The Times of the Gentiles

[eternally-gratefull]

I gave the wrong link in this post it should be Revelation 17 https://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+17&version=KJV

the beast according to rev 17
Ch 17:
1. Was (had power) is not (lost power) will ascend out of the abyss (powered by Satan himself) will be destroyed (perdition)
2. 7 kings, 5 have fallen (Egypt, Assyria, Babylon, media-persia, Greece. One is (rome) and one is yet to come (Rome 2 or iron and clay)
3. He will continue a short time
4. 10 kingdom nation (splintered, they will give power to the beast, but will not be unified.
5. Will make war with God himself (the saints) but will be destroyed by the lamb

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

You are prophesying the future from it when it has already been fulfilled.

When did they ever bury people for "seven months" [length of time]?

11 And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12 And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13 Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. 14 And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. 15 And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog. 16 And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.


[may the reader take note of 39:7a]

 

[Dave-L]

When did they ever bury people for "seven months" [length of time]?

11And it shall come to pass in that day, that I will give unto Gog a place there of graves in Israel, the valley of the passengers on the east of the sea: and it shall stop the noses of the passengers: and there shall they bury Gog and all his multitude: and they shall call it The valley of Hamongog. 12And seven months shall the house of Israel be burying of them, that they may cleanse the land. 13Yea, all the people of the land shall bury them; and it shall be to them a renown the day that I shall be glorified, saith the Lord GOD. 14And they shall sever out men of continual employment, passing through the land to bury with the passengers those that remain upon the face of the earth, to cleanse it: after the end of seven months shall they search. 15And the passengers that pass through the land, when any seeth a man's bone, then shall he set up a sign by it, till the buriers have buried it in the valley of Hamongog. 16And also the name of the city shall be Hamonah. Thus shall they cleanse the land.

Can you prove they did not?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

It already happened. Just like the 70 weeks already happened.

Prove it, with specific events that show exactly what happened as foretold

when was the world ever punished for not going to jerusalem and worshiping the king

there is a start

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Have you considered this already happened?

Yeah

looked it up, studied it. compared the events. Could not find it

have you ever considered it has not happened yet?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

But it already happened.

No it has not

 

[Dave-L]

Prove it, with specific events that show exactly what happened as foretold

when was the world ever punished for not going to jerusalem and worshiping the king

there is a start

The whole world was punished for not worshipping Christ. Nothing prevented them from converting to judaism and being circumcised.

 

[Dave-L]

No it has not

Prove it.

 

[Dave-L]

Yeah

looked it up, studied it. compared the events. Could not find it

have you ever considered it has not happened yet?

What if you aren't competent in these types of studies?

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

Can you prove they did not?

I added a brief blurb to the bottom of my post, after you'd grabbed it (apparently), which you may not have seen.


[btw, I've made posts before about the connections (elsewhere) to 39:7a]

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

What if you aren't competent in these types of studies?

Just a guess (I don't mean to speak for him), but perhaps e-g means he has [already] "studied the works those who ARE competent in these types of studies" Most of us have to rely on those who HAVE this kind of expertise, since we ourselves haven't actually "been there" or "done that"

 

[Dave-L]

Just a guess (I don't mean to speak for him), but perhaps e-g means "studied the works those who ARE competent in these types of studies" Most of us have to rely on those who HAVE this kind of expertise, since we ourselves haven't actually "been there" or "done that"

You can't prove a negative. It's a dead end.

 

[Kolistus]

Where's the second coming in Ezekiel 38-39?

I said Revelation 19. I believe the Gog and Magog is fulfilled at the end of the millenium.

Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea

 

[Dave-L]

I said Revelation 19. I believe the Gog and Magog is fulfilled at the end of the millenium.

Revelation 20:8 And shall go out to deceive the nations which are in the four quarters of the earth, Gog, and Magog, to gather them together to battle: the number of whom is as the sand of the sea

But the battle is spiritual. And happening now. And John uses Ezekiel, already fulfilled as a symbol for the end.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

The whole world was punished for not worshipping Christ. Nothing prevented them from converting to judaism and being circumcised.

That’s not what the passage said

Zechariah 14:17
And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain.

-Dave-L

The whole world was punished for not worshipping Christ.

i do not think it takes much for anyone to look at these two statements, one from God, the other from Dave-L to know they do not match and are not the same

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Prove it.

Prove it has

i can not find where it happened, hence it could not have happened

you said it did, prove it

 

[Dave-L]

That’s not what the passage said

Zechariah 14:17
And it shall be that whichever of the families of the earth do not come up to Jerusalem to worship the King, the Lord of hosts, on them there will be no rain.

-Dave-L

The whole world was punished for not worshipping Christ.

i do not think it takes much for anyone to look at these two statements, one from God, the other from Dave-L to know they do not match and are not the same

How about China today?

 

[Dave-L]

Prove it has

i can not find where it happened, hence it could not have happened

you said it did, prove it

You cannot prove it didn't happen. I don't need to prove it.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

What if you aren't competent in these types of studies?

this really supports your case,, maybe I am not competent,

What if your not?

is that all you know how to do is belittle people and cut them down?

 

[TheDivineWatermark]

You can't prove a negative. It's a dead end.

I'm not sure we're talking about the same things.

I asked when did they ever bury people for "seven months" ... and along with that [event], burn the weapons for "seven years" (in the past, as you are suggesting).


By the way, in "modern times," there is such a thing as weaponry made out of "lignostone" [sp?]: super-compressed wood that is supposedly stronger than ____ [<---lacking the word I'm searching for, here ], and obviously this "wood" would be "burnable" (perhaps for use as a kind of "fuel" [i.e. burning])