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EleventhHour said:
Yes and you are to expose us correct because you dogma of perseverance of the saint states a believer has no choice in the matter of sanctification.

And I am wise to your "professed believer" terminology.

A believer does not practice sin because Jesus within us does not practice sin...it is really a shame Mr Calvin made this error because his false understanding now permeates Churchianity....nuff said.

I am not being made righteous...only Jesus is righteous ...l walk in Him I exemplify Him...I walk in the flesh I exemplify the flesh...is this such a difficult truth concept?

The more we walk in the Spirit the less power/control of the flesh...again simple.

But no....you have to make sin the big issue rather being honest with scripture and agreeing with scripture that the believer who is practicing sin has a faith and grace issue.

I am done with you sir for now because life calls but I an intuitive person and you keep adding credence to my suspicions of who you are.
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I didn’t expose anyone.
 
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VCO said:
Here is where most Christians, forget what was taught about Controversy, which can be a sugar coated argument.


Titus 3:9 (NIV)
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels
about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
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Examining myself is a foolish question?
 
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VCO said:
Here is where most Christians, forget what was taught about Controversy, which can be a sugar coated argument.


Titus 3:9 (NIV)
9 But avoid foolish controversies and genealogies and arguments and quarrels
about the law, because these are unprofitable and useless.
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Do you think 123,963 are foolish questions too?
 
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EleventhHour said:
Anyone else agree...but you are coming close to revealing yourself.

Your response to EG on besetting sin...very revealing.
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The definition of besetting reveals that besetting sin is never what I was ever talking about😀
 
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Discern said:
Define besetting. How does it differ from what I have been talking about? Think real hard
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I did ask you. And you answered. And I discerned inconstency in argument. People say “those who are saved do not practice sin” and then say “some who are saved do practice sin”

Law of non contradiction applies here. Both cannot be true. Pick one or the other
 
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eternally-gratefull said:
So this excuses sin
wow man your scaring me
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it wasnt sin then when they did it man. sin depends on the law. if the law says it at that time its wrong. like back then it was good to bring animal sacrifices to temple but now its no longer good because its different covenant. thats why sometimes things in the o.t. its different

like noah can eat all animals but in leviticus only certain animals. but noah didnt break the law because that wasnt the law for him.. or is it for us either
 
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Discern said:
I did ask you. And you answered. And I discerned inconstency in argument. People say “those who are saved do not practice sin” and then say “some who are saved do practice sin”

Law of non contradiction applies here. Both cannot be true. Pick one or the other
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So is John right in saying what he repeatedly said in his writings? Yes. Everything he said was right.
 
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Discern said:
The experiment is concluded.
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I disagree, I personally didn't like you pretending to ask a question.... saying it is not a yes or no question... before asking "simple yes or no".. me then explaining why it is not a yes or no question as well as giving an honest answer.... you then choosing wether my answer was yes or no... followed by you saying "it was not a yes or no question"...



If you look to the last post where I addressed the tactics of the dishonest. You DEFINITELY show more than one of them.
 
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Melach said:
it wasnt sin then when they did it man. sin depends on the law. if the law says it at that time its wrong. like back then it was good to bring animal sacrifices to temple but now its no longer good because its different covenant. thats why sometimes things in the o.t. its different

like noah can eat all animals but in leviticus only certain animals. but noah didnt break the law because that wasnt the law for him.. or is it for us either
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Take a look at 2 Samuel 12:8. You might find something there.
 
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Discern said:
but you cannot say someone is morally upright if they reject Jesus
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i can and will. what we mean by morally upright is that they are in our perspective "ok" regular people. like they arent evil as can be.

take example some single guy in his 40s who works as a car mechanic. he goes to work, goes to the store, goes home is on computer watches maybe tv or has coffee with friends after work.
take example some family guy in his 40s who does same things plus family stuff

so yes these people are morally upright people they dont steal they dont do anything crazy against the law like that. thats what i call morally upright. that doesnt mean they are saved many unsaved people behave amazingly good like buddhists and mormons etc.
 
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OneOfHis said:
I disagree, I personally didn't like you pretending to ask a question.... saying it is not a yes or no question... me then explaining why it is not a yes or no question as well as giving an honest answer.... you then choosing wether my answer was yes or no... followed by you saying "it was not a yes or no question"...



If you look to the last post where I addressed the tactics of the dishonest. You DEFINITELY show more than one of them.
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You said both propositions were possible. Therefore you said yes to both. But as originally framed, it was not a yes or no question. Was it?
 
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Discern said:
Take a look at 2 Samuel 12:8. You might find something there.
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yes what about it? i agree with the verse but im horrified by it at the same time. ive seen that verse here before and i read it and was shocked that God would just give wives to someone like that. doesnt the wife get a vote? :D God is God wife opinion not important
 
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