Why the Baptism with the Holy Spirit is not for Today
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There is only one baptism( ephe.4,4-5). And this is what every believer has. The gifts of the Holy Spirit are given from the Holy Spirit to all, according the will of the Holy Spirit. (To read in 1.cor.12)
There is no scriptual proof that only those got the baptism with the Holy Spirit, which got laying hand on from the 12 Apostles.
Bye the way, whom you count as the 12.th apostle?
There is no scriptual proof that only those got the baptism with the Holy Spirit, which got laying hand on from the 12 Apostles.
Bye the way, whom you count as the 12.th apostle?
Can you find an example from scripture where an Apostle was not involved in distributing the Baptism of the Holy Spirit? The "Gift" of the Holy Spirit is for all believers forever. But the Baptism was only for the 12 Apostles whom God gave it to at Pentecost, those at Cornelius' house, and any the Apostles laid hands on.
“For to one is given by the Spirit the word of wisdom; to another the word of knowledge by the same Spirit; To another faith by the same Spirit; to another the gifts of healing by the same Spirit; To another the working of miracles; to another prophecy; to another discerning of spirits; to another divers kinds of tongues; to another the interpretation of tongues:” 1 Corinthians 12:8–10 (KJV 1900)
If you read the scripture that you posted, then you should be able to answer your question with it.
To one is given....to another is given... Didn't say everyone would have them all, did it? Now you can have more than one gift, but it is given by the Spirit as he wills.
Read 1 Corinthians 12. It explains it all well. Paul starts out by saying he would not have you ignorant concerning the gifts, and explains it really well in that chapter.
To one is given....to another is given... Didn't say everyone would have them all, did it? Now you can have more than one gift, but it is given by the Spirit as he wills.
Read 1 Corinthians 12. It explains it all well. Paul starts out by saying he would not have you ignorant concerning the gifts, and explains it really well in that chapter.
Dave you can turn a blind eye if you want that's up to you. However, if you want to see and open up your spiritual eyes then the scripture is right there in front of you. You have danced all around it, and twisted it up and down and all around by saying show me this show me that. If you really want to see then open your eyes because the scripture is right there in front of you.
44 While Peter yet spake these words, the Holy Ghost fell on all them which heard the word.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,....
(Not in the cessationists cherry picked butcher job workbook huh?)
You love your invincible ignorance.
That incubator has you perverting the word.
You do not know the bible.
Stop acting like you do.
45 And they of the circumcision which believed were astonished, as many as came with Peter, because that on the Gentiles also was poured out the gift of the Holy Ghost.
46 For they heard them speak with tongues, and magnify God. Then answered Peter,....
(Not in the cessationists cherry picked butcher job workbook huh?)
You love your invincible ignorance.
That incubator has you perverting the word.
You do not know the bible.
Stop acting like you do.
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Once again, it would pay to read 1 Corinthians 12. It is all explained. Are all apostles, Dave? I would say no. So that throws out your theory of only given to apostles, wouldn't you say?
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
27 Now ye are the body of Christ, and members in particular.
28 And God hath set some in the church, first apostles, secondarily prophets, thirdly teachers, after that miracles, then gifts of healings, helps, governments, diversities of tongues.
29 Are all apostles? are all prophets? are all teachers? are all workers of miracles?
30 Have all the gifts of healing? do all speak with tongues? do all interpret?
31 But covet earnestly the best gifts: and yet shew I unto you a more excellent way.
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