What real salvation is.
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Here's my approach to walking in the Spirit.
“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;” (2 Corinthians 10:5) (KJV 1900)
We censor every impure thought or imagination. And change the channel in our thinking on any thought that does not conform to obedience to Christ.
And we replace it with:
“Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” (Philippians 4:8)
Knowing Jesus is God and God is love, Jesus is lord of our lives when love rules our thoughts and actions.
“Casting down imaginations, and every high thing that exalteth itself against the knowledge of God, and bringing into captivity every thought to the obedience of Christ;” (2 Corinthians 10:5) (KJV 1900)
We censor every impure thought or imagination. And change the channel in our thinking on any thought that does not conform to obedience to Christ.
And we replace it with:
“Finally, brethren, whatsoever things are true, whatsoever things are honest, whatsoever things are just, whatsoever things are pure, whatsoever things are lovely, whatsoever things are of good report; if there be any virtue, and if there be any praise, think on these things.” (Philippians 4:8)
Knowing Jesus is God and God is love, Jesus is lord of our lives when love rules our thoughts and actions.
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And this is not a root of pride, thinking you made it.
pride itself is a sin, so is lying
your right, we can love our brothers, so while loving we will break commands, but what you do not get, is even paul said we are a work in progress, non of us loves as God loves, hence why none of us are sinless
pride itself is a sin, so is lying
your right, we can love our brothers, so while loving we will break commands, but what you do not get, is even paul said we are a work in progress, non of us loves as God loves, hence why none of us are sinless
2 Timothy 3
4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.
-there will be those who deny the power of the cross in dealing with the old man.
-there will be those who would rather defend the sinful nature and the inability for holiness, than to embrace the victory which was procured
-there will be those who claim to live by faith, but are deceived.
4 traitors, headstrong, haughty, lovers of pleasure rather than lovers of God, 5 having a form of godliness but denying its power. And from such people turn away! 6 For of this sort are those who creep into households and make captives of gullible women loaded down with sins, led away by various lusts, 7 always learning and never able to come to the knowledge of the truth. 8 Now as Jannes and Jambres resisted Moses, so do these also resist the truth: men of corrupt minds, disapproved concerning the faith; 9 but they will progress no further, for their folly will be manifest to all, as theirs also was.
-there will be those who deny the power of the cross in dealing with the old man.
-there will be those who would rather defend the sinful nature and the inability for holiness, than to embrace the victory which was procured
-there will be those who claim to live by faith, but are deceived.
Someone who is walking in the Spirit would never tell other people that they have reached Sinless Perfection.
That would be comparing themselves to The Power that is the cause of their Salvation and their Walk with the Lord.
Instead, they would be saying that their sufficiency is not in themselves, but in God. So it is the Power of God (in humility) that would be boasted in and NOT someone's "perfect sinlessness".
No one could say that they are walking in the Spirit perfectly 100% of the time. Except for my daughters friend from bible college, Nicole. She is adamant that she does...
That would be comparing themselves to The Power that is the cause of their Salvation and their Walk with the Lord.
Instead, they would be saying that their sufficiency is not in themselves, but in God. So it is the Power of God (in humility) that would be boasted in and NOT someone's "perfect sinlessness".
No one could say that they are walking in the Spirit perfectly 100% of the time. Except for my daughters friend from bible college, Nicole. She is adamant that she does...
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((as i read it))
as many as are mature/complete/perfect be thus minded, he says.
be of what mind?
to not consider yourself to have reached perfection, v. 13 -- and if you aren't thus minded, v.15, but think you have become perfect, God will reveal it to you, that you have not yet attained, but ought to continue to press onward toward the high mark.
this doesn't in itself prove sinlessness on earth impossible, but it shows that it isn't the case and that it not being the case doesn't disqualify anyone from having salvation. it remains to explore what 'perfect' means -- as i put earlier, this word in Greek doesn't necessarily have the connotation it does in English; it means also to have become fully grown, to have reached maturity, etc. Paul refers to Himself here in Philippians as though one of these 'mature' but simultaneously refers to himself as not having 'attained' the goal, but still in himself needing to continue to press on towards it.
here it is again in Ephesians:
as many as are mature/complete/perfect be thus minded, he says.
be of what mind?
to not consider yourself to have reached perfection, v. 13 -- and if you aren't thus minded, v.15, but think you have become perfect, God will reveal it to you, that you have not yet attained, but ought to continue to press onward toward the high mark.
Nevertheless, to the degree that we have already attained, let us walk by the same rule, let us be of the same mind.
(Philippians 3:16)
here he speaks broadly of all the saints, saying we have each reached to different measures. clearly being 100% perfect is not a prerequisite to being numbered among the saved. this doesn't in itself prove sinlessness on earth impossible, but it shows that it isn't the case and that it not being the case doesn't disqualify anyone from having salvation. it remains to explore what 'perfect' means -- as i put earlier, this word in Greek doesn't necessarily have the connotation it does in English; it means also to have become fully grown, to have reached maturity, etc. Paul refers to Himself here in Philippians as though one of these 'mature' but simultaneously refers to himself as not having 'attained' the goal, but still in himself needing to continue to press on towards it.
here it is again in Ephesians:
And He Himself gave some to be apostles, some prophets, some evangelists, and some pastors and teachers, for the equipping of the saints for the work of ministry, for the edifying of the body of Christ, till we all come to the unity of the faith and of the knowledge of the Son of God, to a perfect man, to the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ; that we should no longer be children, tossed to and fro and carried about with every wind of doctrine, by the trickery of men, in the cunning craftiness of deceitful plotting, but, speaking the truth in love, may grow up in all things into Him who is the head — Christ — from whom the whole body, joined and knit together by what every joint supplies, according to the effective working by which every part does its share, causes growth of the body for the edifying of itself in love.
(Ephesians 4:11-16)
see how he speaks of us all growing and being built up towards the goal of being absolutely conformed to the image of Christ? but there's no hint of the presumption that no one who hasn't reached the measure of the stature of the fullness of Christ is yet saved. the saved are continually being edified and growing in knowledge of Him, in love, to this end - but still being imperfect, are even so called saints. -
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