Can One’s Salvation Be Given Up?

[Roughsoul1991]

Satan and all the devils , Belonged to GOD until they sinned , If WE hold on to SIN until we DIE , We will also be LOST , It don't matter how much we say we are saved , or if we where saved , THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH , GOD DON'T LIE . 2- JOHN 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of CHRIST, hath not GOD . 1 - JOHN 3:8 Whosoeveris born of GOD doth not commit sin;
1 - JOHN 3:6 Whosoever abideth in HIM SINNETH not , 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the Devil: GOD doesn't LIE .
REV 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints ; here are they that keep the commandments of GOD , and the faith of JESUS , This is a requirement for GODs saints . It says they are keeping the Commandments . Satan was cast out of Heaven for Sinning .I HOPE you Don't think that GODs going to lie and let us in when we are sinning .Heaven wouldn't be any better then this earth . It would be FULL of sin and sinners TOO . Nothing that maketh a lie or defileth , will not enter there in . THIS MEANS US . GOD PLEASE HELP US ,WE NEED IT .

Where does God's grace and redemption through Christ enter this equation?

 

[bud62]

Where does God's grace and redemption through Christ enter this equation?

His Grace is that HE forgive , where we have walked on HIS LAWS . AND HE dose not even owe us this . SO it is by HIS Grace that HE for gives us of that, But we haft to repent and stop walking on HIS LAWS , if we want HIM to save US .

 

[bud62]

One can turn their back and lose faith, but God remains faithful. Circumstances in life may cause a believer to drift away from the Lord, but the Lord never loses that which is His.

There is no one that can take you out of GODs HAND, BUT by your own free will you can jump out . HE dose not take your free will from US ,SAVE OR LOST ,

 

[Roughsoul1991]

His Grace is that HE forgive , where we have walked on HIS LAWS . AND HE dose not even owe us this . SO it is by HIS Grace that HE for gives us of that, But we haft to repent and stop walking on HIS LAWS , if we want HIM to save US .

Have you stopped walking on all of God's laws yet?

 

[bud62]

Have you stopped walking on all of God's laws yet?

I sort like Paul on that , when HE says that he has not oftain yet ,But I still striving & GODs still working on me .

 

[bud62]

I have a hard time with EATTING , TRYING not to more than I should .

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I sort like Paul on that , when HE says that he has not oftain yet ,But I still striving & GODs still working on me .

So are you saved right now?

 

[bud62]

So are you saved right now?

I am striving and have not give up yet , And have that HOPE OF lIFE WITH JESUS , But to say that I will make , I will leave , FOR GOD to say , I know if I make it , THAT IT will be through JESUS ,GOD bless as HE sees FIT.

 

[Guojing]

I am striving and have not give up yet , And have that HOPE OF lIFE WITH JESUS , But to say that I will make , I will leave , FOR GOD to say , I know if I make it , THAT IT will be through JESUS ,GOD bless as HE sees FIT.

I guess if you are not even sure that you are saved, you will indeed believe that one can lose his salvation.

 

[Roughsoul1991]

I am striving and have not give up yet , And have that HOPE OF lIFE WITH JESUS , But to say that I will make , I will leave , FOR GOD to say , I know if I make it , THAT IT will be through JESUS ,GOD bless as HE sees FIT.

A Christian can know without a doubt if we are saved right now. Sin will always be in the flesh.

Ephesians 2:8-9 New International Version (NIV)
8 For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith—and this is not from yourselves, it is the gift of God— 9 not by works, so that no one can boast.

Faith in the sacrifice, promise, forgiveness for sin and redemption that comes through Christ. All the believer must do is remain faithful. Belief in Jesus Christ. No works can save. We will never be perfect but always will fall short. We are not worthy of grace but grace isn't achievable, it is given despite our failures.

You are doing fine. Stop doubting salvation and just live out your faith boldly.

 

[bud62]

I guess if you are not even sure that you are saved, you will indeed believe that one can lose his salvation.

GOD can BLOT out my name just like anyone else , GOD will not lie , even to save us , IF we do not give up our sins , WE will be JUST as lost as Satan ,. AND HE WILL BE BURNT TO ASHES ,UPON THE GROUND , FOR the righteous to walk on his ashes , AND he will be no more ,just like MALACHI 4:1-3 tells us AND EZEKIEL 28:13 - 19 tells us he will.

 

[Guojing]

GOD can BLOT out my name just like anyone else , GOD will not lie , even to save us , IF we do not give up our sins , WE will be JUST as lost as Satan ,. AND HE WILL BE BURNT TO ASHES ,UPON THE GROUND , FOR the righteous to walk on his ashes , AND he will be no more ,just like MALACHI 4:1-3 tells us AND EZEKIEL 28:13 - 19 tells us he will.

Okay, if you want to adopt that view, no one can stop you.

 

[bud62]

Okay, if you want to adopt that view, no one can stop you.

There is no other way to look at it if you believe all the BIBLE , AND believe it was written to show the right way .
I believe the doctrine once saved always saved will cause more people to be lost then about any other false doctrine .

 

[Guojing]

There is no other way to look at it if you believe all the BIBLE , AND believe it was written to show the right way .
I believe the doctrine once saved always saved will cause more people to be lost then about any other false doctrine .

I understand, we tend to think what we believe to be true must therefore be the only truth that all others must also believe in.

 

[bud62]

I understand, we tend to think what we believe to be true must therefore be the only truth that all others must also believe in.

It is very plain in the BIBLE , And only needs to tell me in one place .GOD has no respect of persons IF one group of haft to endure then all haft to endure . IF we will look at the OLD testament close , we can see that they where saves by GRACE JUST LIKE we are . The only difference is that the ten Commandments was WROTE in stone then . BUT now the ten Commandments is wrote in our HEARTS . 1 COR 7:19 tells you what is important in the new covenant ,IT's WHAT ???

 

[Guojing]

It is very plain in the BIBLE , And only needs to tell me in one place .GOD has no respect of persons IF one group of haft to endure then all haft to endure . IF we will look at the OLD testament close , we can see that they where saves by GRACE JUST LIKE we are . The only difference is that the ten Commandments was WROTE in stone then . BUT now the ten Commandments is wrote in our HEARTS . 1 COR 7:19 tells you what is important in the new covenant ,IT's WHAT ???

Yes, to us individually, we always like to assume that what is plain for us, is also plain for everyone else.

 

[bud62]

Yes, to us individually, we always like to assume that what is plain for us, is also plain for everyone else.

Well it was not to plain to me before , I had to learn a little history , So I could see some of the prophecys that have already happen . To know the prophecys that has already happen , YOU do haft to know History , I did say I only needed the BIBLE , I didn't need the other Books , BUT I was Wrong ,

 

[Roughsoul1991]

GOD can BLOT out my name just like anyone else , GOD will not lie , even to save us , IF we do not give up our sins , WE will be JUST as lost as Satan ,. AND HE WILL BE BURNT TO ASHES ,UPON THE GROUND , FOR the righteous to walk on his ashes , AND he will be no more ,just like MALACHI 4:1-3 tells us AND EZEKIEL 28:13 - 19 tells us he will.

It is very plain in the BIBLE , And only needs to tell me in one place .GOD has no respect of persons IF one group of haft to endure then all haft to endure . IF we will look at the OLD testament close , we can see that they where saves by GRACE JUST LIKE we are . The only difference is that the ten Commandments was WROTE in stone then . BUT now the ten Commandments is wrote in our HEARTS . 1 COR 7:19 tells you what is important in the new covenant ,IT's WHAT ???

Is it obedience to God's commands that save you though? I didn't see that in 1 Corinthians 7:19. Of course it is very important in a Christian walk.

 

[John146]

There is no 100% physical manifestation of healing now. You don't disagree with that correct?

Do people have the gift of healing on the mission field? They should visit cancer hospitals, let that be their mission field.

 

[John146]

Satan and all the devils , Belonged to GOD until they sinned , If WE hold on to SIN until we DIE , We will also be LOST , It don't matter how much we say we are saved , or if we where saved , THE WAGES OF SIN IS DEATH , GOD DON'T LIE . 2- JOHN 1:9 Whosoever transgresseth, and abideth not in the doctrine of CHRIST, hath not GOD . 1 - JOHN 3:8 Whosoeveris born of GOD doth not commit sin;
1 - JOHN 3:6 Whosoever abideth in HIM SINNETH not , 3:8 He that committeth sin is of the Devil: GOD doesn't LIE .
REV 14:12 Here is the patience of the saints ; here are they that keep the commandments of GOD , and the faith of JESUS , This is a requirement for GODs saints . It says they are keeping the Commandments . Satan was cast out of Heaven for Sinning .I HOPE you Don't think that GODs going to lie and let us in when we are sinning .Heaven wouldn't be any better then this earth . It would be FULL of sin and sinners TOO . Nothing that maketh a lie or defileth , will not enter there in . THIS MEANS US . GOD PLEASE HELP US ,WE NEED IT .

Salvation is a one time event. Revelation 14:12 are tribulation saints.