Wasting time...election has nothing to do with salvation. Romans 9 is God’s election of a nation, not the Church.
Removal Theology not Replacement Theology
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Wasting time...election has nothing to do with salvation. Romans 9 is God’s election of a nation, not the Church.
Jesus and the Church are biblical Israel. Secular Israel is not biblical Israel.
Whatever culty thing you belong to, you are wilfully ignoring heaps of prophecy. Your application to condemn the Jews has therefore been rejected.
Canaan was a symbol of heaven to Abraham. It remains a symbol to all believers once they grasp it.
Are you a Dispensationalist?Whatever culty thing you belong to, you are wilfully ignoring heaps of prophecy. Your application to condemn the Jews has therefore been rejected.
I believe the word is true. But I don't understand the friction unless you are a Dispensationalist.
Have you built an ark? Make animal sacrifices? Been to Nineveh to preach against them? Then you too believe in dispensations, God dispensing His truth to man throughout the course of human history.
So you are a Dispensationalist.... This helps explain your concern about my stance.
I would offer.
The law of signs. Circumcision is a sign to the rebels that refuse to believe prophecy . Prophecy God's word for those who do have faith
And it shall come to pass, if they will not believe thee, neither hearken to the voice of the first sign, that they will believe the voice of the latter sign. Exodus 4:8
A sign is used to represent Christ, our blood husband as to the suffering beforehand .(The sign of circumcision the first born of God).
The sign to represent unbelief in mankind. They did believe the voice of the later sign and all of the un believers first born died. And yet they still refused to believe prophecy as a sign against them.
The parable below (Exodus 4) sets the foundation of circumcision. Our bloody husband Christ is cut off from the land of the living as he drank the cup of wrath, working with the Father not seen in order to finish the work of establishing the government of God. Loving authority plus wiling submissiveness .Strengthened three times to say the words of his father .It is finished. The words the unseen father said to the submissive Son Jesus.
.Below he refers to His Son calling the Son of God the first born. . . Israel. Meaning he who wrestles with flesh and blood and because they have the power of God in them they overcome. As did Jesus our bloody husband as savior. The first born of God
And Moses went and returned to Jethro his father in law, and said unto him, Let me go, I pray thee, and return unto my brethren which are in Egypt, and see whether they be yet alive. And Jethro said to Moses, Go in peace. And the Lord said unto Moses in Midian, Go, return into Egypt: for all the men are dead which sought thy life And Moses took his wife and his sons, and set them upon an ass, and he returned to the land of Egypt: and Moses took the rod of God in his hand. And the Lord said unto Moses, When thou goest to return into Egypt, see that thou do all those wonders before Pharaoh, which I have put in thine hand: but I will harden his heart, that he shall not let the people go. And thou shalt say unto Pharaoh, Thus saith the Lord, Israel is my son, even my firstborn: And I say unto thee, Let my son go, that he may serve me: and if thou refuse to let him go, behold, I will slay thy son, even thy firstborn. And it came to pass by the way in the inn, that the Lord met him, and sought to kill him. Then Zipporah took a sharp stone, and cut off the foreskin of her son, and cast it at his feet, and said, Surely a bloody husband art thou to me. So he let him go: then she said, A bloody husband thou art, because of the circumcision. Exodus 4:18-26
It would seem the Lord met and sought to kill Moses . His feet in that parable to represent Christ. Zipporah the lamb.
Similar to the Abraham and Isaac parable or also called "a figure". . . which is a unseen understanding working help understand like in the verse below. That "thy seed" is Christ. . the spiritual unseen seed , and not seeds many to represent the things of men seen the temporal flesh .
Hebrews 11:18-20 King James Version (KJV) Of whom it was said, That in Isaac shall thy seed be called: Accounting that God "was able" to raise him up, even from the dead; from whence also he received him in a figure. By faith Isaac blessed Jacob and Esau concerning things to come.
I think Zipporah in that way like the prophetess Deborah were used mightily to show the suffering of our bloody husband before hand and the glory that followed . They received the end of their new born again faith from the beginning also. We look back to that time or reformation. They looked ahead . Their graves were opened the ground shook.
1 Peter1:9-11 Receiving the end of your faith, even the salvation of your souls. Of which salvation the prophets have enquired and searched diligently, who prophesied of the grace that should come unto you: Searching what, or what manner of time the Spirit of Christ which was in them did signify, when it testified beforehand the sufferings of Christ, and the glory that should follow.
Yes, God dispensing His truth to man throughout the course of human history. But he dispenses His labor of love or called work of faith without time periods .You could say under the Sun .
He is first show dispensing purifying the heart, walking by faith with Abel in whom he had favor with . Abel the first apostle sent by God, first martyr listed also.
Acts 15:8-10 King James Version (KJV) And God, which knoweth the hearts, bare them witness, giving them the Holy Ghost, even as he did unto us; And put no difference between us and them, purifying their hearts by faith. Now therefore why tempt ye God, to put a yoke upon the neck of the disciples, which neither our fathers nor we were able to bear?
In that way there is one dispensation. The dispensation of God working to purify the hearts of men.
2 Peter 3:8 But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day is with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
You are not able to give an answer. An other question before was: to which tribe of Israel you belong?
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He already proved his true idiology
1. he used the term “evil sinners” showing why people like him are called antisemetic
2. he showed he knows nothing of our view. Because he thinks we believe sinful Isreal will be restored completely, which is false
3. He also showed the true meaning of replacement theology as I showed earlier
what we have is a person who has bought into what he has trained to believe and is blinded by it unable to see or argue anything else. Which causes him to come across as arrogant, proud and stiff the way he talks to people and completely ignores anything they say, but instead just attacks them
Do you think the Pharisees were not evil? John the baptist called them snakes. John the Apostle says they have the spirit of Antichrist because they deny Christ came in the flesh. I say the same about JWs and other heritcal cults. Nothing antisemitic about that. Jesus whom I worship was a Jew.