Removal Theology not Replacement Theology

[Dave-L]

This is yoru problem, You ar so focused on proving yourself right, you can not hear a word people say

I admitted this earth will pass away, I admitted at that time Canaan will no longer exist as it has since the flood.

yet you come at me trying to prov somethign I already admitted to. And IGNORED what I said about the land which is currently here

I take it you re calvinist?

Are you a Calvinist?

 

[Dave-L]

You’re op is about repayment theology

That mean the discussion concerns what replacement theology means.

so yes. It is the topic of discussion.

It's my post. WHy would I take it off topic?

 

[Dave-L]

or you could actually start to answer questions and open a dialogue wth people who are attempting to discuss the word with you.

why woul you want to run from conversation?

I love discussing end times and prophecy . And discussing it with others shows me where I may be wrng( I would be a fool if I think I got it all figured out) and then talk to others who just empower my belief, because they, well lets face it, Do what you do.

Are you a Dispensationalist?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus said ; “The land shall not be sold for ever: for the land is mine; for ye are strangers and sojourners with me.” (Leviticus 25:23)

Lev 25:
23 ‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me. 24 And in all the land of your possession you shall grant redemption of the land.

25 ‘If one of your brethren becomes poor, and has sold some of his possession, and if his redeeming relative comes to redeem it, then he may redeem what his brother sold. 26 Or if the man has no one to redeem it, but he himself becomes able to redeem it, 27 then let him count the years since its sale, and restore the remainder to the man to whom he sold it, that he may return to his possession. 28 But if he is not able to have it restored to himself, then what was sold shall remain in the hand of him who bought it until the Year of Jubilee; and in the Jubilee it shall be released, and he shall return to his possession.

My God. This is talking about personal property. Did you think I was not going to look this up?


did God lie?

can you for once answer that question?

Did God lie to abraham Issac and Jacob, since he confirmed this covenant with all three of them.

 

[ForestGreenCook]

Did I?
Has God cast away his people? God forbid....
Rom 11:26 KJV And so all Israel shall be saved: as it is written, There shall come out of Sion the Deliverer, and shall turn away ungodliness from Jacob:
And so ALL ISRAEL...

Jacob's name was changed, by God, to be called Israel, Gen 33:28. All Israel is not of Israel, Rom 9:6. All of the nation of Israel will not be delivered eternally, only all of Jacob/Israel will be saved (delivered eternally).

 

[eternally-gratefull]

answer the question

Did God lie to abraham Isaac and Jacob?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

that has no bearing on what we are discussing, we are discussing the word. Not a doctrine

did God lie to abraham Isaac and Jacob?

 

[Dave-L]

Lev 25:
23 ‘The land shall not be sold permanently, for the land is Mine; for you are strangers and sojourners with Me. 24 And in all the land of your possession you shall grant redemption of the land.

25 ‘If one of your brethren becomes poor, and has sold some of his possession, and if his redeeming relative comes to redeem it, then he may redeem what his brother sold. 26 Or if the man has no one to redeem it, but he himself becomes able to redeem it, 27 then let him count the years since its sale, and restore the remainder to the man to whom he sold it, that he may return to his possession. 28 But if he is not able to have it restored to himself, then what was sold shall remain in the hand of him who bought it until the Year of Jubilee; and in the Jubilee it shall be released, and he shall return to his possession.

My God. This is talking about personal property. Did you think I was not going to look this up?


did God lie?

can you for once answer that question?

Did God lie to abraham Issac and Jacob, since he confirmed this covenant with all three of them.

Jesus owns the land. Not those who hate him and exist today solely for that reason. The real Jews accepted him.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Are you a Calvinist?

are you?

 

[Dave-L]

answer the question

Did God lie to abraham Isaac and Jacob?

Not at all. But Paul says Jesus is the Seed. Not the wicked unbelievers.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Romans 11 is about Jesus fulfilling the promise to Abraham. Note:

“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)

Of course they are in Him. The King of Israel is one of his titles.
What land, what nation did God promise to restore to us as Christians? We can't have something restored to us that was never ours to begin with.

There are specific promises about the land of Israel which God has placed his very reputation on. It's so important to him, he expressly states several times that he will prove to the world he is God buy fulfilling the promises he made regarding THE LAND. These are latter day prophecies that are just as valid as any New Testament promise of God.
Will you read these verses if I tell you were they are or if I post them?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus owns the land. Not those who hate him and exist today solely for that reason. The real Jews accepted him.

Yep jesus owns it

and as owner says he gave it to a group of people forever.

Now either God keep his promises or god lied.

which is it?

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Not at all. But Paul says Jesus is the Seed. Not the wicked unbelievers.

There were believers of abrahams offspring which god did not give it to

God did not tell the three sons he gave it only to believers, your adding to the word

you keep digging a whole

did God lie to those people?

 

[Dave-L]

Yep jesus owns it

and as owner says he gave it to a group of people forever.

Now either God keep his promises or god lied.

which is it?

Then Paul says it belongs to him and not the wicked who hate him.

 

[Lucy-Pevensie]

Not at all. But Paul says Jesus is the Seed. Not the wicked unbelievers.

STILL can't be bothered to read Romans 11 to the end eh?

Despite the fact that I spoon-fed it to you.

 

[Dave-L]

are you?

I am indeed a Calvinist. If you are not, we are wasting our time.

 

[Dave-L]

STILL can't be bothered to read Romans 11 to the end eh?

Despite the fact that I spoon-fed it to you.

You tried to spoon feed your interpretation.

 

[Dave-L]

There were believers of abrahams offspring which god did not give it to

God did not tell the three sons he gave it only to believers, your adding to the word

you keep digging a whole

did God lie to those people?

Jesus IS Abraham's Seed. Not the wicked Jews.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus owns the land. Not those who hate him and exist today solely for that reason. The real Jews accepted him.

Not at all. But Paul says Jesus is the Seed. Not the wicked unbelievers.

Then Paul says it belongs to him and not the wicked who hate him.

there you have it people the true meaning of replacement theology exposed

the promise God gave to one nation a physical piece of land in Canaan, was given to the church.

i rest my case.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

Jesus IS Abraham's Seed. Not the wicked Jews.

Jesus is the seed which was given to abraham to bless all the nations of the world

that has nothing to do with a nation of people who were given a plot of land in the middle east

you just proved replacement theology thank you.

good day sir