Where in the BIBLE DOES the sole have everlasting life ???????

[bud62]

From what I read to have ever lasting , YOU haft to get from JESUS .

 

[posthuman]

The same destiny overtakes all.
(Ecclesiastes 9:3)

the dust returns to the ground it came from,​

and the spirit returns to God who gave it.​

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) ​

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existence is eternal, because it derives from the Eternal One who created you.
whether we rise to eternal life or to eternal death -- as God defines life and death -- hinges on being found in Christ.

 

[blue_ladybug]

Uhh, soles don't have everlasting life. They wear out after awhile.

SOULS, however, DO have everlasting life, as long as they have been saved by faith and belief in Jesus.

 

[posthuman]

lol it's true, if you are going to spell 'have' as 'haft' then you are supposed to drop the 't' if it's followed by a word that begins with a 't'

• have to
  • correct
• haft to
  • too many t's
• haf to
  • acceptable ((colloquial))
• haff to
  • also acceptable ((colloquial))
    
    

no offense

 

[blue_ladybug]

And it's "does".. not "dose"

 

[Dino246]

And it's "does".. not "dose"

I'm so tempted to add a comment here...

 

[bud62]

The same destiny overtakes all. ​

(Ecclesiastes 9:3) ​

​

the dust returns to the ground it came from,​

and the spirit returns to God who gave it.​

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) ​

​

existence is eternal, because it derives from the Eternal One who created you.
whether we rise to eternal life or to eternal death -- as God defines life and death -- hinges on being found in Christ.

The spirit What is it according to the BIBLE ???

The same destiny overtakes all. ​

(Ecclesiastes 9:3) ​

​

the dust returns to the ground it came from,​

and the spirit returns to God who gave it.​

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) ​

​

existence is eternal, because it derives from the Eternal One who created you.
whether we rise to eternal life or to eternal death -- as God defines life and death -- hinges on being found in Christ.

I ask where In the BIBLE dose It say that the sole has everlasting life?????????? , Job say All the while My breath is in me , the spirit of GOD is in my nostrils ; Sounds like the air that we breath It is in our nostrils , Is the spirit which is our breath . Acts 2:41 Then they that gladly received his word were baptized; and the same day there were added unto them about three thousand souls . WAs this 3000 spirits or was this 3000 people ????? YOU say that the lost have everlasting life , Where in the BIBLE dose the BIBLE say the lost have immortality ???? I can tell you it DON'T !!!!!

 

[bud62]

The same destiny overtakes all. ​

(Ecclesiastes 9:3) ​

​

the dust returns to the ground it came from,​

and the spirit returns to God who gave it.​

(Ecclesiastes 12:7) ​

​

existence is eternal, because it derives from the Eternal One who created you.
whether we rise to eternal life or to eternal death -- as God defines life and death -- hinges on being found in Christ.

This is just your thoughts , I want where the BIBLE says ???

 

[posthuman]

YOU say that the lost have everlasting life

no, i do not say that.
i say the both the lost and the saved have everlasting existence

existence is not the same as life. you can exist in a state of life and you can exist in a state of death. stop thinking about existing and living as though they are equivalent. Christ came so that we might have life - what does He mean by life? does he mean your flesh being born and living 60 or 120 years? did nobody ever do that before 1 AD? or did He mean so that we can exist? did no one exist before He came?

Where in the BIBLE dose the BIBLE say the lost have immortality ???? I can tell you it DON'T !!!!!

Abraham yielded the spirit, and died in a good age, an old man, and of great years, and was gathered to his people.
(Genesis 25:8) ​

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And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred thirty and seven years, and he yielded up the spirit, and died, and was gathered unto his people.
(Genesis 25:17)


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[posthuman]

I want where the BIBLE says ???

There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.​

The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’​

But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’​

He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’​

Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’​

‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’​

He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’​

(Luke 16:19-31)​

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both this rich man and Lazarus continue to exist after their bodies return to dust. they both have eternal existence.
this beggar has life. this rich man has death.

 

[bud62]

no, i do not say that.
i say the both the lost and the saved have everlasting existence

existence is not the same as life. you can exist in a state of life and you can exist in a state of death. stop thinking about existing and living as though they are equivalent. Christ came so that we might have life - what does He mean by life? does he mean your flesh being born and living 60 or 120 years? did nobody ever do that before 1 AD? or did He mean so that we can exist? did no one exist before He came?

Abraham yielded the spirit, and died in a good age, an old man, and of great years, and was gathered to his people.​

(Genesis 25:8) ​

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And these are the years of the life of Ishmael, an hundred thirty and seven years, and he yielded up the spirit, and died, and was gathered unto his people.​

(Genesis 25:17)​

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I would to see where in the BIBLE you get that ???​

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[posthuman]

I would to see where in the BIBLE you get that ???

let's be clear that the 'that' is that just like the saved, the lost have eternal existence -- the lost do not have eternal life.
existing and having life are not the same thing.

so far, Ecclesiastes, Genesis and Luke.
how many places in the Bible do you need to see?

 

[bud62]

There was a rich man who was dressed in purple and fine linen and lived in luxury every day. At his gate was laid a beggar named Lazarus, covered with sores and longing to eat what fell from the rich man’s table. Even the dogs came and licked his sores.​

The time came when the beggar died and the angels carried him to Abraham’s side. The rich man also died and was buried. In Hades, where he was in torment, he looked up and saw Abraham far away, with Lazarus by his side. So he called to him, ‘Father Abraham, have pity on me and send Lazarus to dip the tip of his finger in water and cool my tongue, because I am in agony in this fire.’​

But Abraham replied, ‘Son, remember that in your lifetime you received your good things, while Lazarus received bad things, but now he is comforted here and you are in agony. And besides all this, between us and you a great chasm has been set in place, so that those who want to go from here to you cannot, nor can anyone cross over from there to us.’​

He answered, ‘Then I beg you, father, send Lazarus to my family, for I have five brothers. Let him warn them, so that they will not also come to this place of torment.’​

Abraham replied, ‘They have Moses and the Prophets; let them listen to them.’​

‘No, father Abraham,’ he said, ‘but if someone from the dead goes to them, they will repent.’​

He said to him, ‘If they do not listen to Moses and the Prophets, they will not be convinced even if someone rises from the dead.’​

(Luke 16:19-31)​

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both this rich man and Lazarus continue to exist after their bodies return to dust. they both have eternal existence.
this beggar has life. this rich man has death.

This is a parable & don't mean what you say to me at all , And if it ,did it would make GOD a lier , And HE is NOT !!!
Timothy 6:16 say only JESUS has immortality Who only hath immortality , dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see; to whom be honour and power everlasting , No one else has it , Even SAtan is going to be brote to ashes upon the ground , AND never will He be anymore .Gone for ever , Then there's Going to be peace ,peace, peace .

 

[Chris1975]

Luke 12

4 “And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

Bud - what do you think the above scripture means?

 

[bud62]

let's be clear that the 'that' is that just like the saved, the lost have eternal existence -- the lost do not have etlife.
existing and having life are not the same thing.

so far, Ecclesiastes, Genesis and Luke.
how many places in the Bible do you need to see?

If they have fillings ,pain ,can see , & tast . They would be alive . GOD says he will bring them to ashes upon the ground , The same as Satan .GOne for ever .

 

[blue_ladybug]

This is a parable & don't mean what you say to me at all , And if it ,did it would make GOD a lier , And HE is NOT !!!
Timothy 6:16 say only JESUS has immortality Who only hath immortality , dwelling in the light which no man can approach unto; whom no man hath seen, nor can see; to whom be honour and power everlasting , No one else has it , Even SAtan is going to be brote to ashes upon the ground , AND never will He be anymore .Gone for ever , Then there's Going to be peace ,peace, peace .

Hi Bud, those who are saved have everlasting life. Those who have faith and belief in Jesus, have had their salvation eternally secured. WE receive immortality when we die and are raised again and given a glorified, perfect eternal body. Jesus was immortal, yet also mortal when He lived on earth. WE however are mortals in a fallen world.

 

[bud62]

Luke 12

4 “And I say to you, My friends, do not be afraid of those who kill the body, and after that have no more that they can do. 5 But I will show you whom you should fear: Fear Him who, after He has killed, has power to cast into hell; yes, I say to you, fear Him!

Bud - what do you think the above scripture means?

I say that after HE has killed them once ,HE will bring them back from the dead, to punish for their sin .

 

[blue_ladybug]

For God so loved the world, He gave His one and only Son, so that whoever believes in Him shall not die but have everlasting life.

John 3:16

 

[posthuman]

This is a parable & don't mean what you say to me at all , And if it ,did it would make GOD a lier , And HE is NOT !!!

where does it say it is a parable?

even if it is - and that's a big if - in fact wouldn't a person be calling God a liar if they insisted that His parables are based in impossible fantasy instead of reality?

 

[Chris1975]

I say that after HE has killed them once ,HE will bring them back from the dead, to punish for their sin .

Luke 23
42 Then he said to Jesus, “Lord, remember me when You come into Your kingdom.”
43 And Jesus said to him, “Assuredly, I say to you, today you will be with Me in Paradise.”

Bud, this is the account of the thief on the cross. What does Jesus mean by the word "Today"? Did the thief die that day? Where did Jesus go that day? (Day number 1 of 3 in the tomb)

Let's get to the bottom of this.....