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Discern

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OneOfHis said:
Your answer is yes?

A man "living in sin" by your definition can be saved?


That surprises me.

You have now again confused me as to why you claimed I am backwards before twisting the heart issue from how the heart reacts to sin that has happened and if a good heart can produce the same sin in multiple occasions...


I agree a horrible life is evidence of ones lack of maturity in Christ, how they feel about it could also be lack of a NEW God given heart and desire for righteousness if they call good evil and evil good.


I'd also agree one who calls good evil and evil good and LOVES sin opposed to HATES it SEEMINGLY before man does not have God working in them the same way He worked in me.



Your approach and words felt like condescending double talk...


anyways

i really do have to go

but i am confused as to where we disagree again
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Because the question was POSSIBILITY of not being saved

And yes, the actions do indicate heart. Jesus said so
 
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Discern said:
Too bad his post is not even close to repeating what I am saying. 🙂
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Then you twisted my point.

I was dead on...

Either you said the first thing i said was possible or you changed my point from about how a new God given heart feels about sin, to how a wicked heart CAN be revealed by sin (different from always is when we dont see all as God can)
 
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Lightskin said:
I’m not saying a person who lives such a lifestyle could not give their life to Christ. I’m not implying that’s what you’re saying either. Bottom line, if such a person gave their life to Christ at one time, God’s gift of grace is irrevocable.
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Never denied this.
 
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OneOfHis said:
Then you twisted my point.

I was dead on...

Either you said the first thing i said was possible or you changed my point from about how a new God given heart feels about sin, to how a wicked heart CAN be revealed by sin (different from always is when we dont see all as God can)
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Can a wicked heart be revealed by sin? The scripture says yes.
 
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OneOfHis said:
Your answer is yes?

A man "living in sin" by your definition can be saved?


That surprises me.

You have now again confused me as to why you claimed I am backwards before twisting the heart issue from how the heart reacts to sin that has happened and if a good heart can produce the same sin in multiple occasions...


I agree a horrible life is evidence of ones lack of maturity in Christ, how they feel about it could also be lack of a NEW God given heart and desire for righteousness if they call good evil and evil good.


I'd also agree one who calls good evil and evil good and LOVES sin opposed to HATES it SEEMINGLY before man does not have God working in them the same way He worked in me.



Your approach and words felt like condescending double talk...


anyways

i really do have to go



but i am confused as to where we disagree again
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I don’t know either. But I do know that actions reveal what’s inside
 
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OneOfHis said:
Your answer is yes?

A man "living in sin" by your definition can be saved?


That surprises me.

You have now again confused me as to why you claimed I am backwards before twisting the heart issue from how the heart reacts to sin that has happened and if a good heart can produce the same sin in multiple occasions...


I agree a horrible life is evidence of ones lack of maturity in Christ, how they feel about it could also be lack of a NEW God given heart and desire for righteousness if they call good evil and evil good.


I'd also agree one who calls good evil and evil good and LOVES sin opposed to HATES it SEEMINGLY before man does not have God working in them the same way He worked in me.



Your approach and words felt like condescending double talk...


anyways

i really do have to go

but i am confused as to where we disagree again
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Yup that is a familiar experience as well... appears to agree but not really agree or adds in a little caveat to the agreement.
 
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Lightskin said:
Overall you’re difficult to understand but you’re not impossible to understand.
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The question was very straightforward. I am not the one who complicated things

Dcontroversal answered it. One of His answered it. You answered it. You and they did not even had to add caveats to it

Why couldn’t people answer a straightforward question straightforwardly? That’s what I’m wondering...

The answer was «both are possibilities. «Only four letters needed.

You guys were overthinking it.

So you have yourself a blessed day
 
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Discern said:
The question was very straightforward. I am not the one who complicated things

Dcontroversal answered it. One of His answered it. You answered it. You and they did not even had to add caveats to it

Why couldn’t people answer a straightforward question straightforwardly? That’s what I’m wondering...

The answer was «both are possibilities. «Only four letters needed.

You guys were overthinking it.

So you have yourself a blessed day
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What question is that?
 
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