Not By Works

[OneOfHis]

I said habitual ONGOING sin. And I spoke of POSSIBILITIES, not certainties.

In other words, if I am a murderer, should I entertain the notion that I may not have been saved?

Have you ever once or more times posted on cc under another username or account?

 

[Discern]

Agree.... baiting?

Nope. Just bringing scripture into the question.

 

[OneOfHis]

Not yes or no except in regards to possibility. Nowhere did I say is the person saved, yes or no? I said is it possible that they were never saved

You asked me yes or no, I gave a full answer and explained why that sort of answer would be unfruitful. Then you chose to impute a yes or no to me. Then claimed it was not a yes or no. Then said what I just quoted after I quoted the conflicting remarks you've made.

 

[Discern]

Have you ever once or more times posted on cc under another username or account?

No. Perhaps the apostle John did.

 

[Discern]

You asked me yes or no, I gave a full answer and explained why that sort of answer would be unfruitful. Then you chose to impute a yes or no to me. Then claimed it was not a yes or no. Then said what I just quoted after I quoted the conflicting remarks you've made.

The original question was which are possible. Some people chaffed at the first part, so I zeroed in on it

Some did not answer the question completely, so I had to zero in on the omitted part

 

[OneOfHis]

No. Perhaps the apostle John did.

Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.

 

[Discern]

You think you're subtle?

Are you saying this is not your position?

 

[Discern]

Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.

Fair enough.

That wouldn’t be works salvation, would it? Nope. Just indicative of the condition of my heart

 

[Melach]

Ok, just making it clear. By your definitions if you have ever had a previous account on cc and didn't come forward or bring what was in darkness to light, you would be living in sin and most likely unsaved.

plot twist: it was mr. macaroni all along

 

[Discern]

plot twist: it was mr. macaroni all along

Who’s Mr. Macaroni?. I want to read his posts.

 

[LoneGirl02]

Who’s Mr. Macaroni?

I'm wondering that myself....

 

[OneOfHis]

Fair enough.

That wouldn’t be works salvation, would it? Nope. Just indicative of the condition of my heart

I disagree, if you were saved because of your actions it would indeed be works salvation.

If the difference between being justified before God is what you did before man it would no longer be grace.


My position is when we stand before God, if the blood of Jesus covers us we are saved.


His blood WILL cover ALL who have faith in Him.

 

[Discern]

I'm wondering that myself....

He’s the boogeyman.

 

[Melach]

I'm wondering that myself....

its an inside joke. we had one member called macabeus who big bro (thats dcontroversal for the uninitiated he is my brother) called macaroni.

that guy kept going on and on pages and pages about nothing digging through posts thousands of pages ago and putting them in his signature. its unbelievable really.

 

[Discern]

I disagree, if you were saved because of your actions it would indeed be works salvation.

If the difference between being justified before God is what you did before man it would no longer be grace.


My position is when we stand before God, if the blood of Jesus covers us we are saved.


His blood WILL cover ALL who have faith in Him.

Never said we are saved because of our actions. That’s Cart before horse. There is a cart and there is a horse. But one goes before the other

 

[eternally-gratefull]

No, because he was a man after Gods own heart and that fact led to his sorrow for sin and amendment of his ways.

Easy

Yet he died with multiple wives. Ie he sinned until death

 

[LoneGirl02]

its an inside joke. we had one member called macabeus who big bro (thats dcontroversal for the uninitiated he is my brother) called macaroni.

that guy kept going on and on pages and pages about nothing digging through posts thousands of pages ago and putting them in his signature. its unbelievable really.

Ohhhhh, ok! Thanks for the explanation Makes much sense now.

 

[eternally-gratefull]

I did not ask you to judge. What does the Bible say? And no, David was not lost, because the Shepherd who does not fail recovered him.

You asked me to judge if he was saved or not

 

[Discern]

Yet he died with multiple wives. Ie he sinned until death

Acts 17:30.

 

[Discern]

You asked me to judge if he was saved or not

No I didn’t. I asked you if it was possible.