YOUR ACCUSATION REEKS FROM ARMENIAN STYLE OF CHRISTIANITY, AND we are not CALVINIST.
As far as I know, there is not a genuine Calvinist on this board. OSAS, is not Calvinism, perhaps Calvinist also believe in OSAS, BUT NOT THE OTHER WAY AROUND. I only believe in three points of Calvinist, and therefore Calvinist do no consider those who believe in LESS THAN THE FULL FIVE POINTS OF CALVINISM, as outsiders. That is fine by me, I severely DISLIKE the Armenian VS. Calvinist ARGUMENT any day of the week, and as far as I am concerned, we evangelicals BURIED that argument in the early 80's. Then along comes someone like you, insisting that we need to keep digging up that rotten, smelly corpse, all over again.
Here is what evangelicals mean by OSAS,
not the LIE that Armenians keep telling that they insist we Mean by that term, and most of us on this thread attend evangelical style of Churches that TEACH
OSAS correctly.
2 Timothy 1:9 (HCSB)
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He has saved us and called us with a holy calling,
not according to our works,
but according to His own purpose and grace,
which was given to us in Christ Jesus
before time began.
Titus 3:5-7 (HCSB)
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He saved us—
not by works of righteousness that we had done, but
according to His mercy, through the washing of regeneration and renewal by the Holy Spirit.
6 He poured out this ⌊Spirit⌋ on us abundantly through Jesus Christ our Savior,
7 so that
having been justified by His grace, we may become heirs with the hope of eternal life.
Romans 4:4-5 (NET)
4 Now to the one who works,
his pay is not credited due to grace but due to obligation.
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But to the one who does not work, but believes in the one who declares the ungodly righteous, his faith is credited as righteousness.
Ephesians 2:4-5 (HCSB)
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But God, who is rich in mercy, because
of His great love that He had for us,
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made us alive with the Messiah even though we were dead in trespasses.
You are saved by grace!
Ephesians 2:8-9 (NJB)
8 Because
it is by grace that you have been saved,
through faith; not by anything of your own, but by a gift from God;
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not by anything that you have done, so that nobody can claim the credit.
Romans 5:8-11 (HCSB)
8 But
God proves His own love for us in that while we were still sinners, Christ died for us!
9 Much more then,
since we have now been declared righteous by His blood,
we will be saved through Him from wrath.
10 For if,
while we were enemies,
we were reconciled to God through the death of His Son, ⌊then how⌋ much more, having been reconciled, will we be saved by His life!
11 And not only that, but we also rejoice in God through our Lord Jesus Christ.
We have now received this reconciliation through Him.
1 Peter 1:3-5 (HCSB)
3 Praise the God and Father of our Lord Jesus Christ.
According to His great mercy, He has given us a new birth into a living hope through the resurrection of Jesus Christ from the dead
4 and into
an inheritance that is imperishable, uncorrupted, and unfading, kept in heaven for you.
5
You are being protected by God’s power through faith for a salvation that is ready to be revealed in the last time.
Romans 11:6 (NASB)
6 But if it is
by grace,
it is no longer on the basis of works,
otherwise grace is no longer grace.
Philippians 1:6 (HCSB)
6 I am sure of this, that
He who started a good work in you will carry it on to completion until the day of Christ Jesus.
2 Corinthians 3:5 (HCSB)
5 ⌊It is⌋
not that we are competent in ourselves to consider anything as coming from ourselves, but our competence is from God.
Philippians 2:13 (HCSB)
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For it is God who is working in you, ⌊enabling you⌋ both to desire and to work out His good purpose.
Ephesians 1:11-14 (HCSB)
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We have also received an inheritance in Him, predestined according to the purpose of the One who works out everything in agreement with the decision of His will,
12 so that we who had already put our hope in the Messiah might bring praise to His glory.
13
When you heard the message of truth, the gospel of your salvation, and when you believed in Him, you were also sealed with the promised Holy Spirit.
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He is the down payment of our inheritance, for the redemption of the possession, to the praise of His glory.
2 Timothy 2:19 (ESV)
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But God’s firm foundation stands, bearing this seal: “The Lord knows those who are his,” and, “Let everyone who names the name of the Lord depart from iniquity.”
John 10:27-28 (HCSB)
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My sheep hear My voice, I know them, and they follow Me.
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I give them eternal life, and they will never perish—ever! No one will snatch them out of My hand.
2 John 1:2 (HCSB)
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because of the truth that remains in us and will be with us forever.
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WE evangelicals believe OBEDIENCE is Part of AGAPE LOVE, and NEVER HAS BEEN PART OF SALVATION.
We support that idea, with these verses:
John 14:15 (NASB)
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"If you love Me, you will keep My commandments.
1 John 5:3 (HCSB)
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For this is what love for God is: to keep His commands. Now His commands are not a burden,
Only when Obedience is an act of LOVE for GOD, is it not a burden.
1 John 3:14-18 (HCSB)
14 We know that we have passed from death to life
because we love our brothers. The one who does not love remains in death.
15 Everyone who hates his brother is a murderer, and you know that no murderer has eternal life residing in him.
16 This is how we have come to know love: He laid down His life for us. We should also lay down our lives for our brothers.
17 If anyone has this world’s goods and sees his brother in need but closes his eyes to his ⌊need⌋—
how can God’s love reside in him?
18 Little children, we must not love with word or speech, but with truth and action.
