Are you completely Born again????
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In regards to the word "water" in John 3:5, there are those who would argue that the natural sense of the passage parallels "water" with being born out of a mother’s womb (verse 4) and with "flesh" (verse 6). Simply stated in that case, Jesus told Nicodemus that in order to see the kingdom of God two births are necessary. The first is a physical, "flesh" birth (which is accompanied by amniotic "water") and the second is Spirit.
There are also those who would argue that Jesus mentions "living water" in John 4:10, 14; 7:37-39 and in John 7:38-39, we read - "He who believes in Me, as the Scripture has said, out of his heart will flow rivers of living water. But this He spoke concerning the Spirit. The Holy Spirit is the source of living water and spiritual cleansing. If "water" is arbitrarily defined as baptism, then we could just as justifiably say, "Out of his heart will flow rivers of living baptism" in John 7:38. If this sounds ridiculous, it is no more so than the idea that water baptism is the source or the means of becoming born again.
Yet there are still others who would argue that "water" is used in the Bible as an emblem of the Word of God, and in such uses it is associated with cleansing or washing. (John 15:3; Ephesians 5:26) When we are born again, the Holy Spirit begets new life, Divine life, so that we are said to become "partakers of the divine nature" (2 Peter 1:4). The new birth is brought to pass through "incorruptible seed, by the Word of God, which lives and abides forever" (I Peter 1:23), but the Holy Spirit is the Agent who accomplishes the miracle of regeneration. So to automatically read "baptism" into John 3:5 simply because it mentions "water" is unwarranted.
Act 22:16 And now why tarriest thou? arise, and be baptized, and wash away thy sins, calling on the name of the Lord.
is this what he meant also?
Excellent article on Acts 22:16 - https://kentbrandenburg.blogspot.com/2015/03/acts-2216-baptism-essential-for.html
can you just baptise anyone????
or do the apostles need to meet certain criteria to baptise someone?
In 1 Peter 3:21, Peter tells us that baptism now saves you, yet when Peter uses this phrase he continues in the same sentence to explain exactly what he means by it. He said that baptism now saves you-not the removal of dirt from the flesh (that is, not as an outward, physical act which washes dirt from the body--that is not what saves you), "but an appeal to God for a good conscience, through the resurrection of Jesus Christ" (that is, as an inward, spiritual transaction between God and the individual, a transaction that is symbolized by the outward ceremony of water baptism).
*Just as the eight people in the ark were "saved THROUGH water" as they were IN THE ARK. They were not literally saved "by" the water. Hebrews 11:7 is clear on this point (..built an ARK for the SAVING of his household). *NOTE: The context reveals that ONLY the righteous (Noah and his family) were DRY and therefore SAFE. In contrast, ONLY the wicked in Noah's day came in contact with the water and they all perished.
12 But when they believed Philip preaching the things concerning the kingdom of God, and the name of Jesus Christ, they were baptized, both men and women.
13 Then Simon himself believed also: and when he was baptized, he continued with Philip, and wondered, beholding the miracles and signs which were done.
It say he believe and baptized, it doesn't say water baptism save simon
Only believers are to be water baptized and water baptize others.
It's not water baptism as I already explained in post #82.
Most argument here separate believes from baptism... its like separating repentance to believe and believing to the Holy Spirit
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Romans 6. You where bapticed into Christ and his death, that just as he was risen, we too will be
its called spiritual baptism, God literally baptizes you into Christ and his death where your sins are washed away (see titus 3: 5 or the washing of regeneration of the Holy Spirit. It is the Hs who does the work, not your pastor.
a lot of people think Rom 6 is water baptism, it’s not, no water is mentioned, it says we were literally baptized (a Greek verb which means to immerse, place into or plunge) Christ’s death and burial
sadly the writers had translated the verb instead of transliteration it, we would not be having this discussion,
The point there...
Many believers are like simon...they continued to attend...but What did peter said to Simon???
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eternally-gratefull
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Take it in context
it does not say this everyplace.
does water baptism Trump spirit baptism? Which is more powerful and has the means to truly wash your sins away?
you just need to read through the story..
Rom 6:3 Know ye not, that so many of us as were baptized into Jesus Christ were baptized into his death?
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Yep
god did that
man has no power to do this
i was baptized INTO Christ, not water,
it’s a mistake to assume baptism always means water.