Back to my question, 42 month symbol of what?Numbers are symbolic in Revelation. You won't understand how to interpret them as a literalist. So it's futile trying to discuss it.
Back to my question, 42 month symbol of what?Numbers are symbolic in Revelation. You won't understand how to interpret them as a literalist. So it's futile trying to discuss it.
In the middle of the book we see a time period that recurs, phrased in different ways: “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5); “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6); “time, times, and half a time” (12:14). These time periods are figurative, not literal.895 They all stem from or are variants of times stated in Dan 7:25; 9:27; 12:7, 11–12. The time references in Daniel originally applied to the three and a half years of Antiochus Epiphanes’s depredations against Israel until the success of the Maccabean revolt. In typical prophetic fashion, however, the inter-testamental Jewish writings took this time period to signify “a general time of trial for believers, as a time associated with Israel’s Babylonian captivity, or as the period that must pass before Israel’s final redemption.”896 John is taking that three-and-a-half year time period in its archetypal sense of a time of severe testing until God gives his people final relief and is applying it to the church. Rev 12:5–6 shows that this period of testing began at Christ’s resurrection and ascension. It will end with his return in glory at the parousia.897 There is more to the “three and a half years” than simply an undetermined length of time that extends from Christ’s ascension until the parousia. That is seen in how John has structured the time periods. The time of the Gentiles trampling the “holy city” (11:2) = the time of prophesying of the “two witnesses” (11:3) = the time the “woman” is in the wilderness (12:14). The “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5), “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6), and “time, times, and half a time” (12:14) are all different ways of referring to the same period, but the different ways of phrasing this time period indicate different perspectives or theological emphases. In their order of appearance and significance, they are arranged chiastically: the “forty-two months” focus on the church’s enemies and their aggression against the church; whereas the “twelve hundred and sixty days” and “time, times, and half a time” focus on the church’s witness and protection by God, as follows: 898 A. 42 months: The “holy city” is trampled by the nations (Rev 11:1–2). B. 1260 days: The “two witnesses” prophesy and cannot be harmed (Rev 11:3–6). B’. 1260 days [as expanded by “time, times, and half a time”]: The “woman” is nourished and protected in the wilderness (Rev 12:6, 13–16). A’. 42 months: The “beast” blasphemes and makes war against the “saints” (Rev 13:5). Suffering and safety, trial and testimony, alienation and nourishment are all bound up in these descriptions of the time of testing of the church.899 Through it all, these descriptions also demonstrate God’s sovereigny over the church, Satan, suffering, and evil.Back to my question, 42 month symbol of what?
In the middle of the book we see a time period that recurs, phrased in different ways: “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5); “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6); “time, times, and half a time” (12:14). These time periods are figurative, not literal.895 They all stem from or are variants of times stated in Dan 7:25; 9:27; 12:7, 11–12. The time references in Daniel originally applied to the three and a half years of Antiochus Epiphanes’s depredations against Israel until the success of the Maccabean revolt. In typical prophetic fashion, however, the inter-testamental Jewish writings took this time period to signify “a general time of trial for believers, as a time associated with Israel’s Babylonian captivity, or as the period that must pass before Israel’s final redemption.”896 John is taking that three-and-a-half year time period in its archetypal sense of a time of severe testing until God gives his people final relief and is applying it to the church. Rev 12:5–6 shows that this period of testing began at Christ’s resurrection and ascension. It will end with his return in glory at the parousia.897 There is more to the “three and a half years” than simply an undetermined length of time that extends from Christ’s ascension until the parousia. That is seen in how John has structured the time periods. The time of the Gentiles trampling the “holy city” (11:2) = the time of prophesying of the “two witnesses” (11:3) = the time the “woman” is in the wilderness (12:14). The “forty-two months” (11:2; 13:5), “twelve hundred and sixty days” (11:3; 12:6), and “time, times, and half a time” (12:14) are all different ways of referring to the same period, but the different ways of phrasing this time period indicate different perspectives or theological emphases. In their order of appearance and significance, they are arranged chiastically: the “forty-two months” focus on the church’s enemies and their aggression against the church; whereas the “twelve hundred and sixty days” and “time, times, and half a time” focus on the church’s witness and protection by God, as follows: 898 A. 42 months: The “holy city” is trampled by the nations (Rev 11:1–2). B. 1260 days: The “two witnesses” prophesy and cannot be harmed (Rev 11:3–6). B’. 1260 days [as expanded by “time, times, and half a time”]: The “woman” is nourished and protected in the wilderness (Rev 12:6, 13–16). A’. 42 months: The “beast” blasphemes and makes war against the “saints” (Rev 13:5). Suffering and safety, trial and testimony, alienation and nourishment are all bound up in these descriptions of the time of testing of the church.899 Through it all, these descriptions also demonstrate God’s sovereigny over the church, Satan, suffering, and evil.
Menn, Jonathan. Biblical Eschatology . Resource Publications - An Imprint of Wipf and Stock Publishers. Kindle Edition.
The entire New Covenant era is tribulation.If I am correct, you believe we are in 3 1/2 tribulation now, so you believe we in the first 3 1/2 years tribulation or second 3 1/2 tribulation?
The entire New Covenant era is tribulation.
You are looking for the wrong thing. It's been here several times even recently in the USA to a small extent. But you will never see it with your physical eyes.Than why No body offer me mark of the beast and I am still able to buy and sale
You are looking for the wrong thing. It's been here several times even recently in the USA to a small extent. But you will never see it with your physical eyes.
This observation shows how poorly you understand the New Covenant as well as Bible prophecy.The entire New Covenant era is tribulation.
How do you explain the history of martyrdom in the church?This observation shows how poorly you understand the New Covenant as well as Bible prophecy.
Following your denomination's ideas won't help you. You will need to labor in the Word and ask God to open your eyes to the truth.
How about the Christian businesses that cannot buy or sell unless they comply with sodomite laws? (receive the mark)?If there a law for people not able to buy or sale without the mark. Every body know It.
Rev 13 say the beast have authority to all nations not only USA.
How about the Christian businesses that cannot buy or sell unless they comply with sodomite laws? (receive the mark)?
If you study history, you will see this many times from the first century on. The fact that you still look for it means you will miss it when it happens again.That is not a sign of great tribulation. In the great tribulation, No body able to buy or sale without the mark
17 And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.
I think we can not to change the bible or make our own verse.
Verse 17 say, and that No man.
You change in to
And that some businessman
This is huge different brother.
No man mean No mankind now about 7.8 billion
Some businessman I believe about 100 million, some, not all
If you study history, you will see this many times from the first century on. The fact that you still look for it means you will miss it when it happens again.
If you study history, you will see this many times from the first century on. The fact that you still look for it means you will miss it when it happens again.
The great tribulation happened in 70 AD to the Jews. Great tribulation is the believer's lot in Christ. If you haven't any tribulation, the Devil likes you.You say many time in the history so you believe great tribulation Come and go?
Persecution always happen in some country, like middle east or north Korea or China, but great tribulation where all Christian in the whole world Will suffer under one world government never happen and Will happen in the future
Nero was one. The Papacy is the biggie. And Islam is about to make an entrance.Can you show me when in the history a man rule the whole world and kill all that are not accept the mark of the beast?
Nero was one. The Papacy is the biggie. And Islam is about to make an entrance.
The Roman Empire was a one world government. The Papacy too.No body above success to create one worl government.
They attempt to rule the world but not one of them success, I believe in the near future pope Will success as the book of revelation say, It Will be one world government