Who will populate the earth in the 1000 year Reign
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Jesus, His appearance to the 12 was not in flesh and blood but flesh and bone.
Luke 24
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
Luke 24
34 Saying, The Lord is risen indeed, and hath appeared to Simon.
35 And they told what things were done in the way, and how he was known of them in breaking of bread.
36 And as they thus spake, Jesus himself stood in the midst of them, and saith unto them, Peace be unto you.
37 But they were terrified and affrighted, and supposed that they had seen a spirit.
38 And he said unto them, Why are ye troubled? and why do thoughts arise in your hearts?
39 Behold my hands and my feet, that it is I myself: handle me, and see; for a spirit hath not flesh and bones, as ye see me have.
40 And when he had thus spoken, he shewed them his hands and his feet.
41 And while they yet believed not for joy, and wondered, he said unto them, Have ye here any meat?
42 And they gave him a piece of a broiled fish, and of an honeycomb.
43 And he took it, and did eat before them.
Do you believe that Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 took place "at Christ's first advent" ? [plz see those verses; and note that v.21 says "the remnant WERE SLAIN" (that is, they DIE / are KILLED)]
Because this is part of ascertaining the "chronology [/sequence of events]".
Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 is parallel, time-wise, with that of the FIRST of TWO "PUNISH" words in Isaiah 24:21-22[23], that being spoken of in vv.21-22a (quoted below--note this is the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words in this Isaiah passage I'm pointing out):
21 In that day the LORD will punish
the host of heaven above
and the kings of the earth below.
22 They will be gathered together
like prisoners in a pit.
They will be confined to a dungeon
[...]
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Then note what FOLLOWS that, is a TIME-PERIOD [v.22b, not shown/quoted above]; and then thereafter [after the TIME-PERIOD] is the SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words that will take place FOLLOWING that intervening TIME-PERIOD that FOLLOWS the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words of that passage (the FIRST of the TWO is paralleling Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 at the time of Christ's 2nd Coming to the earth [YET FUTURE TO US]).
The SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words in the Isaiah 24 passage (FOLLOWING the intervening TIME-PERIOD) which I'm pointing out:
22b [...] and after many days shall they be punished. [this then parallels Revelation 20:11-15, i.e. the final carrying out of the sentence at the GWTj]
Grasping the "chronology" issues is an important part of seeing the correlation (and that Rev19-20 is NOT a stand-alone passage with no corroboration, despite what "amill-teachings" would have us [incorrectly] believe [being notorious for its completely disregarding "chronology" and "timing words"]--and there are more like this...)
Because this is part of ascertaining the "chronology [/sequence of events]".
Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 is parallel, time-wise, with that of the FIRST of TWO "PUNISH" words in Isaiah 24:21-22[23], that being spoken of in vv.21-22a (quoted below--note this is the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words in this Isaiah passage I'm pointing out):
21 In that day the LORD will punish
the host of heaven above
and the kings of the earth below.
22 They will be gathered together
like prisoners in a pit.
They will be confined to a dungeon
[...]
_______
Then note what FOLLOWS that, is a TIME-PERIOD [v.22b, not shown/quoted above]; and then thereafter [after the TIME-PERIOD] is the SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words that will take place FOLLOWING that intervening TIME-PERIOD that FOLLOWS the FIRST of the TWO "PUNISH" words of that passage (the FIRST of the TWO is paralleling Rev19:19,21/16:14-16/20:5 at the time of Christ's 2nd Coming to the earth [YET FUTURE TO US]).
The SECOND of the TWO "PUNISH" words in the Isaiah 24 passage (FOLLOWING the intervening TIME-PERIOD) which I'm pointing out:
22b [...] and after many days shall they be punished. [this then parallels Revelation 20:11-15, i.e. the final carrying out of the sentence at the GWTj]
Grasping the "chronology" issues is an important part of seeing the correlation (and that Rev19-20 is NOT a stand-alone passage with no corroboration, despite what "amill-teachings" would have us [incorrectly] believe [being notorious for its completely disregarding "chronology" and "timing words"]--and there are more like this...)
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The Millennium is a literal future event. Satan will be bound at the beginning of this event and loosed for a short time at the end of it.
Revelation 20
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
Revelation 20
20:1 And I saw an angel come down from heaven, having the key of the bottomless pit and a great chain in his hand.
20:2 And he laid hold on the dragon, that old serpent, which is the Devil, and Satan, and bound him a thousand years,
20:3 And cast him into the bottomless pit, and shut him up, and set a seal upon him, that he should deceive the nations no more, till the thousand years should be fulfilled: and after that he must be loosed a little season.
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Getting closer, this is why I asked if you were roman catholic, they teach it the same way.
But I see from some of your other threads that you started that youre not a roman catholic. Thats great!
satan was bound at the first advent, and will be loosed just before the Lord returns, but it has been 2000 years now, millennium is a 1000. Is that not a problem at all for your view? Is it the cattle on a thousand hill explanation? Cause I have heard it and dont find it convincing because its in psalms, the context of Revelation has nothing that would cause us to make the 42 months, 1000 years, time-time and half-a-time and 1260 days into just "time from the first century until the second advent"
It is too many accurate numbers to say its not actual time being talked about, I would understand if the particular numbers had some signifance when put in greek or hebrew alphabet but the way 42 months is repeated (in different ways) and the way the 1000 years is repeated, I find it difficult to find something in the text that warrants it to be taken symbolically. There is a great deal of symbolism in the Bible, but I believe the 1000 years is right because the disciples were waiting for a kingdom, and Jesus told them they will be judging[note: tense of the word in the greek] the tribes of Israel.
But I see from some of your other threads that you started that youre not a roman catholic. Thats great!
satan was bound at the first advent, and will be loosed just before the Lord returns, but it has been 2000 years now, millennium is a 1000. Is that not a problem at all for your view? Is it the cattle on a thousand hill explanation? Cause I have heard it and dont find it convincing because its in psalms, the context of Revelation has nothing that would cause us to make the 42 months, 1000 years, time-time and half-a-time and 1260 days into just "time from the first century until the second advent"
It is too many accurate numbers to say its not actual time being talked about, I would understand if the particular numbers had some signifance when put in greek or hebrew alphabet but the way 42 months is repeated (in different ways) and the way the 1000 years is repeated, I find it difficult to find something in the text that warrants it to be taken symbolically. There is a great deal of symbolism in the Bible, but I believe the 1000 years is right because the disciples were waiting for a kingdom, and Jesus told them they will be judging[note: tense of the word in the greek] the tribes of Israel.
I agree with what you're saying and I would like to say that for a person of average(debatable, could be far below average) intelligence like myself the two punish words with the time period in between are easily missed in Isaiah 24. I just had a read there and if you continue on reading right into the following chapters it creates its own end times teaching in my opinion.
Right. And because every time you see a number used with the word "years" or "months," it is always THAT MANY literal years and months. 
(even the two places where it says [basically] "a thousand years is AS one day," it is trying to get a point across regarding literal time-frame )
Amen. Praise the Lord, someone "gets" it
Welcome, Kolistus, I see you've joined just today. Hope to see you around the boards.
(even the two places where it says [basically] "a thousand years is AS one day," it is trying to get a point across regarding literal time-frame
)Amen. Praise the Lord, someone "gets" it
Welcome, Kolistus, I see you've joined just today. Hope to see you around the boards.
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