Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign

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He did not say this
he said they are blinded in part until the time of the gentile is complete
please look at the passage we are discussing
“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (YLT)
 

Journeyman

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So currently the mount of olives is splitting into two?
It's the result of Jesus standing on the Mt. of Olives. He made a valley that reached the top of the mountains. In other words, turned the land into a plain (abased the proud, but lifted up the humble).
 
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“forbidding us to speak to the nations that they might be saved, to fill up their sins always, but the anger did come upon them—to the end!” 1 Thessalonians 2:16 (YLT)
We are in romans 11 no 2 these
good day sir when your ready to discuss let me know
 

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Christians are the body of Christ
They are not Jews
 
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Don't give up. Let's put it all together and get the big picture.
Let’s start with Dan 9 and romans 11
that’s what we are discussing

You get your view from your view of the big picture I get My view of the big picture by these and other passages
let’s not put the cart before the horse
let’s review passages and let these form
Our view of the big picture
 

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Christians are the body of Christ
They are not Jews
That we (JEWS) should be to the praise of his glory, who first trusted in Christ. In whom ye (GENTILES) also trusted, after that ye heard the word of truth,....And that he might reconcile both unto God in one body Eph.1:12-13, 2:16
 
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Let’s start with Dan 9 and romans 11
that’s what we are discussing

You get your view from your view of the big picture I get My view of the big picture by these and other passages
let’s not put the cart before the horse
let’s review passages and let these form
Our view of the big picture
Who is Israel? Answer this correctly and the debate goes away.
 
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Who is Israel? Answer this correctly and the debate goes away.
which one?

The Israel of romans 9 (spiritual)
or the Israel of romans 11. (physical.. partly blinded)

they are not the same

there is no debate between us and has not been since we started,, because you are not open to discuss what the actual verses say (starting with Dan 9 this morning), you have it in your head you know. so you will not even look at specific passages.

again, Your using theology to interpret scripture instead of letting scripture create your theology.

thats a dangerous thing to do. and destroys any kind of serious discussion
 
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which one?

The Israel of romans 9 (spiritual)
or the Israel of romans 11. (physical.. partly blinded)


they are not the same

there is no debate between us and has not been since we started,, because you are not open to discuss what the actual verses say (starting with Dan 9 this morning), you have it in your head you know. so you will not even look at specific passages.

again, Your using theology to interpret scripture instead of letting scripture create your theology.

thats a dangerous thing to do. and destroys any kind of serious discussion
When Jesus abolished circumcision, only believing Israel was left. Circumcision made one a Jew and a physical member of Israel. Israel is believers only today. Pagan Israel is not biblical Israel.
 
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When Jesus abolished circumcision, only believing Israel was left. Circumcision made one a Jew and a physical member of Israel. Israel is believers only today. Pagan Israel is not biblical Israel.
Your just throwing out opinions
when your ready to discuss genesis daniel
And romans let me know


If you really were secure in your faith here you would gladly discuss it

I am here to discuss the word not opinions
 
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Your just throwing out opinions
when your ready to discuss genesis daniel
And romans let me know


If you really were secure in your faith here you would gladly discuss it

I am here to discuss the word not opinions
You cannot understand Romans until you accurately define Israel.
 
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You cannot understand Romans until you accurately define Israel.
I have
there is physical
Israel which was given earthly promises
there is spiritual
Isreal which was given heavenly promises
you can not interpret prophesy or romans without getting the context correct

I showed this to you in the passage you refuse to discuss it so end of discussion until you look at the passage itself
 
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I have
there is physical
Israel which was given earthly promises
there is spiritual
Isreal which was given heavenly promises
you can not interpret prophesy or romans without getting the context correct


I showed this to you in the passage you refuse to discuss it so end of discussion until you look at the passage itself
“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)
 
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“For all the promises of God in him are yea, and in him Amen, unto the glory of God by us.” 2 Corinthians 1:20 (KJV 1900)
Read above
I will not respond to another passage until you look at the passages in question
I am sick of those who play games
 

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But there is no gap Mentioned in scripture. If there is, you turn Jesus into Antichrist and deny he fulfilled the 70 weeks as written. Serious stuff if you ask me.
Right, and this is pretty funny because Dispensationalists will have a hissy fit if non-dispensationalists cannot find explicit statements in Scripture to support anything against dispensationalism...but they will not support their own claims such as their position on this missing week.

They claim, in essence, the prophetic clock stopped when the Jews rejected Jesus as Messiah..but that's their claim and not something they can prove.

They have one set of standards for those that disagree with them, and another set of standards for themselves.

In my world that is called hypocrisy...and it was a very dominant trait of the cult that I belonged to, as a young man.
 

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Have you ever listened to Jesus' description of the Kingdom before trying to understand Zechariah or Revelation? The pharisees were blinded in their reading of the OT and yet Dispensationalists think along their lines.
What you seem to be doing is taking a couple of verses (out of context I might add) and coloring your misunderstanding of those [few] ONTO the vast majority of the REST of the gospels [accounts]...

For example, you are continually suggesting (it seems to me) that "the kingdom OF THE heavenS" has nothing to do with an earthly-located setting, but rather could better be translated (according to your view) as "UP IN Heaven" (which is not what the phrase is referring to).

I'm going to go search for some posts I've made in the past, that cover some of these flawed ideas that you are presenting in these most recent posts.

brb... :D
 
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Christians are the body of Christ
They are not Jews
Outward Jews are not the body of Christ. Inward Jews that have the Spirit of Christ. His bride in whom God named Christians are. Christian a befitting name . Christian with no other meaning added. . . Resident's of the City of Christ named her husband .