When he comes from heaven , & new Jerusalem with HIM , Is when he will punish the wicked , They will surround the city , and fire will come from GOD out of heaven , and devour them .
Because GOD dose not think like we DO . REV 16:12 THE church is still here at the sixth vial is poured out ,Agreed. And it wouldn’t be His entire body. Most of the Church has died and are present with the Lord. One would have to believe only a small part of His body would go through the tribulation. And why would that be so?
There is difference between prince/ princesses and commoners...There is no 1000 year reign. If there were, flesh and blood cannot inherit it. Only saints in glorified bodies. This means when Satan is loosed he would have saints in glorified bodies attacking other saints in glorified bodies until the Lord returns.
The 1000 years = the binding of Satan. Not the kingdom. Satan attacks the kingdom when the 1000 years end.
Here is a possible order...When he comes from heaven , & new Jerusalem with HIM , Is when he will punish the wicked , They will surround the city , and fire will come from GOD out of heaven , and devour them .
Because GOD dose not think like we DO . REV 16:12 THE church is still here at the sixth vial is poured out
No! The church is not here during the sixth vial. The word "ekklesia" translated "church" is used 19 times throughout chapters 1 thru 3 and never seen again until chapter 22:16. Please show us where the church is mentioned within the seals, trumpets or bowl judgments. You won't find it!
[quoteAt REV 16: 17 is the end of the world . the church will be HERE ,through the plagues . But GOD will be with them .
WE are not no better then the reformers , they gave their lives . We need to be ready to give our lives also . and some will.
Revelation 20:4-6 says otherwise. It specifically states that those in the first resurrection will reign with Christ for a 1000 years.There is no millennium. If there were, only glorified saints would populate it since flesh and blood cannot inherit the Kingdom. This leaves only glorified saints for Satan to rally in war against the other glorified saints when loosed.
This seems to be the case.Those who are converted during the tribulation will populate the millennium right![]()
Those who are in Christ will receive glorified bodies when he comes...This seems to be the case.
“IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Colossians 3:1 (AMP)5555555
Revelation 20:4-6 says otherwise. It specifically states that those in the first resurrection will reign with Christ for a 1000 years.
“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)There is difference between prince/ princesses and commoners...
Though they both live in the kingdom.
The prince/s will inherit the kingdom.
Thats the beginning of understanding... and thus the kingdom come upon you.“But if I with the finger of God cast out devils, no doubt the kingdom of God is come upon you.” Luke 11:20 (KJV 1900)
The kingdom arrived with Jesus.
Please read my post #24“IF THEN you have been raised with Christ [to a new life, thus sharing His resurrection from the dead], aim at and seek the [rich, eternal treasures] that are above, where Christ is, seated at the right hand of God.” Colossians 3:1 (AMP)
We presently rule with Christ. If the 1000 years are the Kingdom, how does Satan attack it when it ends?
This is the order but you are applying it to a physical kingdom. Here's how it works out with the present spiritual kingdom. Satan was bound by the gospel from deceiving the nations (Greek = ethnic groups throughout the world.) This fulfilling the promise to Abraham. He was recently loosed to deceive the world so that we are now living in the post Christian era. The church is being assailed from all quarters especially from within. Christ's return is imminent resulting in the resurrection, the rapture and the conflagration of the universe. And the New Heavens and Earth emerging from it.Please read my post #24
Present spiritual kingdom????This is the order but you are applying it to a physical kingdom. Here's how it works out with the present spiritual kingdom. Satan was bound by the gospel from deceiving the nations (Greek = ethnic groups throughout the world.) This fulfilling the promise to Abraham. He was recently loosed to deceive the world so that we are now living in the post Christian era. The church is being assailed from all quarters especially from within. Christ's return is imminent resulting in the resurrection, the rapture and the conflagration of the universe. And the New Heavens and Earth emerging from it.
Here's the problem The Kingdom is here, but only the born again can see it.Present spiritual kingdom????
Did not paul said he MUST REIGN...
Cannot see that means immediately...Here's the problem The Kingdom is here, but only the born again can see it.
“Jesus answered and said unto him, Verily, verily, I say unto thee, Except a man be born again, he cannot see the kingdom of God.” John 3:3 (KJV 1900)
No, unless born again, you cannot see it even though it's here.Cannot see that means immediately...
Did Jesus said
Mat 16:28 KJV Verily I say unto you, There be some standing here, which shall not taste of death, till they see the Son of man coming in his kingdom.
I am not saying you do not need to be born again. What iam saying, the kingdom is future....what scriptures say that there is spiritual kingdom?No, unless born again, you cannot see it even though it's here.
Please consider the spiritual nature of the Kingdom:I am not saying you do not need to be born again. What iam saying, the kingdom is future....what scriptures say that there is spiritual kingdom?