Why is this not being taught in Church?

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7seasrekeyed

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Whispered said:
Don't think Jesus was like you and me at birth. His "earthen vessel" subject to a sin nature. That's actually blasphemy because that is then saying God is a sinner.
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no blasphemy at all. I don't see where anyone said Jesus is a sinner

For we do not have a high priest who cannot sympathize with our weaknesses, but One who has been tempted in all things as we are, yet without sin.
Hebrews 4:15

I know Dino well enough to know he is saying nothing that you seem to think he is saying

not sure why you read him that way, but the Bible is clear Jesus was tempted as we are but He never sinned

I just want to stick with what is actually written

It has always been clear to me that Jesus did not sin but also clear that as He was God on earth so was He also man...the Bible even calls Him the last Adam and the second man

So it is written: "The first man Adam became a living being" the last Adam, a life-giving spirit. The spiritual did not come first, but the natural, and after that the spiritual. The first man was of the dust of the earth, the second man from heaven. As was the earthly man, so are those who are of the earth; and as is the man from heaven, so also are those who are of heaven I Corinthians 15: 45-48
 
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7seasrekeyed

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"Whispered, post: 4153080, member: 288111"]What's unfortunate in your belief system is that you think too little of God. God can do anything. And when Mary was highly favored in God's grace, redeemed of her sins, so as to conceive Jesus, that's just the way it is. God redeemed Mary before Jesus was born to redeem the world.

where are you getting this? that Mary was redeemed of her sins? please show from scripture where that is because I honestly have no recollection of having seen she was sinless

I knew sooner or later someone would start the line, was Jesus sinless? Inevitable. Your statement is very clear, you blaspheme God who was also Jesus. You're trying to say God could be tempted to sin. Because Jesus was God. You fail to realize that and that is why your theology is wrong.

uh...sorry but you are mistaken. that is a very strong accusation you are throwing out there and it is not justified

truth to tell, I am surprised at some of the things you have said lately
 
posthuman

posthuman

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7seasrekeyed said:
baloney
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*bologna

what's with all the name-calling?
wouldn't it be more profitable to talk to garee as though he's an actual person, and address whatever it is you disagree with, instead of just posting personal attacks on him?
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Mary was not sinless.this catholic dogma is pure refusal to acknowledge that only 1 man lived a pure life free from sin

mary gave Jesus his earthly DNA, she did not have to be sinless to carry him

if Jesus was unable to be tempted

1. his sacrifice is invalid, especially if God is a pure perfect judge
2. his high priesthood is a sham,
3. the Bible lied when it says he was tempted all ways as we are, yet without sin.
 
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John146 said:
Yep, that that’s would be a nation that would serve God without fear and be a light to the rest of the world. That’s good news if you’re a Jew.
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If you belong to Christ, then you are Abraham's seed, and heirs according to the promise.
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7seasrekeyed

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I like the blue ones.

Does Christ the anointing Holy Spirit of God as the Son of God have flesh ? Is God a man as us ?
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you are not funny

sad maybe

but certainly not funny

you have some of the most bizarre interpretations, bar none, of anyone on this forum or anywhere else
 
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John146

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If I preached today the message the disciples were preaching before the cross, nobody would get saved. Nobody.
 
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garee

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7seasrekeyed said:
you are not funny

sad maybe

but certainly not funny

you have some of the most bizarre interpretations, bar none, of anyone on this forum or anywhere else
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You are funny and rude .

Did you have a interpretation question?
 
Dino246

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Whispered said:
What's unfortunate in your belief system is that you think too little of God. God can do anything. And when Mary was highly favored in God's grace, redeemed of her sins, so as to conceive Jesus, that's just the way it is. God redeemed Mary before Jesus was born to redeem the world.


I knew sooner or later someone would start the line, was Jesus sinless? Inevitable. Your statement is very clear, you blaspheme God who was also Jesus. You're trying to say God could be tempted to sin. Because Jesus was God. You fail to realize that and that is why your theology is wrong.
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Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, please explain your position on both points. Accusing me of blasphemy doesn't prove anything. I am well aware that Jesus is God, and have not said anything to contradict that.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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John146 said:
If I preached today the message the disciples were preaching before the cross, nobody would get saved. Nobody.
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you keep saying this

what were they preaching?

are you saying everyone before the cross is not saved?

post scripture to back up what you are saying
 
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Wow...how do so many false doctrines get put as main topics...these are not things that belong here for much time....neither Circumcision nor uncircumcision matters but it's the heart that needs to be circumcised...the true Jews are those who are inwardly right. Romans 2 at the end
 
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eternally-gratefull

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Dino246 said:
Instead of getting your knickers in a twist, please explain your position on both points. Accusing me of blasphemy doesn't prove anything. I am well aware that Jesus is God, and have not said anything to contradict that.
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You must have disagreed with her
 
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John146

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7seasrekeyed said:
you keep saying this

what were they preaching?

are you saying everyone before the cross is not saved?

post scripture to back up what you are saying
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They preached the gospel of the kingdom. The good news that the kingdom of heaven was at hand. This is for the Jews only. Signs and miracles were given to prove the message.

Matthew 10
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Have you ever gone around saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand?

Better yet, You post verses were they were preaching Paul’s gospel of the d,b,r for sins.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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John146 said:
They preached the gospel of the kingdom. The good news that the kingdom of heaven was at hand. This is for the Jews only. Signs and miracles were given to prove the message.

Matthew 10
5 These twelve Jesus sent forth, and commanded them, saying, Go not into the way of the Gentiles, and into any city of the Samaritans enter ye not:
6 But go rather to the lost sheep of the house of Israel.
7 And as ye go, preach, saying, The kingdom of heaven is at hand.
8 Heal the sick, cleanse the lepers, raise the dead, cast out devils: freely ye have received, freely give.

Have you ever gone around saying, the kingdom of heaven is at hand?

Better yet, You post verses were they were preaching Paul’s gospel of the d,b,r for sins.
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ok

still not making a point that seems to ... well add to my understanding of what that has to do with this thread

musta missed the posts that connect with it

but if you are saying that what Paul preached was not the gospel....well, you are on your own ;)
 
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John146

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7seasrekeyed said:
ok

still not making a point that seems to ... well add to my understanding of what that has to do with this thread

musta missed the posts that connect with it

but if you are saying that what Paul preached was not the gospel....well, you are on your own ;)
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Paul didn’t preach the gospel of the kingdom, but the gospel of the grace of God, the d,b,r for sins.
 
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7seasrekeyed

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Timothy5378 said:
Wow...how do so many false doctrines get put as main topics...these are not things that belong here for much time....neither Circumcision nor uncircumcision matters but it's the heart that needs to be circumcised...the true Jews are those who are inwardly right. Romans 2 at the end
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oh well

now that you are here, we can get all that squared away

 
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