel by trusting in the death, burial and resurrection of Christ as the ALL-sufficient means of their salvation. (1 Corinthians 15:1-4)
Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
Romans 1:16 - For I am not ashamed of the gospel of Christ, for it is the power of God to salvation for everyone who believes, for the Jew first and also for the Greek.
1 Corinthians 1:21 - For since, in the wisdom of God, the world through wisdom did not know God, it pleased God through the foolishness of the message preached to save those who believe.
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Jesus calls us to have this same kind of trust and reliance that little children naturally have. We must become as little children in humbly recognizing our helplessness in obtaining the kingdom of God in our own strength and trust in Jesus to supply all of our needs.
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The person who is slave to sin is the one who has not yet been obedient to the Gospel of Christ Jesus.
That would be the correct Gospel, where one receives the gift of eternal life, which is once and for always, ...received by grace through faith apart from any and all works.
The worker for salvation claims heaven ...but Jesus states I never knew you.
That would be the correct Gospel, where one receives the gift of eternal life, which is once and for always, ...received by grace through faith apart from any and all works.
The worker for salvation claims heaven ...but Jesus states I never knew you.
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Don't forget. Reformists say these people CAN'T believe and be saved because God purposely did not create them with the intention of them ever being able to understand and accept the gospel.
So these unbelievers trapped in the slavery of their habitually sinful lives can't let go in order to believe the gospel no matter how much anyone shames them and badmouths their dullness and pride.
So I don't think you should be lamenting the dullness and pride of unsaved works salvationists among all the other unsaved people out there in the world who God did not create to ever be saved.
So these unbelievers trapped in the slavery of their habitually sinful lives can't let go in order to believe the gospel no matter how much anyone shames them and badmouths their dullness and pride.
So I don't think you should be lamenting the dullness and pride of unsaved works salvationists among all the other unsaved people out there in the world who God did not create to ever be saved.
Amen! We obey the Gospel by choosing to believe the Gospel. Romans 10:16 - But they have not all obeyed the gospel. For Isaiah says, “Lord, who has believed our report?”
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
Ephesians 1:13 - In Him you also trusted, after you heard the word of truth, the gospel of your salvation; in whom also, having believed, you were sealed with the Holy Spirit of promise, 14 who is the guarantee of our inheritance until the redemption of the purchased possession, to the praise of His glory.
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Amen! Although it is our responsibility to choose to believe and we will be held accountable for unbelief (John 3:18) coming to Christ is not "exclusively" a matter of human decision. Unless the Father draws us (John 6:44) and enables us/it has been granted by the Father (John 6:65) we would NEVER come to Christ all by ourselves. The approach of the soul to Christ is initiated by the Father, but He doesn't force us to come to Christ and we must choose to come to Him once enabled. The impulse to come to Christ comes from the Father.
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