I think a lot of it has to do when you hear the older people and how they attack other denominations and how they are of satan and all. You trust these people because they are your elders and leaders. And thus you assume they must be right,Yes, I know this is common. When I became a christian i went to an mennonite church. And learned their teachings. But my focus never was that they are right in all teachings. But I met a lot of which did it. Later i was in a church which was led from an calvinistic and an mennonite brother. It ends that the calvinistic brother was accused false teaching and was kicked out. He still is my friend, even he is calvinist.
So, how then in revealition can be mention the 12 tribes by name, (chapter 7) if according your view the church is Israel? This is not fitting.
In the NT Jesus is Israel. He was from Judah. This means he is Israel unified with Judah.So, how then in revealition can be mention the 12 tribes by name, (chapter 7) if according your view the church is Israel? This is not fitting.
No man. In rev. 7 people from every of the 12In the NT Jesus is Israel. He was from Judah. This means he is Israel unified with Judah.
Keep it up Bro, maybe he will hear someone, and see why what he says makes no senseNo man. In rev. 7 people from every of the 12
tribes are mentioned.
= the ChurchNo man. In rev. 7 people from every of the 12
tribes are mentioned.
Show us the distinction, how Do we know which of the 12 churches we belong to?= the Church
Nope the 12 tribes are Israel not church.= the Church
The Congregation of the Lord in the OT is the Church. The terms are interchangeable.Nope the 12 tribes are Israel not church.
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Roger
Only in the theology of the unlearned.The Congregation of the Lord in the OT is the Church. The terms are interchangeable.
Check it out. The terms mean the same.Only in the theology of the unlearned.
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Roger
Good old KJV translational English poor choice. The congregation would have been a better choice.Check it out. The terms mean the same.
“This is he, that was in the church in the wilderness with the angel which spake to him in the mount Sina, and with our fathers: who received the lively oracles to give unto us:” Acts 7:38 (KJV 1900)
So the church are only 144000 people? And who then is mention in rev. 7, 9 ff.= the Church
Consider the Greek.Good old KJV translational English poor choice. The congregation would have been a better choice.
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Roger
numbers in Revelation are symbols.So the church are only 144000 people? And who then is mention in rev. 7, 9 ff.
They arent the same as in rev. 7,4-8.
Greec is writing the same. Again no answer of the question.numbers in Revelation are symbols.
It will lead to an argument if I answer, based on your eschatology. I'm just saying numbers in Revelation are symbols not to be taken literally.Greec is writing the same. Again no answer of the question.
Where the bible says, that numbers in Revealation are symbols?numbers in Revelation are symbols.
Did God reveal to you, that numbers are symbols in revealation? Ore is it man wisedom?It will lead to an argument if I answer, based on your eschatology. I'm just saying numbers in Revelation are symbols not to be taken literally.