Davids Wilkersons prophecy

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Hi all there :) Wish that you all are fine :D

Just I want to share what i knew... Have you ever heard about David Wilkerson? well, you can chech about he in internet. And he wrote a prophecy about earthquake in Japan. After that, he said that will be earthqueke in America. It will be largest in hole earths history...
Just I want know know your opinion about it... :)

God bless you :)
 
I also predict that there will be an earth quake in California in some point in the future!

Seriously, I would avoid so called prophets who make vague predictions like that.

I personally don't believe there is any need for modern day prophets because the bible is already written and complete-- Jesus already stated that he has told us all things.
 
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"I am not at all convinced that this earthquake will take place in California. In fact, I believe it is going to take place where it is least expected. This terrible earthquake may happen in an area that not known as an earthquake belt. It will be so high on the Richter scale that it will trigger two other major earthquakes." -- Wilkerson
I pulled this quotation off another website (that is to say, I didn't verify the source).
 
I was being sarcastic when I said the earthquake would be in California. The reason I said that is because California commonly has earthquakes, so anyone could make some vague prediction that a earthquake would happen there some point in the future.

I personally don't believe in the existence of modern day prophets. We already know what happened in the beginning. We all know how we should live are lives, and we already know what will happen in the end. There is simply nothing unknown for a prophet to be needed.

lets say this dude is right that there is going to be some huge earthquake, ok? Its going to be in some location in the massive United States, at some random point in the future, so what purpose does it serve to know beforehand? How will this glorify God? How will it save lives? How does knowing this serve spreading the Gospel?

You know, the old prophets had a extremely difficult life because they were prophets! Many times the were almost killed or they were, in fact, killed spreading these messages from God. Furthermore, their prophesies from God always had a specific purpose that was defined by God.

Now, here come along these so called prophets who give out prophesies from there safe comfortable homes and they receive fat donations checks-- living a life nothing like the real prophets. I will stick to the prophets of the bible!
 
well, there is still prophets today, i would like to see a true prophet. They give revelation, and prophecy is one of the gift of the Spirit.......
 
Prophets are still there, and false prophets are also still around. The only thing is that many Christians do not spend lots of time in prayer and reading Gods word and as result can not discern the true from the false.
 
Crazy4GODword said:
well, there is still prophets today, i would like to see a true prophet. They give revelation, and prophecy is one of the gift of the Spirit.......
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Hmm, if they are still around, give me a decent example of someone who is a real prophet that has an actual prophecy that glorifies God instead of themselves. Furthermore, give me an example of prophet who doesn't ask for donations like all the real prophets. Just saying there are real prophets doesn't actually prove anything-- it is far too vague.

My point is that there is absolutely nothing left to for a prophet left to speak. We already know everything we need to know about the last days. We already know how Christians should behave-- Christ set the example for that. Furthermore, there is still prophecy unfulfilled from the old prophets, so why would we need new prophets when there still stuff undone from thousands of years ago.

But hey, believe what you want-- every time I come across someone professing to be a prophet- I get that used car salesman vibe coming from them. I will stick to the tried by fire, long suffering, bible living prophets such as Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, Jeremiah, and ect.
 
Jason83 said:
Hmm, if they are still around, give me a decent example of someone who is a real prophet that has an actual prophecy that glorifies God instead of themselves. Furthermore, give me an example of prophet who doesn't ask for donations like all the real prophets. Just saying there are real prophets doesn't actually prove anything-- it is far too vague.

My point is that there is absolutely nothing left to for a prophet left to speak. We already know everything we need to know about the last days. We already know how Christians should behave-- Christ set the example for that. Furthermore, there is still prophecy unfulfilled from the old prophets, so why would we need new prophets when there still stuff undone from thousands of years ago.

But hey, believe what you want-- every time I come across someone professing to be a prophet- I get that used car salesman vibe coming from them. I will stick to the tried by fire, long suffering, bible living prophets such as Jesus Christ, John the Baptist, Jeremiah, and ect.
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Prophecy is a gift of the spirit to tell the church how it has strayed from the path that God intended them to travel.

It is people who stand up and say. "HEY wait, this is not what God meant for the church to be!"

I could name quite a few but you would not recognize the names because they don't publish books, they don't give speeches to the masses. They work within the church and speak to key people to make a change happen that builds, edifies and shows the GLORY OF GOD.

Prophecy is not about speaking the future as a fixed thing that can not be changed but revealing to people what GOD SEES and Thinks of the World at this present moment and what MIGHT happen if the people do not REPENT and turn back to the teachings of God.

A true Prophet should never speak anything that goes against the Bible when under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

King Saul prophecied when under the Holy Spirit but not all the time.

Jonah prophecied the destruction of Niveneh if they did not repent but it didn't happen because they did repent.

a spirit of prophecy (or demon) possessed a slave girl in Acts and had to be casted out by the Apostles.

Therefore prophets still exist and so do false prophets and deceiving spirits. Use the Bible or the Sword of the Spirit to discern the difference between the two but do NOT believe the lie that there are no modern day prophets.

IF that were true then who would combat the false prophets in the world?

Moses was given powers greater then Egypt's magicians. don't you think God can do the same?

America doesn't need to worry about natural disasters, the man-made disasters should be enough trouble for today.

Worry not for the future for enough is the trouble of today. That's in the Bible.

sorry forgot to answer the original question: the guy is demonically influenced to say vague things to increase his following and to lead God's children astray. We should all pray for his soul that he rebuke that spirit and turn back to God and Biblically based practices.

hey even demons believe in God and can quote the Bible and twist it to their own corrupt purposes.
 
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It is people who stand up and say. "HEY wait, this is not what God meant for the church to be!"


Actually prophecy is about a fixed future-- for example read the book of revelations and any part of the bible that talks about the coming of the anti-Christ. However, the bible does include prophets that did go around preaching repentance to get people back to living a life obeying God, but you don't need some new prophet to come around to tell you that-- just have that church pick up a bible, and everything they need to know how to conduct themselves is there. You could also have an outside pastor come in and point out behaviors in that church that isn't biblical, but all you need is a bible for that.


A prophet speaks a new word from God! So, the prophet would basically need to add to the bible in order for there to be a new word from God; but, of course, the bible is complete, so that isn't possible. Repentance can be preached just like John The Baptist, Jonah, and etc by using the current prophetic words from God not new ones.


I could name quite a few but you would not recognize the names because they don't publish books, they don't give speeches to the masses. They work within the church and speak to key people to make a change happen that builds, edifies and shows the GLORY OF GOD.

Doesn't help me at all.

Prophecy is not about speaking the future as a fixed thing that can not be changed but revealing to people what GOD SEES and Thinks of the World at this present moment and what MIGHT happen if the people do not REPENT and turn back to the teachings of God.

Already answered that.

A true Prophet should never speak anything that goes against the Bible when under the influence of the Holy Spirit.

Obviously...but the bible is complete there is nothing left unsaid by God in my opinion.

King Saul prophecied when under the Holy Spirit but not all the time.

I said there aren't any modern day prophets.

Jonah prophecied the destruction of Niveneh if they did not repent but it didn't happen because they did repent.

You can accomplish that same task by preaching the current word of God-- no need for a new word from God.

a spirit of prophecy (or demon) possessed a slave girl in Acts and had to be casted out by the Apostles.

I said there aren't any modern day prophets.....as in today--this happened in the first century.......

Therefore prophets still exist and so do false prophets and deceiving spirits. Use the Bible or the Sword of the Spirit to discern the difference between the two but do NOT believe the lie that there are no modern day prophets.

Irrelevant and doesn't disprove anything I said.

 IF that were true then who would combat the false prophets in the world?

The bible is sufficient for that.

Moses was given powers greater then Egypt's magicians. don't you think God can do the same?

Having a hard time figuring out your point here. I am not questioning God-- I am questioning the need for modern day prophets. Those are powers of God such as turning the staff turned into a snake-- that has absolutely nothing to do with prophecy.

America doesn't need to worry about natural disasters, the man-made disasters should be enough trouble for today.

Every Country has to worry about natural disasters--just ask the people of New Orleans about that.
 
Can't edit anymore..but would like to add something to your point here because I read it wrong.


a spirit of prophecy (or demon) possessed a slave girl in Acts and had to be casted out by the Apostles.

Spirit of prophecy is actually a bad translation here. Prophecy can only come from God-- demon possessed people don't get words from God! She had some evil spirit that helped her see the future, and these futures probably came from Satan not, God!
 
I just wanted to knwo what do you think about it. To thrust in it or not...
 
I think it is best for you to search your own feeling about whether prophetic statements like these are real or not-- good practice to identity false prophets. You never shared what you think about it. So, do you feel like it is from God?

Seems to me he is just trying to sell books. Here is a article about how he makes numerous prophecies some of which have already proven to be false.A funny one is where he prophecies "The End of Gospel Television by 1999", you can read the actual prophecy in this article.

David Wilkerson Prophecy of "Calamity": Why False

Finally, as for my opinion, it is completely bogus. Usually when God gave prophecy warnings like this-- he would also include a way to avoid it because that is just how God is-- he always allows people to repent in order to avoid the impending disaster.
 
Havent read any of the posts.

But basically I will not trust modern day prophets or modern day people who claim to be jesus period.

Because the one that everyone starts beleiving in is gonna be the antichrist so...

To be safe

Dont trust the modern day people

Only trust the one you pray to
 
TheJesusFreak said:
Havent read any of the posts.

But basically I will not trust modern day prophets or modern day people who claim to be jesus period.

Because the one that everyone starts beleiving in is gonna be the antichrist so...

To be safe

Dont trust the modern day people

Only trust the one you pray to
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Finally, someone who agrees with me about modern days prophets, and to be so young-- TheJesusFreak you have a bright future ahead of you.
 
Jason83 said:
I also predict that there will be an earth quake in California in some point in the future!

Seriously, I would avoid so called prophets who make vague predictions like that.

I personally don't believe there is any need for modern day prophets because the bible is already written and complete-- Jesus already stated that he has told us all things.
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Jason,

If you can get a copy of 'The Vision' by David Wilkerson, take the time and read it. You can probably track one down trough your local public library. When you get it make sure to note when it was written and the conditions that existed at the time right here in the US. Then just think about it and ponder what you read.
 
im pretty sure prophecy is no longer available to us. it was used to establish the church in the new testament....If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.
 
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im pretty sure prophecy is no longer available to us. it was used to establish the church in the new testament....If the purpose of a prophet was to reveal truth from God, why would we need prophets if we have the completed revelation from God in the Bible? If prophets were the “foundation” of the early church, are we still building the “foundation” today? Can God give someone a message to deliver to someone else? Absolutely! Does God reveal truth to someone in a supernatural way and enable that person to deliver that message to others? Absolutely! But is this the biblical gift of prophecy? No.
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I'm not backing up this whole David Wilkerson prophecy, honestly I have no idea if he's telling the truth or not. I suppose time will tell if there is any truth in his words.


However, in response to what you said I think you've got it slightly wrong. Prophecy is very much available to us today as it was back then. Certainly not of the same caliber of biblical prophecy (inspiration from the holy spirit to write the word of God) cause like you said we have the completed revelation from God in the bible. With that in mind that the word of God is in fact that let's take a look at what Paul says in 1Corinthians -

14v1 "Follow the way of love and eagerly desire spiritual gifts, especially the gift of prophecy."

Okay, so how do we know he is not implying the same certainty of prophecy which is inspired by the holy spirit to write the word of God? Well he goes on to say this..

14v3 "But everyone who prophesies speaks to men for their strengthening, encouragement and comfort.4 He who speaks in a tongue edifies himself, but he who prophesies edifies the church.

He tells us here that this type of prophecy is needed to "edify" (Instruct or improve [someone] morally or intellectually) the church, to get a fresh revelation from God. For The Lord to be consistently comforting and guiding his church through such people with this new testament gifting. See if this was simply telling the church of Corinth back then to seek the gift of prophecy to bring completion of the bible, he would not say seek it cause it "edifies" the church. Cause we know the word of God does not simply "edify" the church. It shapes the church completely, the bible is the infallable word of God inspired through men by the Holy Spirit.

Paul himself says this 14v19 "But in the church I would rather speak five intelligent words to instruct others than ten thousand words in a tongue."

And just to confirm it all that this was not the caliber of prophecy inspired to write the word of God but just for God to communicate to his church throughout the centuries, but still a form of prophecy none the less Paul says this.

14v29 "Two or three prophets should speak, and the others should weigh carefully what is said. 30 And if a revelation comes to someone who is sitting down, the first speaker should stop. 31 For you can all Prophesy in turn so that everyone may be instructed and encouraged.
 
thanks for that. i appreciate the reference. i will look into that. i was addressing prophecy in a sense of telling the future like some claim. i do see that prophecy is also defined as saying something we have already been taught to encourage others like paul said. thanks again friend
 
Your more than welcome :). I'm just glad you didn't take it the wrong way and think I was just getting all self-righteous on you.
 
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