The Times of the Gentiles

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Whispered said:
Hi Garee thanks for your reply. Per your remarks pasted here: "...Jesus saying his corrupted flesh he inherited from his mother profits for nothing." Where did Jesus state this. Not the Epistles of Saul, Jesus in His ministry on earth. Where did He say that of Himself? Thank you.
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He did not say the promised demonstration was useless .He said his flesh as to what the eyes did not profit being corrupted .What did profits was the unseen work spiritual work of Him and the Father working together.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.John 6 :63

When we think of our invisible God there shall be no form, no beauty that we should desire him. God is not a man as us
 
garee said:
He did not say the promised demonstration was useless .He said his flesh as to what the eyes did not profit being corrupted .What did profits was the unseen work spiritual work of Him and the Father working together.

It is the spirit that quickeneth; the flesh profiteth nothing: the words that I speak unto you, they are spirit, and they are life.John 6 :63

When we think of our invisible God there shall be no form, no beauty that we should desire him. God is not a man as us
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OK.
Thanks.
 
garee said:
Romans 8:2-4 King James Version (KJV) For the law of the Spirit of life in Christ Jesus (the anointing Holy Spirit of God)
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Christ Jesus is not the anointing Holy Spirit of God. Perhaps you need to study this issue more closely.

garee said:
hath made me free from the law of
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garee said:
sin and death. For what the law could not do, in that it was weak through the flesh, God sending his own Son in the likeness (not of sinful but a symbol as likeness)
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Likeness, as in appearance, not as a symbol. He looked like a normal man in every respect, but was not sinful.
 
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garee said:
He did not say the promised demonstration was useless .He said his flesh as to what the eyes did not profit being corrupted .
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No, He did not say that. You're adding to Scripture again.

garee said:
When we think of our invisible God there shall be no form, no beauty that we should desire him.
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Isaiah 53 describes Jesus the man; He was not an outstanding human specimen with great looks and bulky muscles, and at the time of His crucifixion, He was so badly beaten that He was barely recognizable.

We should not think of God the Father as a human being; because He isn't. However, He has revealed Himself in the man Jesus Christ.

garee said:
God is not a man as us
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Everyone here knows that God is not human; that is not at issue, so you can stop harping on it. However, Jesus is both human and God.
 
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Elihoenai said:
What is the "Mark of the Beast"? And can you show from Scripture that the "Mark of the Beast" is not present at the time John is speaking? Does Rome have Dominion over the World today?
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lol, just look at who the Scriptures say is giving the kingdoms their power and rule and keep count of the ones that God gave their dominions and the ones the Bible says are given dominion by some other,other than God will stand out if not I could say Andros all the day and it would make no sense.
 
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In Daniel, https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Daniel+4&version=KJV , the Most High is the one who set the dominion,kingdom of who is over who https://biblehub.com/interlinear/daniel/4.htm . Some of the beast are given their authority by the devil(dragon) https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+13&version=KJV ...

So are they the same or does the Dragon,two horned beast ect. give authority to kingdoms without the most High's authority and so in Revelation it is pointing it out to us because he understands that it would be easy to confuse the beast/kingdoms he gave dominion to with the one/ones that the dragon gives authority?

Count the number of the beast because it is said "all these I will give ..." https://biblehub.com/matthew/4-9.htm and so there are kingdoms God gave dominion and kingdoms that the Devil gives authority so it is important to know when the kingdoms God gave authority to began and end or else it may be easily confused with the beast given authority by the dragon.

If not it would seem as if the four beast of Daniel and the beast of Revelation are the same when it usually states who is giving which it's authority(God or the dragon). So there is no woman riding the beast in Daniel but there is in Revelation and some of the beast are given authority by God and others by the dragon and so some you should honor as masters over you and others you should not.
 
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iamsoandso said:
lol, just look at who the Scriptures say is giving the kingdoms their power and rule and keep count of the ones that God gave their dominions and the ones the Bible says are given dominion by some other,other than God will stand out if not I could say Andros all the day and it would make no sense.
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This is not a laughing matter. This is a very serious subject with Salvation of Souls at stake. Astute readers are fully aware that there are many different interpretations concerning the "Mark of the Beast".

@iamsoandso, Are you a Tuvalu Roman Catholic or a member of the Congregational Christian Church of Tuvalu?


Number of the beast

Mark of the beast

"...The Classical Greek word charagma (χάραγμα), translated as mark (of the beast) in Revelation 13:16 can also mean any mark engraved, imprinted, or branded; stamped money, document, or coin...."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Number_of_the_Beast#Mark_of_the_beast
 
Dave-L said:
God. He appoints all that ever was, is, or will be.
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Sure. But we cannot ignore what the text actually states, which says it involves "the dragon gave him... his seat [throne] and great authority"... meaning, in this instance, "the dragon" (i.e. Satan) is also involved, which would differ from, say, the appointment of the mayor of Sheboygan. ;)
 
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TheDivineWatermark said:
Sure. But we cannot ignore what the text actually states, which says it involves "the dragon gave him his seat and authority"... meaning, in this instance, "the dragon" (i.e. Satan) is also involved, which would differ from, say, the appointment of the mayor of Sheboygan. ;)
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Satan works to fulfill God's eternal plan.
 
Dave-L said:
When do the times of the Gentiles end?
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When the Church age ends. There are many names for the time we live in right now. The time of the Gentiles, the Church Age, Holy Spirit desperation and so on. We are very close to the end of this age now. I would say another 10 years or so. WE are at the time of the Final Harvest. This will be the greatest anointing the Church has ever received. People in the past and people in the future are eager to look at the time we live in right now. This is a very exciting time for the church. Some people say a billion young people will come to Christ in the next 10 years.
 
Dave-L said:
Satan works to fulfill God's eternal plan.
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Just the opposite. Satan works against God, against His creation and against His plans. You can not blame God for the mess that man and Satan has made out of His Creation.
 
JohnR7 said:
Just the opposite. Satan works against God, against His creation and against His plans. You can not blame God for the mess that man and Satan has made out of His Creation.
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God created Satan and keeps him alive to fulfill his eternal plan. Look at Job how God used Satan to refine him.
 
JohnR7 said:
When the Church age ends. There are many names for the time we live in right now. The time of the Gentiles, the Church Age, Holy Spirit desperation and so on. We are very close to the end of this age now. I would say another 10 years or so. WE are at the time of the Final Harvest. This will be the greatest anointing the Church has ever received. People in the past and people in the future are eager to look at the time we live in right now. This is a very exciting time for the church. Some people say a billion young people will come to Christ in the next 10 years.
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The believing Jews are grafted into the Church/Israel. So considering this, there is no national restoration of the Jews.
 
Dino246 said:
I shake my head. Dude, you really need to add more explanation to your posts. Posting gems like this will get you rolled out of here on the Ban Wagon... and rightly so.
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lol. Glad I Am not the only one who sees this
 
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Dave-L said:
The believing Jews are grafted into the Church/Israel. So considering this, there is no national restoration of the Jews.
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Wow where did you get this?

all People are grafted into christ. Jews being natural branches and gentiles being unnatural Branches
 
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